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edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
June 25 2013 14:18 GMT
#2241
Remember people hating on roro when he made the semis in February, give breakout players some love plz. Hyvva and First played brilliantly today.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
June 25 2013 14:18 GMT
#2242
On June 25 2013 23:12 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 23:09 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On June 25 2013 23:07 DJHelium wrote:
On June 25 2013 23:05 iLoveKT wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:56 Greenei wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:52 packrat386 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:50 Gorribal wrote:
Bo1 knocking out RorO, thanks OGN


yeah, how could an ex-broodwar player POSSIBLY be prepared for a Bo1 format. Such bullshit
+ Show Spoiler +
sarcasm is hard on the internet


it's not about 'being prepared for a bo1' it's about very simple math. the stronger player has a better chance to win in a longer series. if you think that life, jangbi, leenock and roro would have been kicked out of the group in bo3 series you are wrong and stupid.

gg no re ogn.

I know bo1 sucks but your last sentence implies no upsets would ever happen. I wish that was the case, Flash wouldve won everything, ever.


If by Flash you mean jjakji, then yes.

+ Show Spoiler +
:o:o:o

Still hate Jjakji. Like if you are going to steal Leenocks title at least make sure to stay relevant after.... Wouldn't mind if he lost to someone who actually are good and not just get one dream-run.


He did give us an amazing finals in a time were Nestea, Mvp and MC just smashed through to their titles. A 4-0 stomp from Leenock just wouldn't have been fun.

Nah, I'd be totally fine with Leenock winning 4-3. If Jjakji stayed relevant I wouldn't be bitter. But he hasn't done anything in 1.5 years since then and Leenock has won big tournaments. Pretty sure we can agree that Leenock is the better player. Jjakji just had a dream-run.
리노크 👑
Fischbacher
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada666 Posts
June 25 2013 14:19 GMT
#2243
On June 25 2013 23:00 Schelim wrote:
so did anybody hit all their liquibets right today?

I'd rather not look at my liquidbets for the day.

Not only did I get the OSL completely wrong but I also had misplaced faith in the EGTL resurgence...
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 25 2013 14:20 GMT
#2244
On June 25 2013 23:18 edgeOut wrote:
Remember people hating on roro when he made the semis in February, give breakout players some love plz. Hyvva and First played brilliantly today.


Wow, I completely forgot First advanced
AdministratorBreak the chains
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 14:23:55
June 25 2013 14:23 GMT
#2245
On June 25 2013 23:04 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 22:56 Greenei wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:52 packrat386 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:50 Gorribal wrote:
Bo1 knocking out RorO, thanks OGN


yeah, how could an ex-broodwar player POSSIBLY be prepared for a Bo1 format. Such bullshit
+ Show Spoiler +
sarcasm is hard on the internet


it's not about 'being prepared for a bo1' it's about very simple math. the stronger player has a better chance to win in a longer series. if you think that life, jangbi, leenock and roro would have been kicked out of the group in bo3 series you are wrong and stupid.

gg no re ogn.


I keep forgetting "stronger player" means "the player I decided should win" :/


if you really think that kangho would win a bo100 against life and jangbi or hyvaa against leenock and roro or even fantasy against life though that one is not that clear - then you have no idea what you are talking about. bo1 format killed these players.

i'm not saying it's impossible to have it happen it's just way less likely.
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 14:29:19
June 25 2013 14:28 GMT
#2246
Hyvaa can do eeeet

Autocorrect sucks
The Bomber boy
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 14:30:52
June 25 2013 14:29 GMT
#2247
On June 25 2013 23:12 Cereb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 23:10 BlackCompany wrote:
Good thing i liquibetted Life,JangBi,Leenock and Roro. Next time when i think about who advances i'll do the opposite of what i thought <.<



Lol I had the exact same prediction -_-

These four were all kind of the favorites though, I would say.


The only person i was not sure about was Leenock, the others i thought would make it 100% -_-

Maybe i get more lucky with WCS EU^^
pak150
Profile Joined September 2010
United States531 Posts
June 25 2013 14:30 GMT
#2248
On June 25 2013 23:10 BlackCompany wrote:
Good thing i liquibetted Life,JangBi,Leenock and Roro. Next time when i think about who advances i'll do the opposite of what i thought <.<


Yeah my LB was exactly the same. I have a feeling most people had these bets.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 25 2013 14:33 GMT
#2249
On June 25 2013 23:23 Greenei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 23:04 Nebuchad wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:56 Greenei wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:52 packrat386 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:50 Gorribal wrote:
Bo1 knocking out RorO, thanks OGN


yeah, how could an ex-broodwar player POSSIBLY be prepared for a Bo1 format. Such bullshit
+ Show Spoiler +
sarcasm is hard on the internet


it's not about 'being prepared for a bo1' it's about very simple math. the stronger player has a better chance to win in a longer series. if you think that life, jangbi, leenock and roro would have been kicked out of the group in bo3 series you are wrong and stupid.

gg no re ogn.


I keep forgetting "stronger player" means "the player I decided should win" :/


if you really think that kangho would win a bo100 against life and jangbi or hyvaa against leenock and roro or even fantasy against life though that one is not that clear - then you have no idea what you are talking about. bo1 format killed these players.

i'm not saying it's impossible to have it happen it's just way less likely.

when was the last time you watched a bo100? that's not how starcraft tournaments work. do you tell football fans their team wouldn't have won if the match had gone on for 50 hours?
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
ColtraneL
Profile Joined December 2011
France248 Posts
June 25 2013 14:33 GMT
#2250
On June 25 2013 23:18 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 23:12 DJHelium wrote:
On June 25 2013 23:09 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On June 25 2013 23:07 DJHelium wrote:
On June 25 2013 23:05 iLoveKT wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:56 Greenei wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:52 packrat386 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:50 Gorribal wrote:
Bo1 knocking out RorO, thanks OGN


yeah, how could an ex-broodwar player POSSIBLY be prepared for a Bo1 format. Such bullshit
+ Show Spoiler +
sarcasm is hard on the internet


it's not about 'being prepared for a bo1' it's about very simple math. the stronger player has a better chance to win in a longer series. if you think that life, jangbi, leenock and roro would have been kicked out of the group in bo3 series you are wrong and stupid.

gg no re ogn.

I know bo1 sucks but your last sentence implies no upsets would ever happen. I wish that was the case, Flash wouldve won everything, ever.


If by Flash you mean jjakji, then yes.

+ Show Spoiler +
:o:o:o

Still hate Jjakji. Like if you are going to steal Leenocks title at least make sure to stay relevant after.... Wouldn't mind if he lost to someone who actually are good and not just get one dream-run.


He did give us an amazing finals in a time were Nestea, Mvp and MC just smashed through to their titles. A 4-0 stomp from Leenock just wouldn't have been fun.

Nah, I'd be totally fine with Leenock winning 4-3. If Jjakji stayed relevant I wouldn't be bitter. But he hasn't done anything in 1.5 years since then and Leenock has won big tournaments. Pretty sure we can agree that Leenock is the better player. Jjakji just had a dream-run.


Jjakji was actually very good during GSL November and the previous season, and decent during two seasons after I would say (S1 2012 barely qualified for RO8 and S2 he won once again Taeja and lost the last match of the group against him, Taeja who went to at least 3 RO8 at this moment). He had one of the best micro in TvZ and he showcased very different styles, for example in TvP (his series in GSL November shows this). He suffered the same way as Mkp from the patch (queen range, overlord speed) that would change the face of TvZ forever (or rather a year) and went on to never win a TvZ again. But it's true that he has never been that good in TvP, at least he was very solid in TvZ at one point.
I remember him losing code A RO24 against Symbol right after the patch (that must have been rough mentally to play a TvZ like two days after it, when you really didn't have time to adapt) and Symbol kinda took all the momentum that could still be in him.
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
June 25 2013 14:45 GMT
#2251
On June 25 2013 23:33 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 23:23 Greenei wrote:
On June 25 2013 23:04 Nebuchad wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:56 Greenei wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:52 packrat386 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:50 Gorribal wrote:
Bo1 knocking out RorO, thanks OGN


yeah, how could an ex-broodwar player POSSIBLY be prepared for a Bo1 format. Such bullshit
+ Show Spoiler +
sarcasm is hard on the internet


it's not about 'being prepared for a bo1' it's about very simple math. the stronger player has a better chance to win in a longer series. if you think that life, jangbi, leenock and roro would have been kicked out of the group in bo3 series you are wrong and stupid.

gg no re ogn.


I keep forgetting "stronger player" means "the player I decided should win" :/


if you really think that kangho would win a bo100 against life and jangbi or hyvaa against leenock and roro or even fantasy against life though that one is not that clear - then you have no idea what you are talking about. bo1 format killed these players.

i'm not saying it's impossible to have it happen it's just way less likely.

when was the last time you watched a bo100? that's not how starcraft tournaments work. do you tell football fans their team wouldn't have won if the match had gone on for 50 hours?


for fucks sake..... why can't you just accept that bo1formats are bs because it's more likely that bad players advance. it's a very simple argument. but maybe we should jsut listen to you and make bo1 format finals woohee!
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 25 2013 14:46 GMT
#2252
The only objection I have to this BO1 format is that all the group games are played in a single day. In BW OSL, players only play a single game per day. Then they rest, train and prepare, and play their next BO1 game against their next opponent a few days later. Not having the time to prepare in your 2nd or 3rd matches (map and opponent may change) make the entire group format more volatile and cut-throat.
gg no re thx
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
June 25 2013 14:49 GMT
#2253
NOOOOOOOOOOOO

Life

gdi. Bo1 formats :/
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12405 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 14:50:52
June 25 2013 14:50 GMT
#2254
On June 25 2013 23:45 Greenei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 23:33 Schelim wrote:
On June 25 2013 23:23 Greenei wrote:
On June 25 2013 23:04 Nebuchad wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:56 Greenei wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:52 packrat386 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:50 Gorribal wrote:
Bo1 knocking out RorO, thanks OGN


yeah, how could an ex-broodwar player POSSIBLY be prepared for a Bo1 format. Such bullshit
+ Show Spoiler +
sarcasm is hard on the internet


it's not about 'being prepared for a bo1' it's about very simple math. the stronger player has a better chance to win in a longer series. if you think that life, jangbi, leenock and roro would have been kicked out of the group in bo3 series you are wrong and stupid.

gg no re ogn.


I keep forgetting "stronger player" means "the player I decided should win" :/


if you really think that kangho would win a bo100 against life and jangbi or hyvaa against leenock and roro or even fantasy against life though that one is not that clear - then you have no idea what you are talking about. bo1 format killed these players.

i'm not saying it's impossible to have it happen it's just way less likely.

when was the last time you watched a bo100? that's not how starcraft tournaments work. do you tell football fans their team wouldn't have won if the match had gone on for 50 hours?


for fucks sake..... why can't you just accept that bo1formats are bs because it's more likely that bad players advance. it's a very simple argument. but maybe we should jsut listen to you and make bo1 format finals woohee!


What's the difference between a good player that loses and a bad player that wins?
No will to live, no wish to die
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
June 25 2013 14:51 GMT
#2255
On June 25 2013 23:46 RKC wrote:
The only objection I have to this BO1 format is that all the group games are played in a single day. In BW OSL, players only play a single game per day. Then they rest, train and prepare, and play their next BO1 game against their next opponent a few days later. Not having the time to prepare in your 2nd or 3rd matches (map and opponent may change) make the entire group format more volatile and cut-throat.


Sigh, can't compare OSL now with the old OSL. Back then, we have stargirls, that's the best part. Now, everything need to take a backseat to LoL.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 25 2013 14:51 GMT
#2256
On June 25 2013 23:45 Greenei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 23:33 Schelim wrote:
On June 25 2013 23:23 Greenei wrote:
On June 25 2013 23:04 Nebuchad wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:56 Greenei wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:52 packrat386 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:50 Gorribal wrote:
Bo1 knocking out RorO, thanks OGN


yeah, how could an ex-broodwar player POSSIBLY be prepared for a Bo1 format. Such bullshit
+ Show Spoiler +
sarcasm is hard on the internet


it's not about 'being prepared for a bo1' it's about very simple math. the stronger player has a better chance to win in a longer series. if you think that life, jangbi, leenock and roro would have been kicked out of the group in bo3 series you are wrong and stupid.

gg no re ogn.


I keep forgetting "stronger player" means "the player I decided should win" :/


if you really think that kangho would win a bo100 against life and jangbi or hyvaa against leenock and roro or even fantasy against life though that one is not that clear - then you have no idea what you are talking about. bo1 format killed these players.

i'm not saying it's impossible to have it happen it's just way less likely.

when was the last time you watched a bo100? that's not how starcraft tournaments work. do you tell football fans their team wouldn't have won if the match had gone on for 50 hours?


for fucks sake..... why can't you just accept that bo1formats are bs because it's more likely that bad players advance. it's a very simple argument. but maybe we should jsut listen to you and make bo1 format finals woohee!

no, let's not. all i'm saying is a 'bo100' (which doesn't make sense cause the result could be 50-50, but whatever) is obviously unrealistic. i realize you were exaggarating, but my point is that consistency in long series and mental endurance aren't the only skills that matter in sc2. and if upsets were never supposed to happen, why even play tournament games? just make a bracket, look at everyone's ladder rankings and the guy with the highest ladder ranking gets a trophy. congrats ForGG, you just won WCS EU.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 25 2013 14:52 GMT
#2257
On June 25 2013 22:29 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 22:28 Juliette wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:27 robson1 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:25 opterown wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:24 robson1 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:21 Thrillz wrote:
Is Hyvaa Sniper 2.0 or Shine 2.0?!?!?


Neither. He's actually good.

sniper was damn good man


For like 3 weeks. Which conveniently were the three most zerg heavy weeks ever. I'm sorry. For me he's the guy who cockblocked ryung and nothing else.

there were a couple guys that cockblocked ryung, to be fair


Mvp and HerO had a bet of who could cockblock Ryung more often in a row

it's still going on.


Please. 1 man.

MMA. No one else comes close. He's the reason why he's the Forgotten Son
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
June 25 2013 14:56 GMT
#2258
Hyvaa and First? Wut?
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 15:01:18
June 25 2013 15:00 GMT
#2259
On June 25 2013 23:23 Greenei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 23:04 Nebuchad wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:56 Greenei wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:52 packrat386 wrote:
On June 25 2013 22:50 Gorribal wrote:
Bo1 knocking out RorO, thanks OGN


yeah, how could an ex-broodwar player POSSIBLY be prepared for a Bo1 format. Such bullshit
+ Show Spoiler +
sarcasm is hard on the internet


it's not about 'being prepared for a bo1' it's about very simple math. the stronger player has a better chance to win in a longer series. if you think that life, jangbi, leenock and roro would have been kicked out of the group in bo3 series you are wrong and stupid.

gg no re ogn.


I keep forgetting "stronger player" means "the player I decided should win" :/


if you really think that kangho would win a bo100 against life and jangbi or hyvaa against leenock and roro or even fantasy against life though that one is not that clear - then you have no idea what you are talking about. bo1 format killed these players.

i'm not saying it's impossible to have it happen it's just way less likely.

yeah, obviously the problem with the format is that it's not a bo101 - let's raid the OGN headquarters
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 25 2013 15:10 GMT
#2260
hyvaa? Really?

Well at least he can keep soO company
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