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Chobra
131 Posts
July 04 2013 13:05 GMT
#1661
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
July 04 2013 13:05 GMT
#1662
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Vanadiel
France961 Posts
July 04 2013 13:06 GMT
#1663
On July 04 2013 22:01 Wingblade wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2013 22:00 Yello wrote: On July 04 2013 21:57 Nebuchad wrote: On July 04 2013 21:52 artrea wrote: maru has got to be massively behind after not doing much with his HBs Yeah, think again. It's kinda like DTs or Oracles, you can fail with two or three attempts but that doesn't matter if the 4th attempt kills 15 workers. Also awful engagement by Trap, he let Maru get a really good concave the way he pushed down that ramp. And too high on the Zealot-count, Maru had way too many Hellbats for that No, no actually its nothing like DTs or Oracles, because 1 turret instantly invalidates all of those. The same cannot be said for hellbat drops. This. And the fact that Hellbat are only mineral units, you get happy when you kill an hellbat drop without loosing too much, you might think your azhead because hellbat are scary, but in the end you've only killed 200 minerals worth of unit, like only 4 marine. ^^ | ||
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
July 04 2013 13:06 GMT
#1664
On July 04 2013 22:05 Chobra wrote: VODs by match will be up in a few hours on twitch.tv/wcs_osl/videos with 480p free, HD subs. full broadcast videos will be enabled earlier if you want to scan through on your own. Rebroadcast in 3 hours (6pm CET) and 12 hours (6pm PST) Thanks for watching WCS KR guys! 감사합니다! You guys are doing great! | ||
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Wingblade
United States1806 Posts
July 04 2013 13:09 GMT
#1665
On July 04 2013 22:06 Vanadiel wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2013 22:01 Wingblade wrote: On July 04 2013 22:00 Yello wrote: On July 04 2013 21:57 Nebuchad wrote: On July 04 2013 21:52 artrea wrote: maru has got to be massively behind after not doing much with his HBs Yeah, think again. It's kinda like DTs or Oracles, you can fail with two or three attempts but that doesn't matter if the 4th attempt kills 15 workers. Also awful engagement by Trap, he let Maru get a really good concave the way he pushed down that ramp. And too high on the Zealot-count, Maru had way too many Hellbats for that No, no actually its nothing like DTs or Oracles, because 1 turret instantly invalidates all of those. The same cannot be said for hellbat drops. This. And the fact that Hellbat are only mineral units, you get happy when you kill an hellbat drop without loosing too much, you might think your azhead because hellbat are scary, but in the end you've only killed 200 minerals worth of unit, like only 4 marine. ^^ Yep, if you kill 2 DTs without taking economic damage thats 250/250, plus the cost of the dark shrine which isn't always needed. Armories are usually needed to move into additional upgrades, and losing 2 hellbats for no probes is almost worth the lost mining time. | ||
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
July 04 2013 13:10 GMT
#1666
On July 04 2013 22:04 Wingblade wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2013 22:03 Qwerty85 wrote: On July 04 2013 22:01 Wingblade wrote: On July 04 2013 22:00 Yello wrote: On July 04 2013 21:57 Nebuchad wrote: On July 04 2013 21:52 artrea wrote: maru has got to be massively behind after not doing much with his HBs Yeah, think again. It's kinda like DTs or Oracles, you can fail with two or three attempts but that doesn't matter if the 4th attempt kills 15 workers. Also awful engagement by Trap, he let Maru get a really good concave the way he pushed down that ramp. And too high on the Zealot-count, Maru had way too many Hellbats for that No, no actually its nothing like DTs or Oracles, because 1 turret instantly invalidates all of those. The same cannot be said for hellbat drops. Lol what, you just saw in game 1 that DT drops while terran is on the map do a lot of damage... Turret doesn't help if there is no army to kill the DT Because there were no turrets anywhere... And between turrets and scans, and the reapers that missed the DTs, a lot of things had to go wrong for that to work. The hellbats were prepared for, and still killed more workers than the DTs that werent prepared for. Read again. I was talking about using DTs throughout the game to do damage when terran moves out. This season of GSL had a couple of games like that when terran would get backstabbed by protoss while trying to exploit that famous "mid game advantage". I even remember Artosis talking about it, but I am not sure which game it was. It is a playstyle protoss players should do more often. And there was a discussion here about late game protoss harass and how it can actually be better than terran harras. | ||
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xsnac
Barbados1365 Posts
July 04 2013 13:10 GMT
#1667
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Jindo
United States1305 Posts
July 04 2013 13:13 GMT
#1668
On July 04 2013 22:05 Chobra wrote: VODs by match will be up in a few hours on twitch.tv/wcs_osl/videos with 480p free, HD subs. full broadcast videos will be enabled earlier if you want to scan through on your own. Rebroadcast in 3 hours (6pm CET) and 12 hours (6pm PST) Thanks for watching WCS KR guys! Is there a reason why OGN doesn't implement paywall for VODs like GOM does? | ||
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evaniss
53 Posts
July 04 2013 13:14 GMT
#1669
On July 04 2013 22:05 Chobra wrote: VODs by match will be up in a few hours on twitch.tv/wcs_osl/videos with 480p free, HD subs. full broadcast videos will be enabled earlier if you want to scan through on your own. Rebroadcast in 3 hours (6pm CET) and 12 hours (6pm PST) Thanks for watching WCS KR guys! Good job, chobra~! i want see you in the screen | ||
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Rhaegal
United States678 Posts
July 04 2013 13:15 GMT
#1670
Are you fucking serious? What the fuck does that even mean? | ||
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Carefree
United States1571 Posts
July 04 2013 13:16 GMT
#1671
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evaniss
53 Posts
July 04 2013 13:19 GMT
#1672
On July 04 2013 22:13 Jindo wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2013 22:05 Chobra wrote: VODs by match will be up in a few hours on twitch.tv/wcs_osl/videos with 480p free, HD subs. full broadcast videos will be enabled earlier if you want to scan through on your own. Rebroadcast in 3 hours (6pm CET) and 12 hours (6pm PST) Thanks for watching WCS KR guys! Is there a reason why OGN doesn't implement paywall for VODs like GOM does? i think OGN's the main income markets is Korean viewers so they don't have many greedy to income from english stream IMO | ||
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Wingblade
United States1806 Posts
July 04 2013 13:20 GMT
#1673
On July 04 2013 22:10 Qwerty85 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2013 22:04 Wingblade wrote: On July 04 2013 22:03 Qwerty85 wrote: On July 04 2013 22:01 Wingblade wrote: On July 04 2013 22:00 Yello wrote: On July 04 2013 21:57 Nebuchad wrote: On July 04 2013 21:52 artrea wrote: maru has got to be massively behind after not doing much with his HBs Yeah, think again. It's kinda like DTs or Oracles, you can fail with two or three attempts but that doesn't matter if the 4th attempt kills 15 workers. Also awful engagement by Trap, he let Maru get a really good concave the way he pushed down that ramp. And too high on the Zealot-count, Maru had way too many Hellbats for that No, no actually its nothing like DTs or Oracles, because 1 turret instantly invalidates all of those. The same cannot be said for hellbat drops. Lol what, you just saw in game 1 that DT drops while terran is on the map do a lot of damage... Turret doesn't help if there is no army to kill the DT Because there were no turrets anywhere... And between turrets and scans, and the reapers that missed the DTs, a lot of things had to go wrong for that to work. The hellbats were prepared for, and still killed more workers than the DTs that werent prepared for. Read again. I was talking about using DTs throughout the game to do damage when terran moves out. This season of GSL had a couple of games like that when terran would get backstabbed by protoss while trying to exploit that famous "mid game advantage". I even remember Artosis talking about it, but I am not sure which game it was. It is a playstyle protoss players should do more often. And there was a discussion here about late game protoss harass and how it can actually be better than terran harras. Every time I warp in 2 DTs to counter harass, that's a delayed charge or blink, one or two less HT, later robo bay, later upgrades, etc. I wonder how hard it would be to use your rallied barracks units plus a turret to deny a DT counterattack. And sure lategame Protoss warp in harass is great, unless there's a planetary fortress, or a turret ring in the main, or a bunker. By the way, don't tell me to "read again" when your original post is ambiguous to how they are being used. Less condescension, more respect please. You made an unspecific post, then implied as if I didn't read your statement before correcting the statement to what you "thought" I missed, but what actually wasn't in your post at all. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
July 04 2013 13:20 GMT
#1674
On July 04 2013 22:15 Rhaegal wrote: Ok, So I looked at all the results besides Flash vs Innovation, because it's the match I want to watch. I see Maru beat Trap, disappointing because I'm a KeSPA fanboy. So I ctrl + f "esf" to see what is being said without being spoiled and the first thing I see is: "ESF Flash good job!" Are you fucking serious? What the fuck does that even mean? why the hell are you so mad wtf lol | ||
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Vanadiel
France961 Posts
July 04 2013 13:20 GMT
#1675
On July 04 2013 22:15 Rhaegal wrote: Ok, So I looked at all the results besides Flash vs Innovation, because it's the match I want to watch. I see Maru beat Trap, disappointing because I'm a KeSPA fanboy. So I ctrl + f "esf" to see what is being said without being spoiled and the first thing I see is: "ESF Flash good job!" Are you fucking serious? What the fuck does that even mean? EG.Flash is coming. | ||
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Rhaegal
United States678 Posts
July 04 2013 13:21 GMT
#1676
On July 04 2013 22:20 opterown wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2013 22:15 Rhaegal wrote: Ok, So I looked at all the results besides Flash vs Innovation, because it's the match I want to watch. I see Maru beat Trap, disappointing because I'm a KeSPA fanboy. So I ctrl + f "esf" to see what is being said without being spoiled and the first thing I see is: "ESF Flash good job!" Are you fucking serious? What the fuck does that even mean? why the hell are you so mad wtf lol just my luck I guess. Of all the things I could see with "esf" I get a spoiler in broken English. Oh well. I know Flash won now, still going to watch the games. edit: haha, wtf?! he got absolutely stomped... awesome! | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
July 04 2013 13:22 GMT
#1677
On July 04 2013 22:20 Vanadiel wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2013 22:15 Rhaegal wrote: Ok, So I looked at all the results besides Flash vs Innovation, because it's the match I want to watch. I see Maru beat Trap, disappointing because I'm a KeSPA fanboy. So I ctrl + f "esf" to see what is being said without being spoiled and the first thing I see is: "ESF Flash good job!" Are you fucking serious? What the fuck does that even mean? EG.Flash is coming. IM need a successor for Mvp | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
July 04 2013 13:22 GMT
#1678
On July 04 2013 22:21 Rhaegal wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2013 22:20 opterown wrote: On July 04 2013 22:15 Rhaegal wrote: Ok, So I looked at all the results besides Flash vs Innovation, because it's the match I want to watch. I see Maru beat Trap, disappointing because I'm a KeSPA fanboy. So I ctrl + f "esf" to see what is being said without being spoiled and the first thing I see is: "ESF Flash good job!" Are you fucking serious? What the fuck does that even mean? why the hell are you so mad wtf lol just my luck I guess. Of all the things I could see with "esf" I get a spoiler in broken English. Oh well. I know Flash won now, still going to watch the games. Oh no, ESF.Flash is someone refer to Maru because his cheesy play. | ||
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nimdil
Poland3751 Posts
July 04 2013 13:22 GMT
#1679
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Rhaegal
United States678 Posts
July 04 2013 13:24 GMT
#1680
On July 04 2013 22:22 nimdil wrote: So far eSF 4:1 KeSPA in Round of 16 ![]() Let's see how they do in the finals ![]() | ||
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