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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 26 2013 16:36 GMT
#2861
On May 27 2013 01:35 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 01:34 Wampaibist wrote:
WHAT DIMAGA WON YeS DIAMAGA WON DIMAGAAA

eum, no he didn't.

Don't.. don't break it. It's the only thing that holds him together now.
Glorious SEA doto
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 16:38:55
May 26 2013 16:36 GMT
#2862
On May 27 2013 01:33 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 01:31 Zarahtra wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:28 TheDwf wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:24 Zarahtra wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:22 Wildmoon wrote:
How the hell Dimaga managed to beat Mvp 2-0? They don't look even close.

Well game 1 is really the only game you can take to much away from. That game it was decently close. If it was another map, it might've gone either way, but he had difficulty keeping his 4th alive due to map layout.
Game 2 obviously was terrible, guess he just doesn't have much experience with mech. Add ontop of that if you aren't going to be using swarm hosts that map is terrible against mech.
Game 3 was just a build order loss imo. Or well not to take anything away from MVP, he defended perfectly, but I feel dima couldn't really do anything much better than what he did.

Game 1: the game was close while Dimaga had a huge advantage getting away with a hive rush and a solid position.
Game 2: Newkirk isn't a good map at all for mech in TvZ. You can never reach his bases without exposing yourself to horrible flanks. Your mech army is always in a world of pain when marching beyond the middle.
Game 3 had nothing to do with a build order loss. Dimaga tried a gamble and Mvp defended, that's all.

Game 2 I'd argue is about as good as you get for mech(only akkilon better I'd say, again assuming opponent doesn't go SH). Call it good map or not, I don't particularly feel mech is strong, so yeah...
Game 3, well you can hardly deny that a reaper opening would've been much worse against the roach rush. Seeing the prevelance of reaper openings, what I was saying is that I think he was hoping for a reaper opening, else with good defense(and I think dima has enough respect for MVP to expect good defense), it can be held.

A Reaper opening would have been better actually, the Reaper can reliably scout gas mined beyond 100 + lack of second queen and even the Roach Warren if he comes from the right angle, then you get a Bunker and Marauders or a quick Tank and you hold without any trouble.

You do realize that the roaches were hitting basically when the factory finished... A reaper opening would make the factory atleast 45 seconds later and I'm hard pressed to see a rauder coming out early enough. He probably would've held, but the hellion runby would not have happened and more than 5 scvs would go down.

Edit: Hmm or maybe you are right, ugh assumed it was 13 gas expand, but rethinking it, it ofc must've been either 15 gas or 1rax cc
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 26 2013 16:37 GMT
#2863
On May 27 2013 01:35 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 01:34 Wampaibist wrote:
WHAT DIMAGA WON YeS DIAMAGA WON DIMAGAAA

eum, no he didn't.


Shhhhhhhhh Didn't you see how happy he was?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
May 26 2013 16:37 GMT
#2864
GO FORGG ! for France!!
Ravage the EG murican! vive la liberté !
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 26 2013 16:38 GMT
#2865
On May 27 2013 01:36 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 01:35 Assirra wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:34 Wampaibist wrote:
WHAT DIMAGA WON YeS DIAMAGA WON DIMAGAAA

eum, no he didn't.

Don't.. don't break it. It's the only thing that holds him together now.

but but he must know the truth!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
May 26 2013 16:39 GMT
#2866
On May 27 2013 01:38 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 01:36 Fusilero wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:35 Assirra wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:34 Wampaibist wrote:
WHAT DIMAGA WON YeS DIAMAGA WON DIMAGAAA

eum, no he didn't.

Don't.. don't break it. It's the only thing that holds him together now.

but but he must know the truth!


lol this is actually hilarious.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
May 26 2013 16:39 GMT
#2867
On May 27 2013 01:36 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 01:33 TheDwf wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:31 Zarahtra wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:28 TheDwf wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:24 Zarahtra wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:22 Wildmoon wrote:
How the hell Dimaga managed to beat Mvp 2-0? They don't look even close.

Well game 1 is really the only game you can take to much away from. That game it was decently close. If it was another map, it might've gone either way, but he had difficulty keeping his 4th alive due to map layout.
Game 2 obviously was terrible, guess he just doesn't have much experience with mech. Add ontop of that if you aren't going to be using swarm hosts that map is terrible against mech.
Game 3 was just a build order loss imo. Or well not to take anything away from MVP, he defended perfectly, but I feel dima couldn't really do anything much better than what he did.

Game 1: the game was close while Dimaga had a huge advantage getting away with a hive rush and a solid position.
Game 2: Newkirk isn't a good map at all for mech in TvZ. You can never reach his bases without exposing yourself to horrible flanks. Your mech army is always in a world of pain when marching beyond the middle.
Game 3 had nothing to do with a build order loss. Dimaga tried a gamble and Mvp defended, that's all.

Game 2 I'd argue is about as good as you get for mech(only akkilon better I'd say, again assuming opponent doesn't go SH). Call it good map or not, I don't particularly feel mech is strong, so yeah...
Game 3, well you can hardly deny that a reaper opening would've been much worse against the roach rush. Seeing the prevelance of reaper openings, what I was saying is that I think he was hoping for a reaper opening, else with good defense(and I think dima has enough respect for MVP to expect good defense), it can be held.

A Reaper opening would have been better actually, the Reaper can reliably scout gas mined beyond 100 + lack of second queen and even the Roach Warren if he comes from the right angle, then you get a Bunker and Marauders or a quick Tank and you hold without any trouble.

You do realize that the roaches were hitting basically when the factory finished... A reaper opening would make the factory atleast 45 seconds later and I'm hard pressed to see a rauder coming out early enough. He probably would've held, but the hellion runby would not have happened and more than 5 scvs would go down.

Dimaga arrived at Mvp's natural at 6'45. CC first builds the Factory at 4'25 - 4'30, exactly like Reaper expands.
hillman
Profile Joined February 2012
United States162 Posts
May 26 2013 16:39 GMT
#2868
On May 26 2013 06:51 Derez wrote:
MVP - Stephano finals with MVP winning would be the best thing that could happen as far as I'm concerned .


Yeah I'm sure that's what everyone wants...a fallen Korean coming to Europe to take the title from a foreigner...LOL WTF?
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 26 2013 16:39 GMT
#2869
On May 27 2013 01:37 IshinShishi wrote:
GO FORGG ! for France!!
Ravage the EG murican! vive la liberté !
yeah, ForGG make France proud and defeat that filthy yankee
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
May 26 2013 16:40 GMT
#2870
TLO must feel pretty ok now that he is not the only one who got 3-0ed by Mvp.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 26 2013 16:40 GMT
#2871
On May 27 2013 01:39 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 01:37 IshinShishi wrote:
GO FORGG ! for France!!
Ravage the EG murican! vive la liberté !
yeah, ForGG make France proud and defeat that filthy yankee


This is so weird
AdministratorBreak the chains
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
May 26 2013 16:40 GMT
#2872
If Stephano didn't party too hard yesterday he should win vs ForGG. He's in a bit of a disadvantage vs MVP but I still kinda like his chances. His normal level unit positioning and discission making is a lot better than Dimaga showed.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
May 26 2013 16:40 GMT
#2873
Anyway, whoever wins this, I'll be happy and cheer for him in the final.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 26 2013 16:40 GMT
#2874
On May 27 2013 01:39 hillman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 06:51 Derez wrote:
MVP - Stephano finals with MVP winning would be the best thing that could happen as far as I'm concerned .


Yeah I'm sure that's what everyone wants...a fallen Korean coming to Europe to take the title from a foreigner...LOL WTF?

i really, really want that too, matter of fact it has been my dream final and outcome ever since Grubby was eliminated from the tournament. but i'm not really into fancy vocabulary like "fallen Korean".
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
May 26 2013 16:40 GMT
#2875
On May 27 2013 01:33 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 01:32 figq wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:31 Boucot wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:30 Emzeeshady wrote:
ForGG wants to go to Spain? :p

I'm not sure that the Spanish want him to come :p
regardless, they cannot hold


French-Spain border made of supply depots ?


Andorra would sell us out.
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
May 26 2013 16:41 GMT
#2876
TLO TLO TLO TLO
invisible tetris level master
clementdudu
Profile Joined September 2010
France819 Posts
May 26 2013 16:41 GMT
#2877
On May 27 2013 01:36 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 01:35 Crushinator wrote:
Twitch is dying on me
it died for me when Mvp-Dimaga gained speed
switched down from 720+ to 480 and no problems since then

it's because huge influxes of viewers are joining the fun

switched from 720+ to 240 and still a slideshow
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 26 2013 16:41 GMT
#2878
Where the hell did all those germans come from?!?! O.O
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
yuliuswin1
Profile Joined September 2012
Indonesia36 Posts
May 26 2013 16:42 GMT
#2879
mvp stephano final plzzz
have fun
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
May 26 2013 16:42 GMT
#2880
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