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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 00:52:53
July 18 2013 00:51 GMT
#201
On July 18 2013 09:47 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 09:40 AgentW wrote:
On July 18 2013 09:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 18 2013 09:35 AgentW wrote:
On July 18 2013 09:34 BrokenMirage wrote:
Oh wow, mass phoenix/colossi. That's an interesting composition.

Is this a thing? Does anyone else do this?

On July 18 2013 09:35 Bagration wrote:
How many gates is that? That'll be a scary remax

At least 20. He added 11 or 12 earlier.

EDIT: 7 ghosts at a time! This game is weird.

Jim went phoenix colossus in his one macro PvT yesterday against Major

Missed all of Jim's games yesterday. Neeb stands no chance here, right? Mingun can basically make whatever he wants.

On July 18 2013 09:37 Mackus wrote:
This game is why no one watches the NA scene, so boring.

15k is no one? EU had 25k and has the time zone advantage.


EU maxed out on 41k today (unless my math failed me). There were six streams to be combined I think.

I was only counting the English streams, but I think that brings up an important point. How many people watch WCS EU in their native language and watch WCS AM in English? A direct comparison of the English streams wouldn't account for this.

On July 18 2013 09:50 ref4 wrote:
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On July 18 2013 09:45 AgentW wrote:
On July 18 2013 09:44 ref4 wrote:
why would you go to the ultra ultra late game vs. a protoss if your name isn't Innovation

The planetary kind of hurt him. It allowed Minigun to zone him with a single storm. He couldn't walk into the open.


not even that, but just sitting passively on your ass, not dropping and not attacking, meanwhile

the protoss gets more bases than you
the protoss gets 80 warpgates
the protoss loses 1 engagement? 2 engagements? 3 engagements? 4 engagements? No problem. Instant wrap in however many zealots his supply allows and own the Terran

I mean it doesn't make an microgram of common sense to be that passive vs. a Protoss. Ok maybe Thorzain can pull it off once in a blue moon, when the stars align and when Michael Jackson comes back from the dead.

Forgot he didn't attempt to drop him. With all of Minigun's army sitting in front of his base, some marauder drops or anything really could have been very effective. Was it out of fear of the phoenix?
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
July 18 2013 00:51 GMT
#202
On July 18 2013 09:49 MuazizTremere wrote:
My god, I normally don't watch WCS America because of timezones, but is the casting always this terrible?

There's a rotation of Bitterdam and Kibbelz/Robin. Gretorp and Frodan are doing a good portion of Challenger League as well.
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
July 18 2013 00:52 GMT
#203
On July 18 2013 09:50 ref4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 09:45 AgentW wrote:
On July 18 2013 09:44 ref4 wrote:
why would you go to the ultra ultra late game vs. a protoss if your name isn't Innovation

The planetary kind of hurt him. It allowed Minigun to zone him with a single storm. He couldn't walk into the open.


not even that, but just sitting passively on your ass, not dropping and not attacking, meanwhile

the protoss gets more bases than you
the protoss gets 80 warpgates
the protoss loses 1 engagement? 2 engagements? 3 engagements? 4 engagements? No problem. Instant wrap in however many zealots his supply allows and own the Terran

I mean it doesn't make an microgram of common sense to be that passive vs. a Protoss. Ok maybe Thorzain can pull it off once in a blue moon, when the stars align and when Michael Jackson comes back from the dead.

Didn't work against Hasuobs. T-funk got crushed on Derelict watcher playing like that.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
July 18 2013 00:54 GMT
#204
On July 18 2013 09:52 YoungTyTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 09:50 ref4 wrote:
On July 18 2013 09:45 AgentW wrote:
On July 18 2013 09:44 ref4 wrote:
why would you go to the ultra ultra late game vs. a protoss if your name isn't Innovation

The planetary kind of hurt him. It allowed Minigun to zone him with a single storm. He couldn't walk into the open.


not even that, but just sitting passively on your ass, not dropping and not attacking, meanwhile

the protoss gets more bases than you
the protoss gets 80 warpgates
the protoss loses 1 engagement? 2 engagements? 3 engagements? 4 engagements? No problem. Instant wrap in however many zealots his supply allows and own the Terran

I mean it doesn't make an microgram of common sense to be that passive vs. a Protoss. Ok maybe Thorzain can pull it off once in a blue moon, when the stars align and when Michael Jackson comes back from the dead.

Didn't work against Hasuobs. T-funk got crushed on Derelict watcher playing like that.


enforcing my point further
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
July 18 2013 00:56 GMT
#205
These casters seem to have trouble reading. I can forgive a lot but this is just getting sad.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
July 18 2013 00:57 GMT
#206
Wow Neeb had a free Nexus snipe and bottled it
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
July 18 2013 00:57 GMT
#207
On July 18 2013 09:54 ref4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 09:52 YoungTyTy wrote:
On July 18 2013 09:50 ref4 wrote:
On July 18 2013 09:45 AgentW wrote:
On July 18 2013 09:44 ref4 wrote:
why would you go to the ultra ultra late game vs. a protoss if your name isn't Innovation

The planetary kind of hurt him. It allowed Minigun to zone him with a single storm. He couldn't walk into the open.


not even that, but just sitting passively on your ass, not dropping and not attacking, meanwhile

the protoss gets more bases than you
the protoss gets 80 warpgates
the protoss loses 1 engagement? 2 engagements? 3 engagements? 4 engagements? No problem. Instant wrap in however many zealots his supply allows and own the Terran

I mean it doesn't make an microgram of common sense to be that passive vs. a Protoss. Ok maybe Thorzain can pull it off once in a blue moon, when the stars align and when Michael Jackson comes back from the dead.

Didn't work against Hasuobs. T-funk got crushed on Derelict watcher playing like that.


enforcing my point further


Well to be fair everything crushes Thorzain nowadays + Show Spoiler +
too soon? D:
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 18 2013 01:03 GMT
#208
Game 3 D: we might get a non PvT today
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 18 2013 01:04 GMT
#209
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match game 2?

Yes (1)
 
33%

No (1)
 
33%

If you have time (1)
 
33%

3 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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TL+ Member
Erraa93
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia891 Posts
July 18 2013 01:04 GMT
#210
On July 18 2013 10:03 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Game 3 D: we might get a non PvT today

Variety in game types? no way!
BlackPanther
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States872 Posts
July 18 2013 01:05 GMT
#211
On July 18 2013 09:48 NOFX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 09:38 BlackPanther wrote:
On July 18 2013 09:35 AgentW wrote:
On July 18 2013 09:34 BrokenMirage wrote:
Oh wow, mass phoenix/colossi. That's an interesting composition.

Is this a thing? Does anyone else do this?


I can't imagine this being a very good composition. I don't like Phoenixes as a late game unit, especially when Protoss have better siege units like that the Tempest.


Yes it is, and it's freaking strong.


The problem with collosi phoenix is that it doesn't exploit Terran production like collosi, archon, templar. If you make phoenix collosi, all I need to do as Terran is make lots of vikings. If you do collosi archon templar, I now need to balance my army composition between ghost and vikings and too much of either and not enough of the other can be easily exploited by the protoss.

Phoenixes don't do enough damage to vikings to make them worthwhile in the composition. The vikings can just focus down the collosi and then land to avoid the phoenix fire.

-YoricK-
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States476 Posts
July 18 2013 01:13 GMT
#212
Minigun you sexy beast.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 18 2013 01:14 GMT
#213
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match game 3?

Yes (2)
 
50%

No (1)
 
25%

If you have time (1)
 
25%

4 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 18 2013 01:14 GMT
#214
On July 18 2013 10:04 Erraa93 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 10:03 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Game 3 D: we might get a non PvT today

Variety in game types? no way!

variety denied
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
July 18 2013 01:14 GMT
#215
Ouch, Neeb.
JSon
Profile Joined February 2012
United States56 Posts
July 18 2013 01:14 GMT
#216
Wow Minigun just walked over Neeb
aznheat80
Profile Joined August 2010
United States186 Posts
July 18 2013 01:14 GMT
#217
lol destroyed
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
July 18 2013 01:14 GMT
#218
Alright I've seen this one already. g'night
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Prevolved
Profile Joined March 2011
United States573 Posts
July 18 2013 01:15 GMT
#219
well that's probably one of the worst ways to get knocked out
Know thyself.
Erraa93
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia891 Posts
July 18 2013 01:15 GMT
#220
On July 18 2013 10:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 10:04 Erraa93 wrote:
On July 18 2013 10:03 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Game 3 D: we might get a non PvT today

Variety in game types? no way!

variety denied


TvT denied!
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