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imareaver3
Profile Joined June 2010
United States906 Posts
July 18 2013 02:13 GMT
#281
So far, Koreans and foreigners doing equally well in WCS America! Hope it's not all lag...
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 02:15:08
July 18 2013 02:14 GMT
#282
On July 18 2013 11:13 imareaver3 wrote:
So far, Koreans and foreigners doing equally well in WCS America! Hope it's not all lag...

Scarlett beat HerO with both playing from KR on NA
Jim probably has worse lag from China than the Koreans
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TheBadOmen
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada182 Posts
July 18 2013 02:15 GMT
#283
Congratulation Minigun !
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
July 18 2013 02:15 GMT
#284
On July 18 2013 11:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 11:13 imareaver3 wrote:
So far, Koreans and foreigners doing equally well in WCS America! Hope it's not all lag...

Scarlett beat HerO with both playing from KR on NA

Yeah. Also, I think it's generally accepted that lag doesn't play a big role in KR to NA games.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
July 18 2013 02:15 GMT
#285
Happy for Minigun but holy smokes was that sloppy play. WCS Amateur over here. (Eh, maybe that was too harsh to be honest).
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 18 2013 02:16 GMT
#286
On July 18 2013 11:15 garbanzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 11:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 18 2013 11:13 imareaver3 wrote:
So far, Koreans and foreigners doing equally well in WCS America! Hope it's not all lag...

Scarlett beat HerO with both playing from KR on NA

Yeah. Also, I think it's generally accepted that lag doesn't play a big role in KR to NA games.

Several pros have said this so yea pretty much
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 18 2013 02:16 GMT
#287
Apocalypse must have been hungry tonight,

because he was eating storms like he was starving
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
July 18 2013 02:16 GMT
#288
On July 18 2013 11:15 TheDougler wrote:
Happy for Minigun but holy smokes was that sloppy play. WCS Amateur over here. (Eh, maybe that was too harsh to be honest).

I think it was more accurate than it was harsh.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 18 2013 02:18 GMT
#289
On July 18 2013 11:15 TheDougler wrote:
Happy for Minigun but holy smokes was that sloppy play. WCS Amateur over here. (Eh, maybe that was too harsh to be honest).


It's one of those questions that keep me up at night: Should casters point out the mistakes and criticize bad play (Khaldor-Wolf style) or should they try to focus on positives?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
-YoricK-
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States476 Posts
July 18 2013 02:21 GMT
#290
Minigun's stargate PvT is pretty cool to watch though, and it worked really well for him today so congrats! Still think he should stop building them lategame though, especially once they were just being rallied into death.
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
July 18 2013 02:22 GMT
#291
On July 18 2013 11:13 imareaver3 wrote:
So far, Koreans and foreigners doing equally well in WCS America! Hope it's not all lag...

WCS AM Season 1 Round of 32
11/13 Koreans Advanced (84.6%)
5/19 Foreigners Advanced (26.3%)

WCS AM Season 2 Round of 32 So Far
3/6 Koreans Advanced (50.0%)
3/6 Foreigners Advanced (50.0%)
This Week in SC2Find out what happened 'This Week in Starcraft 2': http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278126
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
July 18 2013 02:23 GMT
#292
On July 18 2013 11:18 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 11:15 TheDougler wrote:
Happy for Minigun but holy smokes was that sloppy play. WCS Amateur over here. (Eh, maybe that was too harsh to be honest).


It's one of those questions that keep me up at night: Should casters point out the mistakes and criticize bad play (Khaldor-Wolf style) or should they try to focus on positives?


Right!?! Tough to say, it kind of has to be done on a game by game basis. I mean, if its a big finals game then you gotta focus on the positives, and I suppose there's something to be said for the underdog story being better if the negatives are forgotten... That said, the lack of micro in that last game was kind of rough to watch at times especially when the casters are lauding the play so much.

I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
July 18 2013 02:24 GMT
#293
On July 18 2013 11:18 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 11:15 TheDougler wrote:
Happy for Minigun but holy smokes was that sloppy play. WCS Amateur over here. (Eh, maybe that was too harsh to be honest).


It's one of those questions that keep me up at night: Should casters point out the mistakes and criticize bad play (Khaldor-Wolf style) or should they try to focus on positives?

I think you can do both without harping on the negatives or hyping the positives. I think the latter annoys me more. Storms are rarely "good," most of the time it's bad dodging.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
July 18 2013 02:28 GMT
#294
On July 18 2013 11:24 garbanzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 11:18 Bagration wrote:
On July 18 2013 11:15 TheDougler wrote:
Happy for Minigun but holy smokes was that sloppy play. WCS Amateur over here. (Eh, maybe that was too harsh to be honest).


It's one of those questions that keep me up at night: Should casters point out the mistakes and criticize bad play (Khaldor-Wolf style) or should they try to focus on positives?

I think you can do both without harping on the negatives or hyping the positives. I think the latter annoys me more. Storms are rarely "good," most of the time it's bad dodging.

I'm of this same opinion. I'll stress the word opinion because it's just that; however, I feel that when every play is hailed as great it really lessens the wow factor of plays that are actually amazing.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 18 2013 02:28 GMT
#295
To be fair, I dont think this foreigner advancing distribution is too surprising so far. The first group I think it was more of Oz getting through rather than HerO from what people would have expected (hey I could be wrong and maybe most people thought it would be HerO + Oz but my gut feeling was HerO + Scarlett). Then in the second group it wasn't really surprising to see Jim advance over Nestea considering Jim has looked very strong in his games and him reaching #1 on KR GM. Today, while still an upset, also wasn't a complete shock imo considering how close Minigun got to beating Apocalypse last season.

Theres a guarantee for 1 more foreigner to advance with Group D having 3 foreigners + Jaedong. Next best chance is probably Demuslim over TheStC or Crank. Suppy and theognis are going to have their work cut out for them against aLive and Sage. mOOnGLaDE and XY are most likely screwed against TaeJa and Polt although it's not impossible, just unlikely. Then Top is in a group with 3 Koreans. I think we'll likely see 5 foreigners in the Ro16 (same as last season).

The 5 being: Scarlett, Jim, Minigun, Snute, and Demuslim imo
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 18 2013 02:30 GMT
#296
YEAH FOR MINIGUN, AMERICA HOLDS!!
Glorious SEA doto
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
July 18 2013 02:36 GMT
#297
On July 18 2013 11:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Theres a guarantee for 1 more foreigner to advance with Group D having 3 foreigners + Jaedong. Next best chance is probably Demuslim over TheStC or Crank. Suppy and theognis are going to have their work cut out for them against aLive and Sage. mOOnGLaDE and XY are most likely screwed against TaeJa and Polt although it's not impossible, just unlikely. Then Top is in a group with 3 Koreans. I think we'll likely see 5 foreigners in the Ro16 (same as last season).

The 5 being: Scarlett, Jim, Minigun, Snute, and Demuslim imo

Yeah, after looking at the rest of the groups, I would agree that this is likely to be the case.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Prof
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada60 Posts
July 18 2013 02:48 GMT
#298
On July 18 2013 11:15 TheDougler wrote:
Happy for Minigun but holy smokes was that sloppy play. WCS Amateur over here. (Eh, maybe that was too harsh to be honest).


I really got the impression in that last series that nerves were getting the better of both players. It was a pretty intense situation for both to be in and it looked like some of their decision making and control suffered. I've definitely seen both players play much better games than that.

But congratulations to Minigun for the big win and advancing.
Branman
Profile Joined March 2013
United States203 Posts
July 18 2013 02:50 GMT
#299
It also helps that the foreigners in this season of WCS America are far better than the invitees of last season. State, hellokitty, Capoch, Fenix, Maker, and Killer are nowhere near the level of puCK, DeMusliM, and the Chinese players.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 18 2013 03:31 GMT
#300
On July 18 2013 11:50 Branman wrote:
It also helps that the foreigners in this season of WCS America are far better than the invitees of last season. State, hellokitty, Capoch, Fenix, Maker, and Killer are nowhere near the level of puCK, DeMusliM, and the Chinese players.


It's unfair to lump State and Killer with players like Maker and Capoch. State and Killer both were able to beat Koreans in Bo3
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