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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
May 26 2013 10:56 GMT
#321
On May 26 2013 19:55 DJHelium wrote:
I think it would've been a good choice to have the Ro4 first, then have the bracket for 5th place and then have the grand finals. Gives the players a bit of time to prepare for it.


I generally think it's awful for any format to play games where neither player can advance in the actual bracket. It's no fun to watch bronze matches. It'd be preferable if map scores or head-to-head scores had decided stuff.
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
May 26 2013 10:57 GMT
#322
On May 26 2013 19:53 hmmm... wrote:
Never watched european pros play till today.

Wow after watching only code s and proleague, this is like watching an entirely different league, to put it elegantly.



These two matches we have seen, has been horrible sloppy. I think TLO is devestatet, and Happy is just not in his Ace at all. Normally watching two EU pros play is high play.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
May 26 2013 10:57 GMT
#323
On May 26 2013 19:53 hmmm... wrote:
Never watched european pros play till today.

Wow after watching only code s and proleague, this is like watching an entirely different league, to put it elegantly.



Yea lets take bad games like these and then generalise the EU level of play. Seriously TL sometimes epitome of stupidity
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Deadreckoning
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany19 Posts
May 26 2013 10:57 GMT
#324
Hope Happy will win against TLO.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33712 Posts
May 26 2013 10:57 GMT
#325
got my bagel and coffee, feelin' good
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 26 2013 10:58 GMT
#326
On May 26 2013 19:56 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 19:55 DJHelium wrote:
I think it would've been a good choice to have the Ro4 first, then have the bracket for 5th place and then have the grand finals. Gives the players a bit of time to prepare for it.


I generally think it's awful for any format to play games where neither player can advance in the actual bracket. It's no fun to watch bronze matches. It'd be preferable if map scores or head-to-head scores had decided stuff.


Map scores or head to head to decide who goes to the season finals, are you insane? ;/

If you don't want to watch these matches, come back in 4 hours. It's scheduled so you can show up for the main tournament and watch it all at once.
emanresU
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany393 Posts
May 26 2013 10:58 GMT
#327
On May 26 2013 19:55 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 19:53 hmmm... wrote:
Never watched european pros play till today.

Wow after watching only code s and proleague, this is like watching an entirely different league, to put it elegantly.



To be fair, Proleague has had it's fair share of.. uhm... interesting games.


PvPvPvPvPvPvPvPvPvP
There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things you love. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 26 2013 10:58 GMT
#328
On May 26 2013 19:56 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 19:55 DJHelium wrote:
I think it would've been a good choice to have the Ro4 first, then have the bracket for 5th place and then have the grand finals. Gives the players a bit of time to prepare for it.


I generally think it's awful for any format to play games where neither player can advance in the actual bracket. It's no fun to watch bronze matches. It'd be preferable if map scores or head-to-head scores had decided stuff.


These matches are much more important than your average 3rd/4th-place matches though - they eventually decide who goes to the Season Finals. That's a big deal, and it wouldn't be fair to have TLO lose out because he got handed Mvp, arguably the best player in this league given preparation time, and was demolished. The only fair way here, in my eyes, is to have the players play each other to determine who is the strongest.
AdministratorBreak the chains
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
May 26 2013 10:59 GMT
#329
On May 26 2013 19:57 Waxangel wrote:
got my bagel and coffee, feelin' good


Oh fuck you are tempting me, I usually have coffebreak during friday, saturday and sunday to have it kick in during weekdays ^^ Some coffe now would be nice
HonorZ
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France858 Posts
May 26 2013 10:59 GMT
#330
Does twitch lag for you at 480p ?

Wondering if happy is gonna go for quick 3rd cc this time
"If you don't drop sweat today you'll drop tears tomorrow"
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 26 2013 10:59 GMT
#331
On May 26 2013 19:57 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 19:53 hmmm... wrote:
Never watched european pros play till today.

Wow after watching only code s and proleague, this is like watching an entirely different league, to put it elegantly.



Yea lets take bad games like these and then generalise the EU level of play. Seriously TL sometimes epitome of stupidity


In fairness he stated that he's never watched european pros play before today; how would he know?
AdministratorBreak the chains
freerolll
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Belgium1056 Posts
May 26 2013 10:59 GMT
#332
On May 26 2013 19:56 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 19:55 DJHelium wrote:
I think it would've been a good choice to have the Ro4 first, then have the bracket for 5th place and then have the grand finals. Gives the players a bit of time to prepare for it.


I generally think it's awful for any format to play games where neither player can advance in the actual bracket. It's no fun to watch bronze matches. It'd be preferable if map scores or head-to-head scores had decided stuff.




........... Please check the WCS system and what it means to come in 5th place
and then tell me that you in the position of the player would like anything about your so called better system
Always give without remembering & always receive without forgetting.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33712 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 11:01:15
May 26 2013 11:00 GMT
#333
On May 26 2013 19:58 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 19:56 Heartland wrote:
On May 26 2013 19:55 DJHelium wrote:
I think it would've been a good choice to have the Ro4 first, then have the bracket for 5th place and then have the grand finals. Gives the players a bit of time to prepare for it.


I generally think it's awful for any format to play games where neither player can advance in the actual bracket. It's no fun to watch bronze matches. It'd be preferable if map scores or head-to-head scores had decided stuff.


These matches are much more important than your average 3rd/4th-place matches though - they eventually decide who goes to the Season Finals. That's a big deal, and it wouldn't be fair to have TLO lose out because he got handed Mvp, arguably the best player in this league given preparation time, and was demolished. The only fair way here, in my eyes, is to have the players play each other to determine who is the strongest.


yeah I like these matches, they definitely need to be shown

it's not like they are hurting anyone by showing them, if you wanted you could just skip them and check back in when the real semi-final bracket starts
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
May 26 2013 11:01 GMT
#334
Happy seems completely unpredictable.
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
syroz
Profile Joined September 2012
France249 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 11:02:13
May 26 2013 11:01 GMT
#335
On May 26 2013 19:59 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 19:57 Benjamin99 wrote:
On May 26 2013 19:53 hmmm... wrote:
Never watched european pros play till today.

Wow after watching only code s and proleague, this is like watching an entirely different league, to put it elegantly.



Yea lets take bad games like these and then generalise the EU level of play. Seriously TL sometimes epitome of stupidity


In fairness he stated that he's never watched european pros play before today; how would he know?


I think he did, he just want to play smart ass. I only watch code S becuz i worth it u know. Non code S is so low skill omagad.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
May 26 2013 11:01 GMT
#336
On May 26 2013 19:59 freerolll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 19:56 Heartland wrote:
On May 26 2013 19:55 DJHelium wrote:
I think it would've been a good choice to have the Ro4 first, then have the bracket for 5th place and then have the grand finals. Gives the players a bit of time to prepare for it.


I generally think it's awful for any format to play games where neither player can advance in the actual bracket. It's no fun to watch bronze matches. It'd be preferable if map scores or head-to-head scores had decided stuff.




........... Please check the WCS system and what it means to come in 5th place
and then tell me that you in the position of the player would like anything about your so called better system


I was discussing in the actual tournament, I do realize that it's meaningful in the overall league. But my point stands, I think it's the same when the bronze place match gives a higher amount of money than the 4th place. It takes something away from the excitement to watch games where, in the actual tournament they're playing, they can't advance. But thanks for your snarky tone : P
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 11:03:42
May 26 2013 11:03 GMT
#337
TLO should add roach/hydra's to his play in these longer series I feel. It's inferior to bane/ling/muta, but it does make these kind of cheeses more risky.

nvm. he held perfectly lol. What the hell XD
GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 11:04:01
May 26 2013 11:03 GMT
#338
Oh god what happened to TLO??

nvm :D
emanresU
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany393 Posts
May 26 2013 11:03 GMT
#339
Oh butts
There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things you love. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
May 26 2013 11:03 GMT
#340
TLO!!!
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