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jekku
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1640 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#1001
Surprise surprise hyvaa 6 pooling.
In the rear with the gear!
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#1002
HYYYYYYYYYyvvvvvvvaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa >_>
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#1003
On July 11 2013 20:11 YyapSsap wrote:
You can't really do anything about the coin flippy nature of SC2 due to the overwhelming reliance on "composition" as there are far too many specialist/counter units. That push only worked because of the 2 banshees and no AA after the initial engagement (this also adds to the coin flippyness due to how air units in SC2 play a far larger role starting from the early game compared to BW).

For all you Flash fans, theres always next season!


those games had nothing to do with coin flips. Flash overcomitted to his blueflame harass and lost like 10 Hellions. Bomber kept nearly all of his harassment units alive through the course of the game. Bomber did opt for a better midgame unit composition. This is not coinflip, this is understanding of the matchup. Bomber outplayed Flash in every way in both games. No coinflip involved here.
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#1004
On July 11 2013 20:15 s3rp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 20:14 YyapSsap wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:12 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:11 YyapSsap wrote:
You can't really do anything about the coin flippy nature of SC2 due to the overwhelming reliance on "composition" as there are far too many specialist/counter units. That push only worked because of the 2 banshees and no AA after the initial engagement (this also adds to the coin flippyness due to how air units in SC2 play a far larger role starting from the early game compared to BW).

For all you Flash fans, theres always next season!

It's not randomness when Flash didn't scout well enough to realize what was going on.


Thats thing thing. Scouting is 200% more important than it was in BW because if you dont get a specific composition you lose out. In SC2, your just going to flat out die/punished severly most of the time if you have the wrong units.


But isn't that a good thing ?


Depends on how you look at it. Some people prefer seeing mechanics shine, others want to see strategy prevail. It's a real time strategy game and its up to personal preference. I personally want to see mechanics shine.
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#1005
hyvaa does all ins, cheese quiet often :/
@taefoxy
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#1006
Guys... I'm a pretty big Flash fan...

He played like shit. Bomber and Innovation both played very well, especially compared to Flash. The game didn't make Flash pick 4 really weird, rigid, weak strategies in a row, and play like a bronze noob in game 2 against Innovation. Stop complaining and just support the guy anyway. It's a slump... not the end of all things SC2.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#1007
6poll?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#1008
hyvaa continues with his 200 cheeses streak -_-
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#1009
On July 11 2013 20:16 Rammstorm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 20:04 DustbinBieber wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:00 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:59 DustbinBieber wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:57 29 fps wrote:
why do English casters keep saying some people are "supposed" to lose?? it's starting to become annoying


because it's true.


I think he is talking about the situation when you have Bomber vs. Flash and people say Bomber is supposed to lose because Flash is allegedly a superior player..


Flash is a superior player and Bomber was supposed to lose. He won with two weird-ass tactics because of his straight-up inferiority. That's SC2 for you.


Totally agree.
For some reason people identify with eSF as if they were foreigners, lol.

What is that even supposed to mean.
Glorious SEA doto
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#1010
On July 11 2013 20:15 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 20:14 Lorning wrote:
hehe silly Choya, get out of that boot

Oh god now I can't not see choya in hyvaa. Hyvaa is just the zerg choya.


sixpooling... Its Choya alright
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9047 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#1011
ActionJesuz has come back in the form of hyvaa.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#1012
On July 11 2013 20:15 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 20:14 Lorning wrote:
hehe silly Choya, get out of that boot

Oh god now I can't not see choya in hyvaa. Hyvaa is just the zerg choya.


Yeah I made this comparison the very first time I saw hyvaa. The fact that hyvaa also turned out to be very cheesy just makes the comparison even funnier xD
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16846 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#1013
On July 11 2013 20:13 BackSideAttack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 20:08 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:04 DustbinBieber wrote:
On July 11 2013 20:00 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:59 DustbinBieber wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:57 29 fps wrote:
why do English casters keep saying some people are "supposed" to lose?? it's starting to become annoying


because it's true.


I think he is talking about the situation when you have Bomber vs. Flash and people say Bomber is supposed to lose because Flash is allegedly a superior player..


Flash is a superior player and Bomber was supposed to lose. He won with two weird-ass tactics because of his straight-up inferiority. That's SC2 for you.

You are dumb, people underrated Bomber, this isn't nearly as big of an upset as people think... If you looked at Bomber vs BByong and then Bbyong vs Innovation you could clearly see Bomber's TvT is on the same level as those guys.

Also, it's a strategy game. If you completely out strategize your opponent, how does that not make you superior to them? Bomber gameplan >>>>>>> Flash gameplan.


Because maybe there's more matchups in the game than just tvt? For every game that Bomber takes off Flash, there's a game where he loses to goswser by refusing to split his bio against banes. Bomber played better today and maybe his tvt is comparable to flash, but if you take into account all the matchups, he's not the better player as many people in this thread are implying.


losing those matches says nothing about him besides his confidence. just fold, please. I'm not a fan of the player cause Commander Keen is 10 times better except when hellbats were sugoyooo~~~, but damn it all to hell.
The Bomber boy
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
July 11 2013 11:16 GMT
#1014
2 drones on minerals left, lol :D
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
July 11 2013 11:17 GMT
#1015
hyvaa is like the korean fuzer
Terran & Potato Salad.
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
July 11 2013 11:17 GMT
#1016
LOL MIND GAMES SON
KT FlaSh FOREVER
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
July 11 2013 11:17 GMT
#1017
LMAO, GG
Refer to my post.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13425 Posts
July 11 2013 11:17 GMT
#1018
LOL.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
July 11 2013 11:17 GMT
#1019
LOL, hyvaaaaaaaaa
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9174 Posts
July 11 2013 11:17 GMT
#1020
rofl hyvaa...
Yhamm is the god of predictions
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