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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 01:56:53
June 18 2013 01:55 GMT
#61
On June 18 2013 10:47 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 10:43 lichter wrote:
On June 18 2013 10:33 Dodgin wrote:
On June 18 2013 10:22 lichter wrote:
I'm going to go with "[OSL] Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 WCS Korea Season 2" because that's what I explained the format should normally be in my tutorial :p [Tournament name] Stage of Competition / Year / Subtitle / Season#. That's usually what we go with which I explained in the tutorial

WHICH IS BELOW, WHICH YOU SHOULD READ, IF YOU WANNA HELP MAKE LR OPs, OTHER GUYS


I like to give people here the benefit of the doubt, but we've only had one OSL in sc2 and it was not a widely viewed tournament. I think WCS KR should be at the front of the title to make it clear to everyone what this tournament is. To forum veterans It's obvious what the OSL is but certainly not to everyone, you have to remember we have a lot of new people here since HotS.

The groups could probably go before the year/season#, yeah.


That is a good point, yeah. People might think it has nothing to do with WCS KR if they don't read the whole title, and we know how bad the internet is at reading things completely. However with only one OSL a year at this point, if we don't spread the OSL brand people might never get used to it. Either way is fine with me though as long as they both show up.


Personally I prefer the " Starleague " brand over OSL, I think it sounds cooler. Currently both are at the front of the title so I think it works out okay. The Starleague part could probably do without the caps but we might as well be flashy for opening day.

So the alternative could be [OSL] WCS KR or [WCS KR OSL] I guess? I'm not sure what would be best. I definitely like the Starleague brand myself though, and the banner happens to also have the starleague title on it and not OSL/ongamenet.


Yeah Starleague does sound better. I guess we are all just attached to our acronyms (GSL, PL, MLG, DH, IPL... etc) :p I don't agree with having a really confusing tournament name like [WCS KR OSL] or something like that.

I guess since we do this for the people we should put it to a vote. Add this poll to the first post

Poll: Which title format do you prefer for this tournament?

[OSL] Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 WCS KR Season 2 (69)
 
54%

[WCS KR] OSL Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 Season 2 (42)
 
33%

[OSL] WCS KR Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 Season 2 (9)
 
7%

[WCS KR] Starleague Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 Season 2 (5)
 
4%

[WCS KR OSL] Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 Season 2 (1)
 
1%

[Starleague] Ro32 Groups A&B WCS KR 2013 Season 2 (1)
 
1%

[Starleague] WCS KR Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 Season 2 (1)
 
1%

128 total votes

Your vote: Which title format do you prefer for this tournament?

(Vote): [WCS KR] Starleague Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 Season 2
(Vote): [WCS KR] OSL Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 Season 2
(Vote): [OSL] Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 WCS KR Season 2
(Vote): [WCS KR OSL] Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 Season 2
(Vote): [Starleague] Ro32 Groups A&B WCS KR 2013 Season 2
(Vote): [OSL] WCS KR Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 Season 2
(Vote): [Starleague] WCS KR Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 Season 2



New poll. forgot one option
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 01:57:11
June 18 2013 01:55 GMT
#62
Made a banner with some cut from the OGN's promo. Maybe too minimal but I like it :p

[image loading]


On June 18 2013 10:55 lichter wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 18 2013 10:47 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 10:43 lichter wrote:
On June 18 2013 10:33 Dodgin wrote:
On June 18 2013 10:22 lichter wrote:
I'm going to go with "[OSL] Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 WCS Korea Season 2" because that's what I explained the format should normally be in my tutorial :p [Tournament name] Stage of Competition / Year / Subtitle / Season#. That's usually what we go with which I explained in the tutorial

WHICH IS BELOW, WHICH YOU SHOULD READ, IF YOU WANNA HELP MAKE LR OPs, OTHER GUYS


I like to give people here the benefit of the doubt, but we've only had one OSL in sc2 and it was not a widely viewed tournament. I think WCS KR should be at the front of the title to make it clear to everyone what this tournament is. To forum veterans It's obvious what the OSL is but certainly not to everyone, you have to remember we have a lot of new people here since HotS.

The groups could probably go before the year/season#, yeah.


That is a good point, yeah. People might think it has nothing to do with WCS KR if they don't read the whole title, and we know how bad the internet is at reading things completely. However with only one OSL a year at this point, if we don't spread the OSL brand people might never get used to it. Either way is fine with me though as long as they both show up.


Personally I prefer the " Starleague " brand over OSL, I think it sounds cooler. Currently both are at the front of the title so I think it works out okay. The Starleague part could probably do without the caps but we might as well be flashy for opening day.

So the alternative could be [OSL] WCS KR or [WCS KR OSL] I guess? I'm not sure what would be best. I definitely like the Starleague brand myself though, and the banner happens to also have the starleague title on it and not OSL/ongamenet.


Yeah Starleague does sound better. I guess we are all just attached to our acronyms (GSL, PL, MLG, DH, IPL... etc) :p I don't agree with having a really confusing tournament name like [WCS KR OSL] or something like that.

I guess since we do this for the people we should put it to a vote. Add this poll to the first post

Poll: Which title format do you prefer for this tournament?

[OSL] Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 WCS KR Season 2 (4)
 
67%

[WCS KR] Starleague Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 Season 2 (1)
 
17%

[WCS KR] OSL Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 Season 2 (1)
 
17%

[WCS KR OSL] Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 Season 2 (0)
 
0%

[Starleague] Ro32 Groups A&B WCS KR 2013 Season 2 (0)
 
0%

[OSL] WCS KR Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 Season 2 (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Which title format do you prefer for this tournament?

(Vote): [WCS KR] Starleague Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 Season 2
(Vote): [WCS KR] OSL Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 Season 2
(Vote): [OSL] Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 WCS KR Season 2
(Vote): [WCS KR OSL] Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 Season 2
(Vote): [Starleague] Ro32 Groups A&B WCS KR 2013 Season 2
(Vote): [OSL] WCS KR Ro32 Groups A&B 2013 Season 2



or just ditch the WCG KR completely. OSL Ro32 Day 1 or Starleague Ro32 Day 1 for me
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 18 2013 01:55 GMT
#63
On June 18 2013 10:52 opterown wrote:
STARLEAGUE takes up too much space imo, haha. and the caps are a bit obnoxious


I'll pm a mod in 3 hours and we can change it depending on the poll, so,

[OSL] RO32 Groups A&B WCS KR(or Korea, if it fits) 2013 Season 2

VS

[WCS KR]Groups A&B Starleague 2013 Season 2 ?
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
June 18 2013 01:56 GMT
#64
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 18 2013 01:56 GMT
#65
I added it to the OP, please vote.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 18 2013 01:57 GMT
#66
On June 18 2013 10:56 Dodgin wrote:
I added it to the OP, please vote.


Changed the poll I forgot one option
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 01:59:30
June 18 2013 01:58 GMT
#67
edited again ;; vote again

at 16:00 KST I'll pm a mod and change the title to whatever has the most votes
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 18 2013 02:00 GMT
#68
I have a feeling the traditional format will win.

Though the more I look at it the more I like [Starleague]
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 18 2013 02:02 GMT
#69
I might include a short blurb in the OP explaining what OSL is and its history to new people
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
June 18 2013 02:04 GMT
#70
On June 18 2013 11:00 lichter wrote:
I have a feeling the traditional format will win.

Though the more I look at it the more I like [Starleague]

nah it looks stupid, bracket is for abbreviation. Then again I dont even know why we would have this discussion, just do it like the old times (eg: [OSL] 2010 Bacchus OSL - RO36 Weeks 3 & 4)
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 18 2013 02:05 GMT
#71
On June 18 2013 11:02 Dodgin wrote:
I might include a short blurb in the OP explaining what OSL is and its history to new people


That's probably a good idea

And also mention how all the material says Auction All Kill Starleague and not OSL, but for uniformity's sake all Starleagues are called OSLs, but individually are called [sponsor name] Starleague.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 18 2013 02:05 GMT
#72
On June 18 2013 11:04 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 11:00 lichter wrote:
I have a feeling the traditional format will win.

Though the more I look at it the more I like [Starleague]

nah it looks stupid, bracket is for abbreviation. Then again I dont even know why we would have this discussion, just do it like the old times (eg: [OSL] 2010 Bacchus OSL - RO36 Weeks 3 & 4)


The thing is if you don't include WCS Korea or WCS KR somewhere in the title a bunch of people will skip over the thread not knowing what it is, sad but true.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 02:08:37
June 18 2013 02:07 GMT
#73
On June 18 2013 11:04 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 11:00 lichter wrote:
I have a feeling the traditional format will win.

Though the more I look at it the more I like [Starleague]

nah it looks stupid, bracket is for abbreviation. Then again I dont even know why we would have this discussion, just do it like the old times (eg: [OSL] 2010 Bacchus OSL - RO36 Weeks 3 & 4)


Title is too long unfortunately. Gonna be hard to fit in the sponsor name with WCS KR presumably taking priority.

I tried it. This is the best title that can fit everything:

[WCS KR] Auction All Kill OSL Ro32 Grp A&B 2013 S2
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 02:10:13
June 18 2013 02:08 GMT
#74
On June 18 2013 11:05 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 11:04 Arceus wrote:
On June 18 2013 11:00 lichter wrote:
I have a feeling the traditional format will win.

Though the more I look at it the more I like [Starleague]

nah it looks stupid, bracket is for abbreviation. Then again I dont even know why we would have this discussion, just do it like the old times (eg: [OSL] 2010 Bacchus OSL - RO36 Weeks 3 & 4)


The thing is if you don't include WCS Korea or WCS KR somewhere in the title a bunch of people will skip over the thread not knowing what it is, sad but true.


how would you know that for sure? maybe it's just me but tourneys section is where I looked at first, then we got a preview in the front page and a calendar entry to the right. The way you do this, people will be instructed to value the WCS brand over GSL/OSL, which is not a good thing imo.

It's better to keep the title simple, and do your best to pump up the thread with hype. People will naturally come
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
June 18 2013 02:09 GMT
#75
just normal osl please. all these wcs is so confusing
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 02:10:32
June 18 2013 02:09 GMT
#76
On June 18 2013 11:08 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 11:05 Dodgin wrote:
On June 18 2013 11:04 Arceus wrote:
On June 18 2013 11:00 lichter wrote:
I have a feeling the traditional format will win.

Though the more I look at it the more I like [Starleague]

nah it looks stupid, bracket is for abbreviation. Then again I dont even know why we would have this discussion, just do it like the old times (eg: [OSL] 2010 Bacchus OSL - RO36 Weeks 3 & 4)


The thing is if you don't include WCS Korea or WCS KR somewhere in the title a bunch of people will skip over the thread not knowing what it is, sad but true.


how would you know that for sure? maybe it's just me but tourneys section is where I looked at first, then we got a preview in the front page and a calendar entry to the right. The way you do this, people will be instructed to value the WCS brand over GSL/OSL, which is not a good thing imo


I'd be fine with having [OSL] before WCS KR, as long as WCS KR is somewhere in the title.

And I know for sure because I know these forums have tons of lurkers and casuals who don't post frequently or at all who are easily confused about everything. I spent a few hours in a thread teaching people how the sc2 professional scene works a few days ago.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 18 2013 02:10 GMT
#77
On June 18 2013 11:08 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 11:05 Dodgin wrote:
On June 18 2013 11:04 Arceus wrote:
On June 18 2013 11:00 lichter wrote:
I have a feeling the traditional format will win.

Though the more I look at it the more I like [Starleague]

nah it looks stupid, bracket is for abbreviation. Then again I dont even know why we would have this discussion, just do it like the old times (eg: [OSL] 2010 Bacchus OSL - RO36 Weeks 3 & 4)


The thing is if you don't include WCS Korea or WCS KR somewhere in the title a bunch of people will skip over the thread not knowing what it is, sad but true.


how would you know that for sure? maybe it's just me but tourneys section is where I looked at first, then we got a preview in the front page and a calendar entry to the right. The way you do this, people will be instructed to value the WCS brand over GSL/OSL, which is not a good thing imo


That is why I am pushing for the main title to be OSL or Starleague, but there HAS to be the subtitle of WCS KR so that people know it is part of the bigger picture. That's why in the format I suggest it's relegated to the back of the title. However I think it is important to include it, because this is the first OSL / WCS KR combo.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
June 18 2013 02:15 GMT
#78
Group A is an easy pick for Flash and Soulkey, and Group B is is INoVation and Flying.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
June 18 2013 02:16 GMT
#79
Just to note, Ragnorok won his 3rd code A round by roach dropping Gumiho 2 games in a row. Flash beware.
Refer to my post.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
June 18 2013 02:23 GMT
#80
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