• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:25
CEST 02:25
KST 09:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers19Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
Leta's ASL S21 Ro.16 review BW General Discussion ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Data needed
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro16 Group C [ASL21] Ro16 Group D
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1892 users

[OSL] RO32 Group G&H WCS Korea Season 2 2013 - Page 31

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 29 30 31 32 33 94 Next
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
June 27 2013 10:44 GMT
#601
On June 27 2013 19:42 Sumahi wrote:
Yay Supernova! You were the only player in the group I actually wanted to see advance!


But... But... Your signature...
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50865 Posts
June 27 2013 10:44 GMT
#602
On June 27 2013 19:43 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 19:42 Kommander wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:41 Wintex wrote:
I wish the mothership core worked like an arbiter. TT


You mean you wish it had stasis?

nono, the teleport.


warpins are like recall.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
June 27 2013 10:44 GMT
#603
On June 27 2013 19:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 19:36 samurai80 wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:30 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:29 TheDwf wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:28 samurai80 wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:21 gobbledydook wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:20 Jmanthedragonguy wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:14 TheDwf wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:13 Zealot Lord wrote:
I think this just all boils back down to protoss unable to take a quick 3rd against terran anymore due to mass drops - stopping this SCV train pull with a lesser economy is just so difficult.

Or maybe it had something to do with the failed blink/Colossi timing?

Thats the problem, every time a protoss players army enters the opponents half of the map it is considered a "timing" and is borderline all-in. It's hard to put on small pressures without being cost ineffective as protoss, since the higher tech units are to slow to save.


because he lost his mothership core and couldn't recall out.

Which means it basically comes down to be able to keep alive a quite fragile unit, and very slow on top of that.

You can simply keep it in the back since its DPS is quite insignificant.


Clearly you dont understand how Protoss armies work. They clump into a ball and they all move together. You never leave a man behind! Never!

Not sure if u know that, but the MSC needs to be with the units it recalls...


You can retreat back TO the Mothership Core. Sure you still lose some units but it's a huge difference retreating back to a Recall point than having to retreat all the way back to your base on foot.

But you could admit that the MSC, by being slow, kinda squishy and usually separated from you army makes it a fragile unit.

I don't say it is unfair, but adding the fact that the protoss army is relatively slow, it makes sense to say that poking with your whole army is close to being an allin, and that the MSC is not enough to guarantee a retreat to the protoss. Now I know the match-up is as it is, but you can't always blame a protoss player for losing too much and not do enough damage with his army.
Taboo
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania32 Posts
June 27 2013 10:45 GMT
#604
prism buff looks good in PvP
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-27 10:46:31
June 27 2013 10:46 GMT
#605
On June 27 2013 19:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 19:43 Wintex wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:42 Kommander wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:41 Wintex wrote:
I wish the mothership core worked like an arbiter. TT


You mean you wish it had stasis?

nono, the teleport.


warpins are like recall.

But the arbiter deals the same amount of shit dps and the recall is so cool for offense. warp ins have to die. DIE. I should be the one that designs LOTV.
The Bomber boy
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
June 27 2013 10:46 GMT
#606
On June 27 2013 19:44 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 19:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:36 samurai80 wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:30 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:29 TheDwf wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:28 samurai80 wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:21 gobbledydook wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:20 Jmanthedragonguy wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:14 TheDwf wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:13 Zealot Lord wrote:
I think this just all boils back down to protoss unable to take a quick 3rd against terran anymore due to mass drops - stopping this SCV train pull with a lesser economy is just so difficult.

Or maybe it had something to do with the failed blink/Colossi timing?

Thats the problem, every time a protoss players army enters the opponents half of the map it is considered a "timing" and is borderline all-in. It's hard to put on small pressures without being cost ineffective as protoss, since the higher tech units are to slow to save.


because he lost his mothership core and couldn't recall out.

Which means it basically comes down to be able to keep alive a quite fragile unit, and very slow on top of that.

You can simply keep it in the back since its DPS is quite insignificant.


Clearly you dont understand how Protoss armies work. They clump into a ball and they all move together. You never leave a man behind! Never!

Not sure if u know that, but the MSC needs to be with the units it recalls...


You can retreat back TO the Mothership Core. Sure you still lose some units but it's a huge difference retreating back to a Recall point than having to retreat all the way back to your base on foot.

But you could admit that the MSC, by being slow, kinda squishy and usually separated from you army makes it a fragile unit.

I don't say it is unfair, but adding the fact that the protoss army is relatively slow, it makes sense to say that poking with your whole army is close to being an allin, and that the MSC is not enough to guarantee a retreat to the protoss. Now I know the match-up is as it is, but you can't always blame a protoss player for losing too much and not do enough damage with his army.


Oh I acknowledge that it is a slow and fragile unit but that's exactly why I'm suggesting that people that have no intention of using Time Warp should keep it behind the army as a fall back point so that if the attack goes poorly there's a way out.

The Mothership core is by design meant to be a micro intensive unit and so far I don't think Protoss players even at the top level have mastered everything it's capable of. This is just one example of that.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
June 27 2013 10:47 GMT
#607
Artosis casts "Curse" on Parting.

Will it be effective? Stay tuned. He's currently 3-0 with his curses so far tonight.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
June 27 2013 10:47 GMT
#608
Go Squirtle!
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
June 27 2013 10:48 GMT
#609
On June 27 2013 19:46 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 19:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:43 Wintex wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:42 Kommander wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:41 Wintex wrote:
I wish the mothership core worked like an arbiter. TT


You mean you wish it had stasis?

nono, the teleport.


warpins are like recall.

But the arbiter deals the same amount of shit dps and the recall is so cool for offense. warp ins have to die. DIE. I should be the one that designs LOTV.


I disagree, just removing something is boring
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 27 2013 10:48 GMT
#610
On June 27 2013 19:44 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 19:38 xAdra wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:37 Hall0wed wrote:
Ugh Squirtle shouldn't have taken that big fight. And he really should have tried harder to target that nexus with the Zealots.

Luckily Yonghwa throws though...

Isn't it pretty okay throwing away colossi against tempests? All it takes is a remax/resupply of stalkers to slay all the tempests.


It didn't look favorable at the time because Squirtle was only left with stalker/zealot while Yonghwa had like 3 Immortals alive and like 3 tempests. I didn't expect Yonghwa to decide on attacking right away, was kinda bizarre.


Maybe Yongwha just underestimated how much of a bank Squirtle had to warp in units after Yongwha defeated his main army.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
June 27 2013 10:49 GMT
#611
On June 27 2013 19:48 Archybaldie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 19:46 Wintex wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:43 Wintex wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:42 Kommander wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:41 Wintex wrote:
I wish the mothership core worked like an arbiter. TT


You mean you wish it had stasis?

nono, the teleport.


warpins are like recall.

But the arbiter deals the same amount of shit dps and the recall is so cool for offense. warp ins have to die. DIE. I should be the one that designs LOTV.


I disagree, just removing something is boring


IMO in the case of warp in it might be worth it.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
June 27 2013 10:49 GMT
#612
On June 27 2013 19:46 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 19:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:43 Wintex wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:42 Kommander wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:41 Wintex wrote:
I wish the mothership core worked like an arbiter. TT


You mean you wish it had stasis?

nono, the teleport.


warpins are like recall.

But the arbiter deals the same amount of shit dps and the recall is so cool for offense. warp ins have to die. DIE. I should be the one that designs LOTV.


MSC should definitely move as fast as Arbiter does
It takes a fool to remain sane.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 27 2013 10:49 GMT
#613
Squirtle....
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 27 2013 10:49 GMT
#614
On June 27 2013 19:48 Archybaldie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 19:46 Wintex wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:43 Wintex wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:42 Kommander wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:41 Wintex wrote:
I wish the mothership core worked like an arbiter. TT


You mean you wish it had stasis?

nono, the teleport.


warpins are like recall.

But the arbiter deals the same amount of shit dps and the recall is so cool for offense. warp ins have to die. DIE. I should be the one that designs LOTV.


I disagree, just removing something is boring

Ofcourse. you will get gateway units that don't suck ass.
The Bomber boy
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 27 2013 10:49 GMT
#615
OH NO WHAT THE FUCK
The Bomber boy
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
June 27 2013 10:49 GMT
#616
UH OH
Moderatorlickypiddy
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
June 27 2013 10:50 GMT
#617
On June 27 2013 19:46 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 19:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:43 Wintex wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:42 Kommander wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:41 Wintex wrote:
I wish the mothership core worked like an arbiter. TT


You mean you wish it had stasis?

nono, the teleport.


warpins are like recall.

But the arbiter deals the same amount of shit dps and the recall is so cool for offense. warp ins have to die. DIE. I should be the one that designs LOTV.


And while we're at it, you should buff gateway units, and replace colossi with reavers.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 27 2013 10:50 GMT
#618
On June 27 2013 19:50 Kommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 19:46 Wintex wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:43 Wintex wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:42 Kommander wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:41 Wintex wrote:
I wish the mothership core worked like an arbiter. TT


You mean you wish it had stasis?

nono, the teleport.


warpins are like recall.

But the arbiter deals the same amount of shit dps and the recall is so cool for offense. warp ins have to die. DIE. I should be the one that designs LOTV.


And while we're at it, you should buff gateway units, and replace colossi with reavers.

Yeah!
The Bomber boy
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 27 2013 10:50 GMT
#619
What. The. Fuck.
Highcounsel
Profile Joined March 2011
United States132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-27 10:51:09
June 27 2013 10:50 GMT
#620
How in the what, at the pro level?? Wow


EDIT: LMAO wow it worked out for him...just wow
Prev 1 29 30 31 32 33 94 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
19:00
RO16 TieBreaker - Group A
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ketroc 129
StarCraft: Brood War
ggaemo 19
League of Legends
Doublelift4248
JimRising 429
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0653
AZ_Axe206
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor262
Other Games
gofns18903
summit1g11438
tarik_tv10558
FrodaN1312
ViBE119
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1775
BasetradeTV139
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 84
• musti20045 43
• davetesta39
• mYiSmile117
• Airneanach10
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 75
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1237
• Scarra905
• tFFMrPink 6
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
9h 35m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
10h 35m
MaxPax vs SHIN
Clem vs Classic
Ladder Legends
14h 35m
Solar vs GgMaChine
Bunny vs Cham
ByuN vs MaxPax
BSL
18h 35m
CranKy Ducklings
23h 35m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
Wardi Open
1d 9h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 9h
Soma vs hero
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 15h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Leta vs YSC
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Escore
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
IPSL
6 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W4
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.