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XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
May 26 2013 20:08 GMT
#5961
Surprised more people have not commented on the EG Curse.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
May 26 2013 20:08 GMT
#5962
I guess this community incurable. Even after such an amazing game there is a ton of balance whine.
sibs
Profile Joined July 2012
635 Posts
May 26 2013 20:08 GMT
#5963
On May 27 2013 05:05 Popkiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 05:04 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
MVP's micro doing battle:


Step 1) a-move

Step 2) ctrl click a marine, all marines are selected, move marines back

Step 3) banelings get murdered charging into the hellbats/marauders


do a step by step for stephano's micro.


Stephano's micro was

1)A move

2) control click banelings on marines

3) focus roach on hellbats

and some stutter stepping

the micro was about even from both, but as we saw hellbats ignored a 2-2 upgrade advantage from zerg + higher econ.

User was warned for this post
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
May 26 2013 20:08 GMT
#5964
On May 27 2013 05:05 provrorsbarn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 05:05 Moka wrote:
On May 27 2013 05:01 provrorsbarn wrote:
Lol what micro?....he just moved the marines back...and hellbats/maurauders killed everything.......


Zerg tears, nomnomnom, just joking

You should maybe watch the replay :o youll learn a thing or two


So will the blizzard team.....

LOL. Gonna blame that loss on balance. Classic.
Long live the King of Wings
Rhedsa
Profile Joined July 2011
Costa Rica594 Posts
May 26 2013 20:08 GMT
#5965
On May 27 2013 05:04 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
MVP's micro doing battle:


Step 1) a-move

Step 2) ctrl click a marine, all marines are selected, move marines back

Step 3) banelings get murdered charging into the hellbats/marauders


A good Stephano pre-battle:

Step 1) split army into 2-3 control groups

Step 2) let terran step on creep

Healbats are seriously strong, but rolling banes head on into them is not that smart...
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
May 26 2013 20:08 GMT
#5966
On May 27 2013 05:08 Antylamon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 05:07 Badfatpanda wrote:
On May 27 2013 05:07 ZenithM wrote:
On May 27 2013 05:05 provrorsbarn wrote:
On May 27 2013 05:05 Moka wrote:
On May 27 2013 05:01 provrorsbarn wrote:
Lol what micro?....he just moved the marines back...and hellbats/maurauders killed everything.......


Zerg tears, nomnomnom, just joking

You should maybe watch the replay :o youll learn a thing or two


So will the blizzard team.....

I would gladly take the nerfs if it's Mvp causing them. We Terrans are that manly, yes.
What do you have to say about that, Zerg player?

:D


Hey man, he's already caused 1 balance patch, what's another? lol

One balance patch?

Try half of the bunker changes


Meh, that was like every Korean terran player and SeleCT
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 26 2013 20:08 GMT
#5967
On May 27 2013 05:08 Kasaraki wrote:
To me Mvp isn't actually that Korean anyway. I think he's a pretty universal figure, a bigger icon of e-sports than almost anyone, so I'm surprised they aren't cheering for him at all.

You're exactly right good sir.
Jerom
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands588 Posts
May 26 2013 20:08 GMT
#5968
Zerg tears prolly because (according to some polls) more than 60% expected stephano to win this series. Obviously you don't bet against mvp, ever.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 26 2013 20:08 GMT
#5969
On May 27 2013 05:06 red_ wrote:
Why not build some spines during all of that? He had a couple moments where MVP let up for a little bit(especially when they were posturing around Stephano's 4th), surely he could've gotten some up in the choke to his natural, or on the highground at his main(I know the medivac's would spot them, but range would still be an issue).

This isn't a "I'm smarter than Stephano" type comment, I'm genuinely curious why he didn't do it and it hasn't been suggested by people as a flaw in his defense.

Stephano thought he won the game after his 2-2 finished and MVP seemingly retreated. That's why he didn't make any static defense and went for a killing blow.
A killing blow that quickly became a very grave mistake.
I had a good night of sleep.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
May 26 2013 20:09 GMT
#5970
On May 27 2013 05:07 Sikly wrote:
The haters are out in full force today.

Keep telling yourselves that MVP didn't micro beautifully. Keep telling yourself that his aggressive plays make his wins not legit. Stephano is the one who messed up by going back into droning. He's the one who upgraded lings against hellbats.

that's what happened against bogus as well he didnt scout properly and he didn't even take both watchtowers, what a pity
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
May 26 2013 20:09 GMT
#5971
Lol at people crying hell bats. Innovation stomps zergs in macro games with 0 hellbats. Find more to whine about please.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
May 26 2013 20:09 GMT
#5972
On May 27 2013 05:06 Grubbegrabbn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 05:03 Ammoth wrote:
That last game was so intense, my heart can't take this


Two players at, what? >200 APM? Those micro battles are truly amazing. One mistake and youre dead, and they kept at it for like 5 minutes...

Not to mention how easy it is to overextend on either side. They were constantly moving forward and backwards repositioning from what the other player did.

Thinking about the game, I wonder if MVP was planning to make Stephano think there would be a stop to the aggression, since he pulled back a bit, sent a medivac with rines out, which seemed to make stephano go "ohh i can drone and get mutas out" and then like 1 minute later he just piled back on, seemingly taking stephano a bit offguard.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
May 26 2013 20:09 GMT
#5973
On May 27 2013 05:07 Darkhoarse wrote:
Wow there are an absurd number of zerg tears going on.

Please don't group all of us together
I am cheering for Mvp here.
Pursuit_
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States1330 Posts
May 26 2013 20:09 GMT
#5974
On May 27 2013 05:04 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
MVP's micro doing battle:


Step 1) a-move

Step 2) ctrl click a marine, all marines are selected, move marines back

Step 3) banelings get murdered charging into the hellbats/marauders


Stephano's micro

Step 1) A move zergligns, roaches and banelings towards MVP's army

Step 2) ctrl click a baneling, all banelings selected, try to connect with marines which are running away


I don't really see why it's such a problem. Stephano had the opportunity to set up flanks ect and only ever engaged from one direction into pre-split armies by MVP.

Admittedly I think Stephano was the better player in that game, but I think it was very close and you guys aren't giving MVP the credit he deserves. His army supply was considerably higher in every engagement but Stephano's army was more efficient due to upgrades. The end result was MVP trading efficiently over and over against banelings until his army supply was too high for Stephano to deal with. It could have very easily gone either way, but MVP's micro prevailed.
In Somnis Veritas
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 20:10:12
May 26 2013 20:09 GMT
#5975
On May 27 2013 05:07 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 05:06 Purpose88 wrote:
On May 27 2013 05:06 sparklyresidue wrote:
On May 27 2013 05:05 Chr15t wrote:
On May 27 2013 05:03 -Strider- wrote:
I havent watched sc2 in a while. Why is Mvp playing in EU?

BECAUSE HE IS A F***ING BOSS

F***ING BOSS = not qualified for Code S Korea


Because he didn't even tried...

He did try.. He got knocked out. Code S in Korea is insanely difficult atm

To be honest, I don't think Mvp stand a chance against Rain, Innovation or Soulkey.
Edit: but he stands a chance to get into code S and stay in it though (if he tries).
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
May 26 2013 20:09 GMT
#5976
On May 27 2013 05:08 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 05:07 Darkhoarse wrote:
Wow there are an absurd number of zerg tears going on.

It happens whenever a fan favorite zerg loses.

Drink it up.

Its not a fan favorite zerg.
Its stephano, its something way stronger than favoritism.
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
May 26 2013 20:09 GMT
#5977
On May 27 2013 05:08 sibs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 05:05 Popkiller wrote:
On May 27 2013 05:04 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
MVP's micro doing battle:


Step 1) a-move

Step 2) ctrl click a marine, all marines are selected, move marines back

Step 3) banelings get murdered charging into the hellbats/marauders


do a step by step for stephano's micro.


Stephano's micro was

1)A move

2) control click banelings on marines

3) focus roach on hellbats

and some stutter stepping

the micro was about even from both, but as we saw hellbats ignored a 2-2 upgrade advantage from zerg + higher econ.


What else is there in Sc2? : P
fartosis77
Profile Joined February 2013
Belgium461 Posts
May 26 2013 20:09 GMT
#5978
I'm just curious why a player like MVP uses hellbats vs zerg while a player like Innovation uses widow mines. Anyone care to tell me what the reason could be? Or is it just style and doesn't it matter shit what you throw at zerg right now?
IM NESTEAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 26 2013 20:09 GMT
#5979
At least these 2 base allins from T are a ton more interesting than P 2 base allins.
Refer to my post.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
May 26 2013 20:09 GMT
#5980
On May 27 2013 05:08 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 05:08 Kasaraki wrote:
To me Mvp isn't actually that Korean anyway. I think he's a pretty universal figure, a bigger icon of e-sports than almost anyone, so I'm surprised they aren't cheering for him at all.

You're exactly right good sir.

Amen to that.
Get off my lawn, young punks
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