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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 11 2013 11:15 GMT
#981
On July 11 2013 20:14 Lorning wrote:
hehe silly Choya, get out of that boot

Oh god now I can't not see choya in hyvaa. Hyvaa is just the zerg choya.
Glorious SEA doto
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 11 2013 11:15 GMT
#982
This thread is a mindfield filled with posts waiting to be set off.
Moderatorlickypiddy
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
July 11 2013 11:15 GMT
#983
On July 11 2013 20:11 YyapSsap wrote:
You can't really do anything about the coin flippy nature of SC2 due to the overwhelming reliance on "composition" as there are far too many specialist/counter units. That push only worked because of the 2 banshees and no AA after the initial engagement (this also adds to the coin flippyness due to how air units in SC2 play a far larger role starting from the early game compared to BW).

For all you Flash fans, theres always next season!


There's no denying Bomber and Inno outplayed Flash.

But watching at TvT as an observer, I feel there is something listless and unexciting about the MU lately. Like you, I feel it's a little corn-flippy, and everything boils down to build orders and composition. Yes, there may be more "strategic" element to this, but it just feels like a more complicated rock-scissors-paper MU.

I can't explain it any better, I'm afraid. It's just a feel.
gg no re thx
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 11:16:05
July 11 2013 11:15 GMT
#984
[OSL] RO16 Day 4 WCS KR S2 2013
[image loading] (T)FanTaSy vs [image loading] (Z)hyvaa
Game 1
Map: Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct

0:00
FanTaSy spawns in the bottom right
hyvaa spawns in the bottom left

6 POOOLLLLLLLL
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 11 2013 11:15 GMT
#985
OH SURPRISE SURPRISE

please win Fanta..
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 11 2013 11:15 GMT
#986
On July 11 2013 20:14 Lunareste wrote:
I'm disappointed about Flash too guys, but the fact is that Flash threw away a large portion of his army right before Bomber's attack and he was not prepared in time for the composition that Bomber had.

Imagine Flash had his BFH and some Widow Mines when that attack hit...it would have been a massacre


The fact that Bomber was still slightly ahead in supply after Flash traded a bunch of his hellions for a bunch of Bomber's SCVs told me that Bomber's attack would probably kill Flash.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 11 2013 11:15 GMT
#987
and typical hyvaa...
Moderatorlickypiddy
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
July 11 2013 11:15 GMT
#988
LOL... Hyvaa
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
July 11 2013 11:15 GMT
#989
6 pool, what a shock
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
July 11 2013 11:15 GMT
#990
Argl... 6 pool... shit idea...
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#991
Never change Hyvaa
Rammstorm
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1434 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#992
On July 11 2013 20:04 DustbinBieber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 20:00 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:59 DustbinBieber wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:57 29 fps wrote:
why do English casters keep saying some people are "supposed" to lose?? it's starting to become annoying


because it's true.


I think he is talking about the situation when you have Bomber vs. Flash and people say Bomber is supposed to lose because Flash is allegedly a superior player..


Flash is a superior player and Bomber was supposed to lose. He won with two weird-ass tactics because of his straight-up inferiority. That's SC2 for you.


Totally agree.
For some reason people identify with eSF as if they were foreigners, lol.
"MC" -> Master of Ceremonies xD
jimothyjim
Profile Joined August 2011
Great Britain836 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#993
That hyvaa....
Go Hyvaa, Hyun, Maru, DRG, NaNiwa, MaNa, Genius, Dimaga, Scarlett, Soulkey, First! Elfi is God.
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#994
Hahaha, that's our Hyvaa
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#995
On July 11 2013 20:14 Lunareste wrote:
I'm disappointed about Flash too guys, but the fact is that Flash threw away a large portion of his army right before Bomber's attack and he was not prepared in time for the composition that Bomber had.

Imagine Flash had his BFH and some Widow Mines when that attack hit...it would have been a massacre

Sorry but "if" games don't work.If he didn't do that attack Bomber wasn't forced to counter it since he wouldn't have lost 20+ SCV's. From that point we simply don't know how it would have gone.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#996
Has Hyvaa played a macro game in his life? Sweet mother.
Refer to my post.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#997
On July 11 2013 20:13 BackSideAttack wrote:
Because maybe there's more matchups in the game than just tvt? For every game that Bomber takes off Flash, there's a game where he loses to goswser by refusing to split his bio against banes. Bomber played better today and maybe his tvt is comparable to flash, but if you take into account all the matchups, he's not the better player as many people in this thread are implying.

Lol, he lost that game because he nuked his own army, and won the rest of the series anyway, even granting us a Pimpest play.
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#998
I would imagine Fantasy has watched Hyvaa replays heh
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#999
6 pooluuu
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#1000
On July 11 2013 20:08 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 20:06 Wintex wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:03 BackSideAttack wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:00 TeeTS wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:58 BackSideAttack wrote:
..............i hate bomber so much right now...why couldn't he have just played standard and lose mechanically to flash


I don't see a big mechanically difference between Bomber and Flash (in SC2!). Bomber never loses to bad mechanics, he allways bombs out with really weird decisions and strategies, when he does lose.
GG Bomber, very happy for him


Uhh there's a huge mechanical difference between the 2. Bomber is one of the worst micro terrans in sc2 right now, while flash is one of the best. There's a reason why Bomber plays turtle mech style in tvz- he has some of the worst splitting i've ever seen. There's also a clear difference between the 2's ability to multitask. When bomber drops he just shift clicks and doesn't pay attention. Flash actually microes all his individual drops similar to innovation.

Although I'm not supposed to say anything, I kinda have to give my neutral answer to this.

You are wrong.

SAY WHAT !?

You are just a sad Mvp fan who can't deal with the fact that DRG is just terrible nowadays.

lolololol

Shows how much you know.

On July 11 2013 20:08 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 20:04 DustbinBieber wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:00 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:59 DustbinBieber wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:57 29 fps wrote:
why do English casters keep saying some people are "supposed" to lose?? it's starting to become annoying


because it's true.


I think he is talking about the situation when you have Bomber vs. Flash and people say Bomber is supposed to lose because Flash is allegedly a superior player..


Flash is a superior player and Bomber was supposed to lose. He won with two weird-ass tactics because of his straight-up inferiority. That's SC2 for you.

You are dumb, people underrated Bomber, this isn't nearly as big of an upset as people think... If you looked at Bomber vs BByong and then Bbyong vs Innovation you could clearly see Bomber's TvT is on the same level as those guys.

Also, it's a strategy game. If you completely out strategize your opponent, how does that not make you superior to them? Bomber gameplan >>>>>>> Flash gameplan.


This so much. People hate that strategy wins in a real-time strategy game, hilarious. And yeah Bomber did show great games vs. Bbyong too.

I can't stop laughing at the "sad MVP fan" post.

lol Hyvaa going 6pool? I can't believe people are still doing this honestly...
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