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[OSL] RO16 Day 1 WCS Korea Season 2 2013 - Page 85

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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
July 02 2013 12:09 GMT
#1681
On July 02 2013 21:08 Die4Ever wrote:
I miss Code A finals


Good times
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
July 02 2013 12:09 GMT
#1682
On July 02 2013 20:52 Brian333 wrote:
Wait, can Hellbats get inside a bunker? If not, then why? They're a bio unit.

They aren't really a bio unit, just for healing purposes. They are robotic, and don't have the flexibility to get inside, aim out a small window etc.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 02 2013 12:09 GMT
#1683
I have fond memories of DRG utterly annihilating losira back in the king of kong tournament, and back when drg's mechanics were better then everyone elses by a pretty huge margin. Oh how you've fallen sweet prince
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
July 02 2013 12:09 GMT
#1684
It's good to see these guys being still consistently good.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
July 02 2013 12:09 GMT
#1685
On July 02 2013 21:08 Wintex wrote:
In my eyes,they are playing for 1st. I don't think maru or trap can rise above them.

Hmm, I think the group's KangHo's to lose, but the second spot is completely open for contest.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
July 02 2013 12:09 GMT
#1686
On July 02 2013 21:08 Die4Ever wrote:
I miss Code A finals


Have a vague memory of them often being better than their Code S counterpart.
The curse is real
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16848 Posts
July 02 2013 12:09 GMT
#1687
On July 02 2013 21:06 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 21:05 govie wrote:
a biased OP

+ Show Spoiler +
(T)Bomber wins 2-1!




Faking Wintex aren't LR OPs supposed to be 100% no bias? ^^

It's not biased. It's themed after a player in the groups. Like bisu centered OPs. <3 (I'm such a bullshitter)
The Bomber boy
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 02 2013 12:09 GMT
#1688
On July 02 2013 21:01 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 20:59 TheDwf wrote:
On July 02 2013 20:57 bo1b wrote:
On July 02 2013 20:55 NarutO wrote:
On July 02 2013 20:54 bo1b wrote:
On July 02 2013 20:53 TheDwf wrote:
On July 02 2013 20:52 Qikz wrote:
On July 02 2013 20:51 Caihead wrote:
Fantasy what happened.


Bio happened. I seem to remember the same thing happening in BW until he gave up on Bio in TvZ and just made mech work for himself.

His bio control compared to everyone else is really far down.

Hellbat drops with no damage happened.*

I don't think I've ever seen a post from you without terran whine.


Its not a whine, its the truth. People saying hellbat drops without damage still leave you ahead, which is complete and utter bullshit.

I quoted the wrong post of his, this is what I should have quoted.

First showing us Terrans a glimpse of the nightmare awaiting us when all Protoss learn and master this style.

So saying something is efficient and hard to defend = "whining" in your book?

I'd say the general tone of someone saying that is whining yes, because you could have said "this is going to be hard to defend and its going to be efficient" is pretty different to what you wrote.

What I wrote is a compliment for First's play actually, but whatever.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 02 2013 12:10 GMT
#1689
On July 02 2013 21:09 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 21:08 Die4Ever wrote:
I miss Code A finals


Have a vague memory of them often being better than their Code S counterpart.


And then there was Curious vs Oz
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 02 2013 12:10 GMT
#1690
On July 02 2013 21:10 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 21:09 Tobblish wrote:
On July 02 2013 21:08 Die4Ever wrote:
I miss Code A finals


Have a vague memory of them often being better than their Code S counterpart.


And then there was Curious vs Oz

Nothing will ever be worse then Inca vs Nestea.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16848 Posts
July 02 2013 12:11 GMT
#1691
On July 02 2013 21:10 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 21:09 Tobblish wrote:
On July 02 2013 21:08 Die4Ever wrote:
I miss Code A finals


Have a vague memory of them often being better than their Code S counterpart.


And then there was Curious vs Oz

Flawless from curious tho. that's cool too (for the storyline).
The Bomber boy
minhblizzard
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore425 Posts
July 02 2013 12:11 GMT
#1692
On July 02 2013 21:10 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 21:10 Dodgin wrote:
On July 02 2013 21:09 Tobblish wrote:
On July 02 2013 21:08 Die4Ever wrote:
I miss Code A finals


Have a vague memory of them often being better than their Code S counterpart.


And then there was Curious vs Oz

Nothing will ever be worse then Inca vs Nestea.

How about Seed vs MC?
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
July 02 2013 12:11 GMT
#1693
Hell yeah Bomber!!!
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
July 02 2013 12:11 GMT
#1694
On July 02 2013 21:10 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 21:09 Tobblish wrote:
On July 02 2013 21:08 Die4Ever wrote:
I miss Code A finals


Have a vague memory of them often being better than their Code S counterpart.


And then there was Curious vs Oz


Don't think I even watched that finals, it's the only one other than MC July that I haven't watched live.
(watching finals via VOD is so bad)
The curse is real
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 02 2013 12:12 GMT
#1695
On July 02 2013 21:11 minhblizzard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 21:10 bo1b wrote:
On July 02 2013 21:10 Dodgin wrote:
On July 02 2013 21:09 Tobblish wrote:
On July 02 2013 21:08 Die4Ever wrote:
I miss Code A finals


Have a vague memory of them often being better than their Code S counterpart.


And then there was Curious vs Oz

Nothing will ever be worse then Inca vs Nestea.

How about Seed vs MC?

at least that final had more than 1 build
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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 02 2013 12:12 GMT
#1696
On July 02 2013 21:07 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 21:02 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 02 2013 20:55 NarutO wrote:
On July 02 2013 20:54 bo1b wrote:
On July 02 2013 20:53 TheDwf wrote:
On July 02 2013 20:52 Qikz wrote:
On July 02 2013 20:51 Caihead wrote:
Fantasy what happened.


Bio happened. I seem to remember the same thing happening in BW until he gave up on Bio in TvZ and just made mech work for himself.

His bio control compared to everyone else is really far down.

Hellbat drops with no damage happened.*

I don't think I've ever seen a post from you without terran whine.


Its not a whine, its the truth. People saying hellbat drops without damage still leave you ahead, which is complete and utter bullshit.


Even if it's the truth, it's obviously not very hard to do boatloads of damage with hellbat drops. You keep claiming TheDwf is speaking the truth and he very well may be, but simply being a high-level player doesn't make you immune to bias. Though TheDwf may be making valid points, he fails to mention tools that Terran has that are also quite difficult for Protoss to deal with, thus he's not making a balanced assessment of the matchup as a whole. What about how, despite First's immaculate defense in those games, Hellbat drops and speedivac harass are also things that are quite difficult for Protoss players to deal with? Or is First vs. Fantasy supposed to be the be-all-end-all of PvT balance, with the assumption that First and Fantasy were equal in skill and the reason the games looked that way was because of balance problems, not because First played better than Fantasy?

If you admit that First played better than Fantasy then I don't see a problem with what we just saw. Maybe a better player could have made that harass work better.

I liked those games because they showed two things that I've been constantly saying in TvP debates, i. e. 1) Protoss has efficient harassment possibilities (Prisms, Zealots raids, DTs, Phoenixes, Oracles), and 2) First defended Hellbat drops without any significant loss and was in a good position afterwards. So I'm happy to collect two new examples to argue against people who keep repeating that "Protoss can't harass" and that "Hellbat drops have no downsides even if they fail". That's all.


Well, I'd say those people are stupid. It's been obvious that Zealot runbys and warp prism warp-ins have been methods of Protoss harass for a long time, and it's obvious that if you invest money into a drop and you lose your shit without killing anything, that's bad. But that doesn't change the fact that Hellbat drops and speedivacs are still very effective harass tools in PvT, and that a single successful Hellbat drop can essentially end the game because of all the splash they do.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16848 Posts
July 02 2013 12:12 GMT
#1697
On July 02 2013 21:12 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 21:11 minhblizzard wrote:
On July 02 2013 21:10 bo1b wrote:
On July 02 2013 21:10 Dodgin wrote:
On July 02 2013 21:09 Tobblish wrote:
On July 02 2013 21:08 Die4Ever wrote:
I miss Code A finals


Have a vague memory of them often being better than their Code S counterpart.


And then there was Curious vs Oz

Nothing will ever be worse then Inca vs Nestea.

How about Seed vs MC?

at least that final had more than 1 build

it had 2.
The Bomber boy
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17739 Posts
July 02 2013 12:12 GMT
#1698
there are so few WCS KR seasons per year, I feel like they could take the top 6 from Code A, make 2 groups of 3, and the top player from each group plays in the Code A finals
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
July 02 2013 12:12 GMT
#1699
On July 02 2013 21:10 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 21:10 Dodgin wrote:
On July 02 2013 21:09 Tobblish wrote:
On July 02 2013 21:08 Die4Ever wrote:
I miss Code A finals


Have a vague memory of them often being better than their Code S counterpart.


And then there was Curious vs Oz

Nothing will ever be worse then Inca vs Nestea.


So bad it was the most epic final ever!
The curse is real
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
July 02 2013 12:12 GMT
#1700
On July 02 2013 21:11 minhblizzard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 21:10 bo1b wrote:
On July 02 2013 21:10 Dodgin wrote:
On July 02 2013 21:09 Tobblish wrote:
On July 02 2013 21:08 Die4Ever wrote:
I miss Code A finals


Have a vague memory of them often being better than their Code S counterpart.


And then there was Curious vs Oz

Nothing will ever be worse then Inca vs Nestea.

How about Seed vs MC?

I mean, most ppl wanted MC to win but the matches themselves were not as bad as Inca nestea
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