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Sup3rior
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden442 Posts
June 07 2013 23:47 GMT
#101
I love the picture at the top :D My favorite moment of yesterday
HELLO!!! lol! :D
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1717 Posts
June 07 2013 23:48 GMT
#102
Is rebroadcast down or behind a paywall now?
•••Acer.MMA••• <> KT_Puzzle <> JinAir•GreenWings_CoCa <> CJ_herO <> Axiom CranK & Ryung <> IM_Seed <> IM_Squirtle <> le' ToD <> Innovation <> ROOT_CatZ <> inuh! <> Chobra <> SKT1_Fantasy
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 07 2013 23:49 GMT
#103
On June 08 2013 08:45 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 08:31 Soda-88 wrote:
On June 08 2013 08:27 vesicular wrote:
The one thing I hate about this system (and the AM and EU ro16) is that all the matches happen in such a short timespan. No ability to HYPE the matches.

Imagine a full week leading up to an Mvp / Innovation final.

You mean you'd rather have Artosis hyping GSL finals for the nth time with it ending up being a onesided steamroll which happens 9/10 times?
I can't remember the last time I haven't been disappointed by one such match, and before you say it, Innovation vs Soulkey was absolutely terrible series.


The GSL finals in the past two years:

jjakji/Leenock 4-2
MMA/DRG 4-3
DRG/Genius 4-2
Squirtle/Mvp 4-3
Seed/MC - 4-1
Life/Mvp 4-3
Sniper/Hyun 4-3
Symbol/Roro 4-2
Soulkey/Innovation 4-3

I don't think people even watch GSL finals anymore and pretend like they're all one-sided stomps. GSL has consistently had - BY FAR - the best finals of any SC2 tournament for the past two years.

I also don't agree that Soulkey/Innovation was a terrible series. I think it was a great series, but terrible games. I think the two are different.


I liked the games a lot although thats because I love filthy allins.

And yeah there is just really nothing like watching a full Bo7 GSL series. Even the ones that everyone says sucked (i.e. Seed vs MC, Sniper vs Hyun) had me on the edge of my seat the whole time. I don't care if it s a stomp, because when I was watching it there was always the possibility that it wouldn't be. And in a sense I always get to watch SC2 history being made :D
dreaming of a sunny day
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 07 2013 23:50 GMT
#104
On June 08 2013 08:48 ShowTheLights wrote:
Is rebroadcast down or behind a paywall now?


Don't think there are any free VODs. Thats why I'm up at this ungodly hour to watch :/
dreaming of a sunny day
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17749 Posts
June 07 2013 23:51 GMT
#105
On June 08 2013 08:49 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 08:45 Fionn wrote:
On June 08 2013 08:31 Soda-88 wrote:
On June 08 2013 08:27 vesicular wrote:
The one thing I hate about this system (and the AM and EU ro16) is that all the matches happen in such a short timespan. No ability to HYPE the matches.

Imagine a full week leading up to an Mvp / Innovation final.

You mean you'd rather have Artosis hyping GSL finals for the nth time with it ending up being a onesided steamroll which happens 9/10 times?
I can't remember the last time I haven't been disappointed by one such match, and before you say it, Innovation vs Soulkey was absolutely terrible series.


The GSL finals in the past two years:

jjakji/Leenock 4-2
MMA/DRG 4-3
DRG/Genius 4-2
Squirtle/Mvp 4-3
Seed/MC - 4-1
Life/Mvp 4-3
Sniper/Hyun 4-3
Symbol/Roro 4-2
Soulkey/Innovation 4-3

I don't think people even watch GSL finals anymore and pretend like they're all one-sided stomps. GSL has consistently had - BY FAR - the best finals of any SC2 tournament for the past two years.

I also don't agree that Soulkey/Innovation was a terrible series. I think it was a great series, but terrible games. I think the two are different.


I liked the games a lot although thats because I love filthy allins.

And yeah there is just really nothing like watching a full Bo7 GSL series. Even the ones that everyone says sucked (i.e. Seed vs MC, Sniper vs Hyun) had me on the edge of my seat the whole time. I don't care if it s a stomp, because when I was watching it there was always the possibility that it wouldn't be. And in a sense I always get to watch SC2 history being made :D

I thought Sniper vs Hyun was awesome, MC vs Seed not so much lol.
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Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
June 07 2013 23:52 GMT
#106
Roro
Mvp
Alicia
Alive

Will wake up tomorrow, see how accurate I was.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 07 2013 23:52 GMT
#107
Sniper vs. Hyun was great.

Roro/Symbol was bleh, and Seed/MC was awful.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
June 07 2013 23:53 GMT
#108
On June 08 2013 08:49 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 08:45 Fionn wrote:
On June 08 2013 08:31 Soda-88 wrote:
On June 08 2013 08:27 vesicular wrote:
The one thing I hate about this system (and the AM and EU ro16) is that all the matches happen in such a short timespan. No ability to HYPE the matches.

Imagine a full week leading up to an Mvp / Innovation final.

You mean you'd rather have Artosis hyping GSL finals for the nth time with it ending up being a onesided steamroll which happens 9/10 times?
I can't remember the last time I haven't been disappointed by one such match, and before you say it, Innovation vs Soulkey was absolutely terrible series.


The GSL finals in the past two years:

jjakji/Leenock 4-2
MMA/DRG 4-3
DRG/Genius 4-2
Squirtle/Mvp 4-3
Seed/MC - 4-1
Life/Mvp 4-3
Sniper/Hyun 4-3
Symbol/Roro 4-2
Soulkey/Innovation 4-3

I don't think people even watch GSL finals anymore and pretend like they're all one-sided stomps. GSL has consistently had - BY FAR - the best finals of any SC2 tournament for the past two years.

I also don't agree that Soulkey/Innovation was a terrible series. I think it was a great series, but terrible games. I think the two are different.


I liked the games a lot although thats because I love filthy allins.

And yeah there is just really nothing like watching a full Bo7 GSL series. Even the ones that everyone says sucked (i.e. Seed vs MC, Sniper vs Hyun) had me on the edge of my seat the whole time. I don't care if it s a stomp, because when I was watching it there was always the possibility that it wouldn't be. And in a sense I always get to watch SC2 history being made :D

People that say Sniper vs HyuN sucked probably didn't watch it and are just like OH ZVZ MUST HAVE SUCKED. Game 7 was a pretty good ending to the series. It was nowhere near the level of Seed vs MC in bad.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 07 2013 23:54 GMT
#109
On June 08 2013 08:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 08:49 packrat386 wrote:
On June 08 2013 08:45 Fionn wrote:
On June 08 2013 08:31 Soda-88 wrote:
On June 08 2013 08:27 vesicular wrote:
The one thing I hate about this system (and the AM and EU ro16) is that all the matches happen in such a short timespan. No ability to HYPE the matches.

Imagine a full week leading up to an Mvp / Innovation final.

You mean you'd rather have Artosis hyping GSL finals for the nth time with it ending up being a onesided steamroll which happens 9/10 times?
I can't remember the last time I haven't been disappointed by one such match, and before you say it, Innovation vs Soulkey was absolutely terrible series.


The GSL finals in the past two years:

jjakji/Leenock 4-2
MMA/DRG 4-3
DRG/Genius 4-2
Squirtle/Mvp 4-3
Seed/MC - 4-1
Life/Mvp 4-3
Sniper/Hyun 4-3
Symbol/Roro 4-2
Soulkey/Innovation 4-3

I don't think people even watch GSL finals anymore and pretend like they're all one-sided stomps. GSL has consistently had - BY FAR - the best finals of any SC2 tournament for the past two years.

I also don't agree that Soulkey/Innovation was a terrible series. I think it was a great series, but terrible games. I think the two are different.


I liked the games a lot although thats because I love filthy allins.

And yeah there is just really nothing like watching a full Bo7 GSL series. Even the ones that everyone says sucked (i.e. Seed vs MC, Sniper vs Hyun) had me on the edge of my seat the whole time. I don't care if it s a stomp, because when I was watching it there was always the possibility that it wouldn't be. And in a sense I always get to watch SC2 history being made :D

People that say Sniper vs HyuN sucked probably didn't watch it and are just like OH ZVZ MUST HAVE SUCKED. Game 7 was a pretty good ending to the series. It was nowhere near the level of Seed vs MC in bad.


Now the question is, which was worse: Seed-MC, or Nestea-Inca?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17749 Posts
June 07 2013 23:55 GMT
#110
On June 08 2013 08:54 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 08:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On June 08 2013 08:49 packrat386 wrote:
On June 08 2013 08:45 Fionn wrote:
On June 08 2013 08:31 Soda-88 wrote:
On June 08 2013 08:27 vesicular wrote:
The one thing I hate about this system (and the AM and EU ro16) is that all the matches happen in such a short timespan. No ability to HYPE the matches.

Imagine a full week leading up to an Mvp / Innovation final.

You mean you'd rather have Artosis hyping GSL finals for the nth time with it ending up being a onesided steamroll which happens 9/10 times?
I can't remember the last time I haven't been disappointed by one such match, and before you say it, Innovation vs Soulkey was absolutely terrible series.


The GSL finals in the past two years:

jjakji/Leenock 4-2
MMA/DRG 4-3
DRG/Genius 4-2
Squirtle/Mvp 4-3
Seed/MC - 4-1
Life/Mvp 4-3
Sniper/Hyun 4-3
Symbol/Roro 4-2
Soulkey/Innovation 4-3

I don't think people even watch GSL finals anymore and pretend like they're all one-sided stomps. GSL has consistently had - BY FAR - the best finals of any SC2 tournament for the past two years.

I also don't agree that Soulkey/Innovation was a terrible series. I think it was a great series, but terrible games. I think the two are different.


I liked the games a lot although thats because I love filthy allins.

And yeah there is just really nothing like watching a full Bo7 GSL series. Even the ones that everyone says sucked (i.e. Seed vs MC, Sniper vs Hyun) had me on the edge of my seat the whole time. I don't care if it s a stomp, because when I was watching it there was always the possibility that it wouldn't be. And in a sense I always get to watch SC2 history being made :D

People that say Sniper vs HyuN sucked probably didn't watch it and are just like OH ZVZ MUST HAVE SUCKED. Game 7 was a pretty good ending to the series. It was nowhere near the level of Seed vs MC in bad.


Now the question is, which was worse: Seed-MC, or Nestea-Inca?

Seed vs MC, because at least the fan favorite won in Nestea vs Inca lol
"Expert" mods4ever.com
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 07 2013 23:56 GMT
#111
I don't know why everyone hated Seed vs MC so much. That was one of my favorite matches as a whole last year because it was really so interesting to watch MC mentally crumble vs the fast paced strategies of seed. I still think that his 4 gate proxy robo build was an awesome choice to demoralize his opponent, and having the balls to pull it out 2 games in a row against someone considered to be far ahead of him in PvP was pretty cool as well.

I think the most interesting part of the series was where MC just completely failed to hold the blink stalker attack in G3. There are obviously a few different factors that could explain it, but based on how he looked after the first 2 games I would say he was 100% psyched out at that point.

Yeah it was over quickly, and yeah Seed didn't exactly go on to do much else, but the match itself was really cool imo.
dreaming of a sunny day
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 00:00:16
June 08 2013 00:00 GMT
#112
4 Korean vs Korean mirror matches and the scheduled time - I fear this will get very few viewers.
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 08 2013 00:01 GMT
#113
On June 08 2013 09:00 Champloo wrote:
4 Korean vs Korean mirror matches and the scheduled time - I fear this will get very few viewers.


I don't know about you, but I basically only watch if there are koreans involved.
dreaming of a sunny day
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
June 08 2013 00:03 GMT
#114
At least they're good matches as far as mirrors go, with the exception of Alicia vs sOs for me.
DeathProfessor
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1052 Posts
June 08 2013 00:07 GMT
#115
Mirror man mirror me
Mirror than mirror me
Mirror man mirror than
Mirror land farther than
Mirror day mirror way
Mirror man mirror way
Mirror man mirror me
Mirror man mirror me

Mirror dawn dawnin’ on me
Crack o dawn mirror dawn
Mirror man mirror gone
Mirror fall down mirror gone down

Lead me to your mirror now
Lead me to your mirror then
Lead me to your mirror now
Lead me to your mirror then
Mirror man mirror man
Mirror man mirror man
Mirror you mirror me

-- Mirror Man Captain Beefheart
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
June 08 2013 00:08 GMT
#116
Are they playing further down the bracket after the mirror matches at least?
1ManArmy
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands895 Posts
June 08 2013 00:09 GMT
#117
In a way its pretty cool that all Ro8 games are mirrors. That way it's certain that we will get a TvX in the finals. On top of that, the players get to really showcase that given the same pieces, they are better at controlling their respective race than their opponent.
Wouldst thou receive my all-in, cousin? - Choya
snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 00:16:46
June 08 2013 00:16 GMT
#118
I never got to see some of the games from yesterday. Im only watching to see innovation and soulkey smash some face. I generally root for the best koreans just because everyone seems to always root against them so in a way the koreans are kind of the reverse underdogs since more foreigners root against them
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 08 2013 00:17 GMT
#119
Head:
Soulkey 3-1 RorO
Alicia 1-3 sOs
ForGG 3-2 Mvp
INnoVation 3-0 Alive

Soulkey 3-2 sOs
ForGG 1-3 INnoVation

Soulkey 1-4 INnoVation


Heart:
Soulkey 0-3 RorO
Alicia 2-3 sOs
ForGG 0-3 Mvp
INnoVation 3-0 Alive

RorO 0-3 sOs
Mvp 3-2 INnoVation

Mvp 4-0 sOs
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 00:19:18
June 08 2013 00:18 GMT
#120
On June 08 2013 09:09 1ManArmy wrote:
In a way its pretty cool that all Ro8 games are mirrors. That way it's certain that we will get a TvX in the finals. On top of that, the players get to really showcase that given the same pieces, they are better at controlling their respective race than their opponent.


The problem is all the mirrors are just coin flippy or boring to watch. I used to love TvT such a positional strategic game with tank/marine where map control using tank lines was so important, but drops and hellbats just makes it luck/stupid
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