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On June 20 2013 18:54 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2013 18:53 Lorning wrote:On June 20 2013 18:52 Dodgin wrote:On June 20 2013 18:48 Grumbels wrote:
since when does everyone here hate team Prime? I don't actually hate Prime just so It's clear. I hate no resume from replay or LAN allowing them to win when they should have lost. Why dont you blame the GSTL/IPL referees? I blame them too, but gerrard said something afterwards like " if they can prove that Parting would have won the game I will resign as coach " and there was never an investigation.
I wouldn't read too much into that... it's just the way oriental societies are centered around honour and such, of course he'd say something like that on a controversial issue.
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On June 20 2013 18:54 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2013 18:53 Lorning wrote:On June 20 2013 18:52 Dodgin wrote:On June 20 2013 18:48 Grumbels wrote:
since when does everyone here hate team Prime? I don't actually hate Prime just so It's clear. I hate no resume from replay or LAN allowing them to win when they should have lost. Why dont you blame the GSTL/IPL referees? I blame them too, but gerrard said something afterwards like " if they can prove that Parting would have won the game I will resign as coach " and there was never an investigation.
I wonder how people can still discuss over that. the hurt seems to lie very deep.
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On June 20 2013 18:54 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2013 18:53 Lorning wrote:On June 20 2013 18:52 Dodgin wrote:On June 20 2013 18:48 Grumbels wrote:
since when does everyone here hate team Prime? I don't actually hate Prime just so It's clear. I hate no resume from replay or LAN allowing them to win when they should have lost. Why dont you blame the GSTL/IPL referees? I blame them too, but gerrard said something afterwards like " if they can prove that Parting would have won the game I will resign as coach " and there was never an investigation.
If Gerrard had been forced to resign, Prime would probably be better today.
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On June 20 2013 18:49 TeeTS wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2013 18:44 Kreb wrote:
I wonder if the korean TvZ meta is ever gonna turn into something where you actually defend roach/baneling attacks most of the time and just play a bit greedily sometimes to switch things up rather than the other way around.... play TvZ on a decent level yourself and you'll understand that it's not that easy, since there are too many timings for zerg to hit with their various ling/bane and roach/bane pushes (don't even call them allin, since zerg transitions very smoothly out of them). The problem is, that you have to adjust your build to the actual timing way before it hits you. (to get a tank out f.e.)
Well, Im not stupid enough to claim I know better than the pros, but it just seems to me roach/bane works way too often nowadays. Obviously I dont have any stats on it, but thats how I feel. And while I cant comment exactly how changing up build does affect high level TvZ, there just seems to be so many small things that can be done. Some basic things off the top of my head:
- Get ~2 tanks out early as a standard part of your build
- Make a habit of placing 2-3 naked rax as a part of your wall rather than 1 extra reactor rax in your main. You lose a bit of minerals, but later when you feel safe you can just lift up the rax and put them in the main and put addons on them. People did this on Cloud Kingdom all the time for example.
- Make a habit of going double rather than single bunker. Surely that 100 mineral loss (25 after salvage) wont screw up that much.
Theres probably more. Surely one or more of these things, or other small adjustments which I didnt mention, wont fuck up your build too much in case an attack doesnt come?
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 20 2013 18:56 KristofferAG wrote:
What's with the delays?
KeSPA superior time management
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On June 20 2013 18:57 Zealously wrote:KeSPA superior time management
KESPAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
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On June 20 2013 18:56 KristofferAG wrote:
What's with the delays?
What, you think just because it's not Bo3 anymore we'll have shorter breaks?
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On June 20 2013 18:56 Kasaraki wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2013 18:54 Dodgin wrote:On June 20 2013 18:53 Lorning wrote:On June 20 2013 18:52 Dodgin wrote:On June 20 2013 18:48 Grumbels wrote:
since when does everyone here hate team Prime? I don't actually hate Prime just so It's clear. I hate no resume from replay or LAN allowing them to win when they should have lost. Why dont you blame the GSTL/IPL referees? I blame them too, but gerrard said something afterwards like " if they can prove that Parting would have won the game I will resign as coach " and there was never an investigation. If Gerrard had been forced to resign, Prime would probably be better today.
But Gerrard is their best Prinezzang model! :o
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On June 20 2013 18:56 KristofferAG wrote:
What's with the delays?
soO gotta switch booth
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Norway25712 Posts
On June 20 2013 18:57 Zealously wrote:KeSPA superior time management
Yeah I totally love it. GO KESPA!
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On June 20 2013 18:57 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2013 18:56 Kasaraki wrote:On June 20 2013 18:54 Dodgin wrote:On June 20 2013 18:53 Lorning wrote:On June 20 2013 18:52 Dodgin wrote:On June 20 2013 18:48 Grumbels wrote:
since when does everyone here hate team Prime? I don't actually hate Prime just so It's clear. I hate no resume from replay or LAN allowing them to win when they should have lost. Why dont you blame the GSTL/IPL referees? I blame them too, but gerrard said something afterwards like " if they can prove that Parting would have won the game I will resign as coach " and there was never an investigation. If Gerrard had been forced to resign, Prime would probably be better today. But Gerrard is their best Prinezzang model! :o
nah creator is! i miss his fashion shows
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On June 20 2013 18:57 MasterOfPuppets wrote:What, you think just because it's not Bo3 anymore we'll have shorter breaks?
It would be nice, wouldn't it
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Its a wonder that a fast expand into super fast techup has a weakness vs early aggression.
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Haha, the whole T'n'A experience...
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I don't know but don't you have to change all the settings for each new player entering the booth, as well as settings such as possible keybinds and what not? Apart from time for ads ofcourse.
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Vehicle of Technology speech Tasteless!
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On June 20 2013 18:53 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2013 18:52 Dodgin wrote:On June 20 2013 18:48 Grumbels wrote:
since when does everyone here hate team Prime? I don't actually hate Prime just so It's clear. I hate no resume from replay or LAN allowing them to win when they should have lost. As much as I love ST, the only thing I think is clear is that MKP should have lost. Prime would still probably have won the series - they had a pretty solid line-up.
Not really.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_Global_StarCraft_II_Team_League_Season_1/Playoffs
MKP at the time was Prime's Ace, and if Parting had the game (which he should have), that would have been 3-1 in Startale's favor, in addition to Prime's ace being eliminated. Furthermore, sure, Prime had a pretty solid lineup at the time, but MKP, the guy that SHOULD have been eliminated by Parting, went on to take out Bomber, Squirtle, and Curious, and I'm pretty sure that Parting, Bomber, Squirtle, and Curious would have been enough to take out the remaining two players that Prime decided to sent out (probably Byun and Creator, don't remember who else was on Prime at the time, but probably no one better than those two).
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On June 20 2013 18:57 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2013 18:56 Kasaraki wrote:On June 20 2013 18:54 Dodgin wrote:On June 20 2013 18:53 Lorning wrote:On June 20 2013 18:52 Dodgin wrote:On June 20 2013 18:48 Grumbels wrote:
since when does everyone here hate team Prime? I don't actually hate Prime just so It's clear. I hate no resume from replay or LAN allowing them to win when they should have lost. Why dont you blame the GSTL/IPL referees? I blame them too, but gerrard said something afterwards like " if they can prove that Parting would have won the game I will resign as coach " and there was never an investigation. If Gerrard had been forced to resign, Prime would probably be better today. But Gerrard is their best Prinezzang model! :o
That's like saying that because Kassia made that SC2manual for WJS fans he should be kept on roster.
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