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On July 04 2013 09:46 Rhaegal wrote:Innovation said he likes hellbat play, as did Select. I think that the faster player with the better multitasking is vastly rewarded in the TvT early game. People bitch about hellbats, but I think TvT skillcap is even higher than it was in wings. I mean, if Hellbats are so easy to use why aren't Flash and Innovation losing to scrub Terrans? TvT isn't wings PvP-- the better player still wins TvT more than any other matchup, imo.
That's nice.
But there will be hellbats. :p
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Why are there no maps in the OP? They're on liquipedia.
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On July 04 2013 10:23 Dodgin wrote:
Why are there no maps in the OP? They're on liquipedia.
yeah, OP should be updated according to liquipedia.
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On July 04 2013 09:46 Rhaegal wrote:Innovation said he likes hellbat play, as did Select. I think that the faster player with the better multitasking is vastly rewarded in the TvT early game. People bitch about hellbats, but I think TvT skillcap is even higher than it was in wings. I mean, if Hellbats are so easy to use why aren't Flash and Innovation losing to scrub Terrans? TvT isn't wings PvP-- the better player still wins TvT more than any other matchup, imo.
Yes, the player with higher HPM , which has unlimited skill cap, usually win.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Might as well cheer on soO and hyvaa lololol
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On July 04 2013 04:15 jinorazi wrote:
so stacked :/
Damn this is such a good day of OSL!
PartinG, Flash, Innovation, and Rain all in the same night!? Those four could be a group of death if in the same group. So we'll get to see a top player in pretty much every match, and Trap vs. Maru, though not the same calibur, is not too shabby neither! So epic!
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 04 2013 11:54 Jmanthedragonguy wrote:Damn this is such a good day of OSL! PartinG, Flash, Innovation, and Rain all in the same night!? Those four could be a group of death if in the same group. So we'll get to see a top player in pretty much every match, and Trap vs. Maru, though not the same calibur, is not too shabby neither! So epic!
Trap vs Maru might end up being the most interesting match of the day, I think. Maru plays funny and aggressive while Trap has used very nice build orders to surprise everyone with his advancement. Players with distinct styles usually make for unique games. Rain and Parting should crush hyvaa and soO or else the internet explodes. Innovation vs Flash might be good but if it's just helldrop into gg.. what a waste of all that talent.
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Yeah how can you not want to watch flash verse innovation? The only thing I dont like is watching hellbats replace the strategic marine tank game, but I guess the super medivacs also kind of lowered the importance of controlling area since you just doom drop their base. I still like tvt though just because it seems more rare now
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Once a TvT gets past the hellbat stage it usually settles and has potential to be a good game. It's really only that stage that is bad to watch, especially after the nth time. Hopefully they both defend well and it ends up going long.
I'm not a Bomber fan but I loved his games vs Bbyong: "fuck hellbats I'm going bio". Dude's a boss and I'm going to have to make him my Startale exception.
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On July 04 2013 12:23 lichter wrote:
Once a TvT gets past the hellbat stage it usually settles and has potential to be a good game. It's really only that stage that is bad to watch, especially after the nth time. Hopefully they both defend well and it ends up going long.
I'm not a Bomber fan but I loved his games vs Bbyong: "fuck hellbats I'm going bio". Dude's a boss and I'm going to have to make him my Startale exception.
You enjoyed Innovation and Flash's cheesefest Ro16 GSL?
I didnt :<
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Flash vs Innovation? Oh my!
It's been a long couple of days recently, but I'll have to stay up for these ones.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 04 2013 12:27 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 12:23 lichter wrote:
Once a TvT gets past the hellbat stage it usually settles and has potential to be a good game. It's really only that stage that is bad to watch, especially after the nth time. Hopefully they both defend well and it ends up going long.
I'm not a Bomber fan but I loved his games vs Bbyong: "fuck hellbats I'm going bio". Dude's a boss and I'm going to have to make him my Startale exception. You enjoyed Innovation and Flash's cheesefest Ro16 GSL? I didnt :<
It was a pretty lousy group of death in terms of game quality, yeah. The best players don't usually make the best games.
Hack vs B4 earlier today was one of the most exciting and action packed games of the year, and they are only trying to qualify for WCS AM.
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maru #primefaith #ibelieve #nevergiveup
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This is one seriously insane OSL day. Flash, Innovation, and Rain in particular. What in the balls, man.
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On July 04 2013 12:02 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 11:54 Jmanthedragonguy wrote:On July 04 2013 04:15 jinorazi wrote:
so stacked :/ Damn this is such a good day of OSL! PartinG, Flash, Innovation, and Rain all in the same night!? Those four could be a group of death if in the same group. So we'll get to see a top player in pretty much every match, and Trap vs. Maru, though not the same calibur, is not too shabby neither! So epic! Trap vs Maru might end up being the most interesting match of the day, I think. Maru plays funny and aggressive while Trap has used very nice build orders to surprise everyone with his advancement. Players with distinct styles usually make for unique games. Rain and Parting should crush hyvaa and soO or else the internet explodes. Innovation vs Flash might be good but if it's just helldrop into gg.. what a waste of all that talent.
Quite true indeed. I'm thinking Trap will be a total blackhorse this season and suprise alot of people. As for the rest of the matches, I'm hoping their are no upsets. I got a funny feeling Flash will beat Innovation 2-1 though, as he is really good with match preparation, and Innovation is pretty predictable.
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Flash is the one true God. #IBELIEVE
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 04 2013 13:27 Jmanthedragonguy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2013 12:02 lichter wrote:On July 04 2013 11:54 Jmanthedragonguy wrote:On July 04 2013 04:15 jinorazi wrote:
so stacked :/ Damn this is such a good day of OSL! PartinG, Flash, Innovation, and Rain all in the same night!? Those four could be a group of death if in the same group. So we'll get to see a top player in pretty much every match, and Trap vs. Maru, though not the same calibur, is not too shabby neither! So epic! Trap vs Maru might end up being the most interesting match of the day, I think. Maru plays funny and aggressive while Trap has used very nice build orders to surprise everyone with his advancement. Players with distinct styles usually make for unique games. Rain and Parting should crush hyvaa and soO or else the internet explodes. Innovation vs Flash might be good but if it's just helldrop into gg.. what a waste of all that talent. Quite true indeed. I'm thinking Trap will be a total blackhorse this season and suprise alot of people. As for the rest of the matches, I'm hoping their are no upsets. I got a funny feeling Flash will beat Innovation 2-1 though, as he is really good with match preparation, and Innovation is pretty predictable.
There was a time a few months back where Trap was pretty bad, because he was playing standard games and trying to out micro/macro his opponents. The past few weeks have shown that this isn't Trap's strength; his strength is in preparation and performing specific build orders. With OSL's format, he should get past the Ro16. I don't think he is a strong enough player overall to win it in a long series, but he will certainly give anyone he meets a good challenge.
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