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Branman
Profile Joined March 2013
United States203 Posts
July 18 2013 03:43 GMT
#301
On July 18 2013 12:31 Bagration wrote:
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On July 18 2013 11:50 Branman wrote:
It also helps that the foreigners in this season of WCS America are far better than the invitees of last season. State, hellokitty, Capoch, Fenix, Maker, and Killer are nowhere near the level of puCK, DeMusliM, and the Chinese players.


It's unfair to lump State and Killer with players like Maker and Capoch. State and Killer both were able to beat Koreans in Bo3


Agreed. I just made a list of the invitees who dropped out.
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
July 18 2013 03:47 GMT
#302
vod links?
hellokittySC2
Profile Joined September 2009
United States395 Posts
July 18 2013 05:06 GMT
#303
On July 18 2013 11:50 Branman wrote:
It also helps that the foreigners in this season of WCS America are far better than the invitees of last season. State, hellokitty, Capoch, Fenix, Maker, and Killer are nowhere near the level of puCK, DeMusliM, and the Chinese players.

are you saying that me beating a korean makes me a shit player?
twitter.com/hellokittyhots facebook.com/hellokittysc2 hellokitty.278, http://twitch.tv/noobeater5 为中国人在星际上争气!
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 05:22:49
July 18 2013 05:20 GMT
#304
On July 18 2013 11:18 Bagration wrote:
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On July 18 2013 11:15 TheDougler wrote:
Happy for Minigun but holy smokes was that sloppy play. WCS Amateur over here. (Eh, maybe that was too harsh to be honest).


It's one of those questions that keep me up at night: Should casters point out the mistakes and criticize bad play (Khaldor-Wolf style) or should they try to focus on positives?

I mostly have a problem with caster casting a game with two lesser players (relative to the best of the world) and just take the easy road out and criticize everything they do needlessly. It would be like a professional commentator casting a game from a lower division in soccer and just keep bashing them because they are not doing things as well as Barcelona. That's not how you do it. You cast to the level of play you are seeing and you don't point out the same things in a game between two NA pros as you do in a game with two of the best Korean's playing each other. Same goes for the praise.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 18 2013 06:21 GMT
#305
YEAAAAAAAH Chadwick!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 18 2013 06:25 GMT
#306
On July 18 2013 15:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:
YEAAAAAAAH Chadwick!

Community preview so close
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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
July 18 2013 09:07 GMT
#307
Minigun got his revenge? Not bad, Chad.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 10:08:31
July 18 2013 09:45 GMT
#308
Never excpected Minigun to get out, good job
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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
July 18 2013 10:07 GMT
#309
good performance by minigun, not a high quality group thou, i think apocalypse is one of the weakest "pro" terrans next to dragon
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Sirrush
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands165 Posts
July 18 2013 10:49 GMT
#310
On July 18 2013 14:06 hellokittySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 11:50 Branman wrote:
It also helps that the foreigners in this season of WCS America are far better than the invitees of last season. State, hellokitty, Capoch, Fenix, Maker, and Killer are nowhere near the level of puCK, DeMusliM, and the Chinese players.

are you saying that me beating a korean makes me a shit player?


No, he's not saying that you're shit, he's saying that you're not at the skill level of the latter group. Beating /a/ Korean is not a measure of skill in and of itself (and that Korean completely bombed out of WCS, which IS an indication of his skill level).
Words.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
July 18 2013 12:07 GMT
#311
On July 18 2013 19:49 Sirrush wrote:
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On July 18 2013 14:06 hellokittySC2 wrote:
On July 18 2013 11:50 Branman wrote:
It also helps that the foreigners in this season of WCS America are far better than the invitees of last season. State, hellokitty, Capoch, Fenix, Maker, and Killer are nowhere near the level of puCK, DeMusliM, and the Chinese players.

are you saying that me beating a korean makes me a shit player?


No, he's not saying that you're shit, he's saying that you're not at the skill level of the latter group. Beating /a/ Korean is not a measure of skill in and of itself (and that Korean completely bombed out of WCS, which IS an indication of his skill level).

But it's not like puck or the Chinese players, or even demuslim that he mentioned have all that much results to speak of either. Seems a bit random to draw the line there.
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Sirrush
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands165 Posts
July 18 2013 15:09 GMT
#312
On July 18 2013 21:07 nihlon wrote:
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On July 18 2013 19:49 Sirrush wrote:
On July 18 2013 14:06 hellokittySC2 wrote:
On July 18 2013 11:50 Branman wrote:
It also helps that the foreigners in this season of WCS America are far better than the invitees of last season. State, hellokitty, Capoch, Fenix, Maker, and Killer are nowhere near the level of puCK, DeMusliM, and the Chinese players.

are you saying that me beating a korean makes me a shit player?


No, he's not saying that you're shit, he's saying that you're not at the skill level of the latter group. Beating /a/ Korean is not a measure of skill in and of itself (and that Korean completely bombed out of WCS, which IS an indication of his skill level).

But it's not like puck or the Chinese players, or even demuslim that he mentioned have all that much results to speak of either. Seems a bit random to draw the line there.

Puck defeated two Koreans to get into Challenger (Sage & HyuN), most of the Chinese players defeated multiple Korean in both Challenger and Premier Qualifiers and then again in their Challenger League brackets/groups, as did DeMusliM. The people on the first list were all given free passes into Premier League and then failed to retain those spots (and two of those even dropped out of Challenger), while the latter three fought their way in from the qualifiers against Premier level competition.

Not /that/ arbitrary, tbh.
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