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Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
May 28 2013 08:59 GMT
#521
I really don't know if ultras are really an answer to late game tvz. they open such drop potential... I really liked Stephano's +3 mutas, in WCS finals... Of course Soulkey still is on another level, but its just the transition into hive tech against a non stop flow of units is just so hard to pull offf.
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 28 2013 08:59 GMT
#522
It'd be so funny if Woongjin lost all their matches next round and didn't make the playoffs - it could still potentially happen
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Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
May 28 2013 08:59 GMT
#523
On May 28 2013 17:58 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 17:21 slowbacontron wrote:
Well, Light did well at first... TT

no hellbats, no win

It's more make hellbats = win. And in every m-u.

we don't need to use them in every matchup though. tvz is winnable without them as you see :D
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S:klogW
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria657 Posts
May 28 2013 09:00 GMT
#524
On May 28 2013 17:57 styLesdavis wrote:
LiquidTLO just seconds ago in Twitter:
"If I could not get Bogus in the 1st round at the WCS Grandslam, that be nice... #scary"

lol tlo too funny
E = 1.89 eV = 3.03 x 10^(-19) J
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
May 28 2013 09:00 GMT
#525
On May 28 2013 17:57 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 17:56 S:klogW wrote:
Quick question? Who are the best in sc2 among exbroodwar players? What happened to early favorites like Rain and Flash


They're up there. I'd say Soulkey, Innovation, Flash, Rain and another player (RorO, sOs, Zest - one of these three, probably sOs) are the five top players on KeSPA teams currently.


Flying, goddammit
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2104 Posts
May 28 2013 09:00 GMT
#526
So. I do believe Soulkey will be all-inning at least 4 games in the finals. At least. He lost a macro game on the best zerg map. If Innovation plays that well in WCS finals, I think it might be pretty one-sided...
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 28 2013 09:00 GMT
#527
On May 28 2013 17:58 Kommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 17:56 S:klogW wrote:
Quick question? Who are the best in sc2 among exbroodwar players? What happened to early favorites like Rain and Flash


Rain is the best KeSPA protoss, without a doubt. Flash is the second best terran right now behind Innovation. Innovation is the best KeSPA player overall as of now. Soulkey is the best KeSPA zerg.


I think sOs would like to dispute that claim. He's topped the PL rankings several times and he got to the GSL semis only losing 3-4 to another player in the series that shall never again be named
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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
May 28 2013 09:00 GMT
#528
On May 28 2013 17:56 S:klogW wrote:
Quick question? Who are the best in sc2 among exbroodwar players? What happened to early favorites like Rain and Flash


Rain is still pretty good

Soulkey, Innovation god tier

hero[join], flash, sOs, Jangbi, Roro, TY, Zest top tier

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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 28 2013 09:00 GMT
#529
this finals is gonna be so sick
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
May 28 2013 09:00 GMT
#530
Soulkey should have roach bane busted. That's how you play ZvT.
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
May 28 2013 09:01 GMT
#531
On May 28 2013 17:57 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 17:56 S:klogW wrote:
Quick question? Who are the best in sc2 among exbroodwar players? What happened to early favorites like Rain and Flash


They're up there. I'd say Soulkey, Innovation, Flash, Rain and another player (RorO, sOs, Zest - one of these three, probably sOs) are the five top players on KeSPA teams currently.

Parting is doing great too, maybe not as much as the others but not very far.
It's good to be back
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 28 2013 09:01 GMT
#532
On May 28 2013 18:00 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 17:57 Zealously wrote:
On May 28 2013 17:56 S:klogW wrote:
Quick question? Who are the best in sc2 among exbroodwar players? What happened to early favorites like Rain and Flash


They're up there. I'd say Soulkey, Innovation, Flash, Rain and another player (RorO, sOs, Zest - one of these three, probably sOs) are the five top players on KeSPA teams currently.


Flying, goddammit


Nah, I wouldn't rate him that high. Remember that Parting's on a Kespa team as well and Parting is better than Flying easily.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Pitrocelli
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovakia127 Posts
May 28 2013 09:01 GMT
#533
On May 28 2013 17:56 xluik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 17:54 gobbledydook wrote:
On May 28 2013 17:53 blade55555 wrote:
On May 28 2013 17:51 Dodgin wrote:
soulkey almost survived to the part of the game where it becomes zerg favored with the ultra + queen + infestor comp, so close yet so far away.


Don't think that's zerg favored at all unless it's on a smaller map. On whirlwind no way would that ever be zerg favored.


It's funny how casters have been saying since Whirlwind first appeared in GSL that it's Zerg favoured when in reality it was 50/50 since WoL and broodlord infestors.


It's one of the favourite zerg map and if you can't win on your map, the series will be hard.


Innovation likes greedy opening into 4 base rally-push with multiple drops. Against this style you need to allin early or you are playing from behind. On Whirwind your allin collection is really limited, only some nydus play comes to mind. And still some casters ( Tasteless) and players think this map is zerg favored against Innovation ... face palm-worthy assumption
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 28 2013 09:01 GMT
#534
On May 28 2013 18:00 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 17:57 Zealously wrote:
On May 28 2013 17:56 S:klogW wrote:
Quick question? Who are the best in sc2 among exbroodwar players? What happened to early favorites like Rain and Flash


They're up there. I'd say Soulkey, Innovation, Flash, Rain and another player (RorO, sOs, Zest - one of these three, probably sOs) are the five top players on KeSPA teams currently.


Flying, goddammit


When I want someone to take out a foreigner favorite, I'd call Flying. In all other cases, I'd pick Zest and sOs over him.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-28 09:02:32
May 28 2013 09:01 GMT
#535
I'd pick Parting over sOs though. Except in PvP maybe
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
TheSayo182
Profile Joined September 2012
Italy243 Posts
May 28 2013 09:03 GMT
#536
i'm not sure but that baneling run-by could have dealt more damage
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S:klogW
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria657 Posts
May 28 2013 09:03 GMT
#537
On May 28 2013 18:00 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 17:58 Kommander wrote:
On May 28 2013 17:56 S:klogW wrote:
Quick question? Who are the best in sc2 among exbroodwar players? What happened to early favorites like Rain and Flash


Rain is the best KeSPA protoss, without a doubt. Flash is the second best terran right now behind Innovation. Innovation is the best KeSPA player overall as of now. Soulkey is the best KeSPA zerg.


I think sOs would like to dispute that claim. He's topped the PL rankings several times and he got to the GSL semis only losing 3-4 to another player in the series that shall never again be named

Wow that's quite a lot of development since I last followed sc2. Are they the best koreans at the moment, I mean including esf players?
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
May 28 2013 09:03 GMT
#538
On May 28 2013 18:00 Blargh wrote:
So. I do believe Soulkey will be all-inning at least 4 games in the finals. At least. He lost a macro game on the best zerg map. If Innovation plays that well in WCS finals, I think it might be pretty one-sided...


The best zerg map is Bel'Shir Vestige.
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
May 28 2013 09:04 GMT
#539
On May 28 2013 18:03 TheSayo182 wrote:
i'm not sure but that baneling run-by could have dealt more damage

Innovation was on top, he didn't lose a lot of SCV. Not really SK's fault, was even a nice idea I feel.
It's good to be back
Kim Hyuna
Profile Joined March 2013
Korea (South)264 Posts
May 28 2013 09:04 GMT
#540
WONDER WHAT IF MVP VS INNOVATION?
김현아 fighting!
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