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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
June 20 2013 09:59 GMT
#461
lol GSL obs
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
June 20 2013 09:59 GMT
#462
C'mon sOs cannon rush the shit out of soO!
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 20 2013 09:59 GMT
#463
On June 20 2013 18:58 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 18:57 lichter wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:56 Kasaraki wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:54 Dodgin wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:53 Lorning wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:52 Dodgin wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:48 Grumbels wrote:
since when does everyone here hate team Prime?


I don't actually hate Prime just so It's clear. I hate no resume from replay or LAN allowing them to win when they should have lost.


Why dont you blame the GSTL/IPL referees?


I blame them too, but gerrard said something afterwards like " if they can prove that Parting would have won the game I will resign as coach " and there was never an investigation.

If Gerrard had been forced to resign, Prime would probably be better today.


But Gerrard is their best Prinezzang model! :o

nah creator is! i miss his fashion shows


Creator is adorbs but Gerrard is so manly
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
June 20 2013 09:59 GMT
#464
The fuck is Doa on about

@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
June 20 2013 10:00 GMT
#465
Fetch sOs! Get that soO!
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
June 20 2013 10:00 GMT
#466
Gogo sOs!
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
June 20 2013 10:00 GMT
#467
Has anyone mentioned that the next game is a rematch of Maru's insane hold on Entombed Valley in Code A?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-20 10:01:53
June 20 2013 10:00 GMT
#468
On June 20 2013 18:59 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 18:53 Zealously wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:52 Dodgin wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:48 Grumbels wrote:
since when does everyone here hate team Prime?


I don't actually hate Prime just so It's clear. I hate no resume from replay or LAN allowing them to win when they should have lost.


As much as I love ST, the only thing I think is clear is that MKP should have lost. Prime would still probably have won the series - they had a pretty solid line-up.


Not really.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_Global_StarCraft_II_Team_League_Season_1/Playoffs

MKP at the time was Prime's Ace, and if Parting had the game (which he should have), that would have been 3-1 in Startale's favor, in addition to Prime's ace being eliminated. Furthermore, sure, Prime had a pretty solid lineup at the time, but MKP, the guy that SHOULD have been eliminated by Parting, went on to take out Bomber, Squirtle, and Curious, and I'm pretty sure that Parting, Bomber, Squirtle, and Curious would have been enough to take out the remaining two players that Prime decided to sent out (probably Byun and Creator, don't remember who else was on Prime at the time, but probably no one better than those two).

would have, should have, no. hell, byun 3-killed them just their previous meeting - parting and squirtle included, and creator took out curious and bomber. you can't say oh mkp down, prime is dead.

this talk is ridiculous, what's done is done
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
June 20 2013 10:01 GMT
#469
On June 20 2013 19:00 Elite_ wrote:
Has anyone mentioned that the next game is a rematch of Maru's insane hold on Entombed Valley in Code A?

Someone in the thread mentioned that, yes.
The heart's eternal vow
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-20 10:02:37
June 20 2013 10:01 GMT
#470
On June 20 2013 18:56 Kreb wrote:
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On June 20 2013 18:49 TeeTS wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:44 Kreb wrote:
I wonder if the korean TvZ meta is ever gonna turn into something where you actually defend roach/baneling attacks most of the time and just play a bit greedily sometimes to switch things up rather than the other way around....


play TvZ on a decent level yourself and you'll understand that it's not that easy, since there are too many timings for zerg to hit with their various ling/bane and roach/bane pushes (don't even call them allin, since zerg transitions very smoothly out of them). The problem is, that you have to adjust your build to the actual timing way before it hits you. (to get a tank out f.e.)

Well, Im not stupid enough to claim I know better than the pros, but it just seems to me roach/bane works way too often nowadays. Obviously I dont have any stats on it, but thats how I feel. And while I cant comment exactly how changing up build does affect high level TvZ, there just seems to be so many small things that can be done. Some basic things off the top of my head:
- Get ~2 tanks out early as a standard part of your build
- Make a habit of placing 2-3 naked rax as a part of your wall rather than 1 extra reactor rax in your main. You lose a bit of minerals, but later when you feel safe you can just lift up the rax and put them in the main and put addons on them. People did this on Cloud Kingdom all the time for example.
- Make a habit of going double rather than single bunker. Surely that 100 mineral loss (25 after salvage) wont screw up that much.

Theres probably more. Surely one or more of these things, or other small adjustments which I didnt mention, wont fuck up your build too much in case an attack doesnt come?


The problem is, that the terran openings are very tight in rescources. if you want to play a pressure build, you simply have to delay your pressure by a lot for this extra safety. If you want to play greedy without any pressure, you're in a bad position anyway, since zerg probably will outgreed you easily.
The fact, that no terran really seems to be safe on a regular basis from those baneling timings (even Innovation) should be hint enough, that it's very hard to react to them correctly.
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
June 20 2013 10:01 GMT
#471
On June 20 2013 18:56 KristofferAG wrote:
What's with the delays?

Waiting for Maru to gg.
JD is BONJWA!
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
June 20 2013 10:01 GMT
#472
On June 20 2013 18:59 KristofferAG wrote:
The fuck is Doa on about


? Is he calling SoS "Sauce" again?
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 20 2013 10:01 GMT
#473
On June 20 2013 18:59 PVJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 18:57 lichter wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:56 Kasaraki wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:54 Dodgin wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:53 Lorning wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:52 Dodgin wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:48 Grumbels wrote:
since when does everyone here hate team Prime?


I don't actually hate Prime just so It's clear. I hate no resume from replay or LAN allowing them to win when they should have lost.


Why dont you blame the GSTL/IPL referees?


I blame them too, but gerrard said something afterwards like " if they can prove that Parting would have won the game I will resign as coach " and there was never an investigation.

If Gerrard had been forced to resign, Prime would probably be better today.


But Gerrard is their best Prinezzang model! :o

That's like saying that because Kassia made that SC2manual for WJS fans he should be kept on roster.


Woongjin most handsome Kespa team. Need to keep up their image ofc
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
June 20 2013 10:01 GMT
#474
OGN, I think your mouse is 'dead'.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 20 2013 10:02 GMT
#475
On June 20 2013 18:59 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 18:58 opterown wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:57 lichter wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:56 Kasaraki wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:54 Dodgin wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:53 Lorning wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:52 Dodgin wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:48 Grumbels wrote:
since when does everyone here hate team Prime?


I don't actually hate Prime just so It's clear. I hate no resume from replay or LAN allowing them to win when they should have lost.


Why dont you blame the GSTL/IPL referees?


I blame them too, but gerrard said something afterwards like " if they can prove that Parting would have won the game I will resign as coach " and there was never an investigation.

If Gerrard had been forced to resign, Prime would probably be better today.


But Gerrard is their best Prinezzang model! :o

nah creator is! i miss his fashion shows


Creator is adorbs but Gerrard is so manly

I don't think there is a slang word I hate more then adorbs.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
June 20 2013 10:02 GMT
#476
That warpgate so late
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
June 20 2013 10:02 GMT
#477
This will be a bit boring if SOS doenst outright kill him with some quick phoenix play.

I don't want blob v blob on a halved map, please ;_;
The heart's eternal vow
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
June 20 2013 10:02 GMT
#478
how come esf <> kespa is deemed baiting, but it's okay to talk about prime vs startale for 50 posts?
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
June 20 2013 10:02 GMT
#479
Wow, People still crying over that GSTL final from aaaaaaages ago
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
June 20 2013 10:02 GMT
#480
On June 20 2013 19:02 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 18:59 lichter wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:58 opterown wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:57 lichter wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:56 Kasaraki wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:54 Dodgin wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:53 Lorning wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:52 Dodgin wrote:
On June 20 2013 18:48 Grumbels wrote:
since when does everyone here hate team Prime?


I don't actually hate Prime just so It's clear. I hate no resume from replay or LAN allowing them to win when they should have lost.


Why dont you blame the GSTL/IPL referees?


I blame them too, but gerrard said something afterwards like " if they can prove that Parting would have won the game I will resign as coach " and there was never an investigation.

If Gerrard had been forced to resign, Prime would probably be better today.


But Gerrard is their best Prinezzang model! :o

nah creator is! i miss his fashion shows


Creator is adorbs but Gerrard is so manly

I don't think there is a slang word I hate more then adorbs.


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