• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:30
CEST 18:30
KST 01:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)10[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0
StarCraft 2
General
Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview Updates to The Core/Core Lite for v5.0.16? RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 2026
Tourneys
GSL CK #4 20-21th June Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 530 One For All The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Where is EffOrt? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total War: Warhammer 40K
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
The Games Industry And ATVI US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Does Workplace Frustration D…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7732 users

[WCS EU] Finals Day 2 Premier Season 1 2013 - Page 144

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 142 143 144 145 146 357 Next
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 26 2013 16:36 GMT
#2861
On May 27 2013 01:35 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 01:34 Wampaibist wrote:
WHAT DIMAGA WON YeS DIAMAGA WON DIMAGAAA

eum, no he didn't.

Don't.. don't break it. It's the only thing that holds him together now.
Glorious SEA doto
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 16:38:55
May 26 2013 16:36 GMT
#2862
On May 27 2013 01:33 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 01:31 Zarahtra wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:28 TheDwf wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:24 Zarahtra wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:22 Wildmoon wrote:
How the hell Dimaga managed to beat Mvp 2-0? They don't look even close.

Well game 1 is really the only game you can take to much away from. That game it was decently close. If it was another map, it might've gone either way, but he had difficulty keeping his 4th alive due to map layout.
Game 2 obviously was terrible, guess he just doesn't have much experience with mech. Add ontop of that if you aren't going to be using swarm hosts that map is terrible against mech.
Game 3 was just a build order loss imo. Or well not to take anything away from MVP, he defended perfectly, but I feel dima couldn't really do anything much better than what he did.

Game 1: the game was close while Dimaga had a huge advantage getting away with a hive rush and a solid position.
Game 2: Newkirk isn't a good map at all for mech in TvZ. You can never reach his bases without exposing yourself to horrible flanks. Your mech army is always in a world of pain when marching beyond the middle.
Game 3 had nothing to do with a build order loss. Dimaga tried a gamble and Mvp defended, that's all.

Game 2 I'd argue is about as good as you get for mech(only akkilon better I'd say, again assuming opponent doesn't go SH). Call it good map or not, I don't particularly feel mech is strong, so yeah...
Game 3, well you can hardly deny that a reaper opening would've been much worse against the roach rush. Seeing the prevelance of reaper openings, what I was saying is that I think he was hoping for a reaper opening, else with good defense(and I think dima has enough respect for MVP to expect good defense), it can be held.

A Reaper opening would have been better actually, the Reaper can reliably scout gas mined beyond 100 + lack of second queen and even the Roach Warren if he comes from the right angle, then you get a Bunker and Marauders or a quick Tank and you hold without any trouble.

You do realize that the roaches were hitting basically when the factory finished... A reaper opening would make the factory atleast 45 seconds later and I'm hard pressed to see a rauder coming out early enough. He probably would've held, but the hellion runby would not have happened and more than 5 scvs would go down.

Edit: Hmm or maybe you are right, ugh assumed it was 13 gas expand, but rethinking it, it ofc must've been either 15 gas or 1rax cc
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 26 2013 16:37 GMT
#2863
On May 27 2013 01:35 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 01:34 Wampaibist wrote:
WHAT DIMAGA WON YeS DIAMAGA WON DIMAGAAA

eum, no he didn't.


Shhhhhhhhh Didn't you see how happy he was?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
May 26 2013 16:37 GMT
#2864
GO FORGG ! for France!!
Ravage the EG murican! vive la liberté !
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 26 2013 16:38 GMT
#2865
On May 27 2013 01:36 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 01:35 Assirra wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:34 Wampaibist wrote:
WHAT DIMAGA WON YeS DIAMAGA WON DIMAGAAA

eum, no he didn't.

Don't.. don't break it. It's the only thing that holds him together now.

but but he must know the truth!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
May 26 2013 16:39 GMT
#2866
On May 27 2013 01:38 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 01:36 Fusilero wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:35 Assirra wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:34 Wampaibist wrote:
WHAT DIMAGA WON YeS DIAMAGA WON DIMAGAAA

eum, no he didn't.

Don't.. don't break it. It's the only thing that holds him together now.

but but he must know the truth!


lol this is actually hilarious.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
May 26 2013 16:39 GMT
#2867
On May 27 2013 01:36 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 01:33 TheDwf wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:31 Zarahtra wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:28 TheDwf wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:24 Zarahtra wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:22 Wildmoon wrote:
How the hell Dimaga managed to beat Mvp 2-0? They don't look even close.

Well game 1 is really the only game you can take to much away from. That game it was decently close. If it was another map, it might've gone either way, but he had difficulty keeping his 4th alive due to map layout.
Game 2 obviously was terrible, guess he just doesn't have much experience with mech. Add ontop of that if you aren't going to be using swarm hosts that map is terrible against mech.
Game 3 was just a build order loss imo. Or well not to take anything away from MVP, he defended perfectly, but I feel dima couldn't really do anything much better than what he did.

Game 1: the game was close while Dimaga had a huge advantage getting away with a hive rush and a solid position.
Game 2: Newkirk isn't a good map at all for mech in TvZ. You can never reach his bases without exposing yourself to horrible flanks. Your mech army is always in a world of pain when marching beyond the middle.
Game 3 had nothing to do with a build order loss. Dimaga tried a gamble and Mvp defended, that's all.

Game 2 I'd argue is about as good as you get for mech(only akkilon better I'd say, again assuming opponent doesn't go SH). Call it good map or not, I don't particularly feel mech is strong, so yeah...
Game 3, well you can hardly deny that a reaper opening would've been much worse against the roach rush. Seeing the prevelance of reaper openings, what I was saying is that I think he was hoping for a reaper opening, else with good defense(and I think dima has enough respect for MVP to expect good defense), it can be held.

A Reaper opening would have been better actually, the Reaper can reliably scout gas mined beyond 100 + lack of second queen and even the Roach Warren if he comes from the right angle, then you get a Bunker and Marauders or a quick Tank and you hold without any trouble.

You do realize that the roaches were hitting basically when the factory finished... A reaper opening would make the factory atleast 45 seconds later and I'm hard pressed to see a rauder coming out early enough. He probably would've held, but the hellion runby would not have happened and more than 5 scvs would go down.

Dimaga arrived at Mvp's natural at 6'45. CC first builds the Factory at 4'25 - 4'30, exactly like Reaper expands.
hillman
Profile Joined February 2012
United States162 Posts
May 26 2013 16:39 GMT
#2868
On May 26 2013 06:51 Derez wrote:
MVP - Stephano finals with MVP winning would be the best thing that could happen as far as I'm concerned .


Yeah I'm sure that's what everyone wants...a fallen Korean coming to Europe to take the title from a foreigner...LOL WTF?
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 26 2013 16:39 GMT
#2869
On May 27 2013 01:37 IshinShishi wrote:
GO FORGG ! for France!!
Ravage the EG murican! vive la liberté !
yeah, ForGG make France proud and defeat that filthy yankee
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
May 26 2013 16:40 GMT
#2870
TLO must feel pretty ok now that he is not the only one who got 3-0ed by Mvp.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 26 2013 16:40 GMT
#2871
On May 27 2013 01:39 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 01:37 IshinShishi wrote:
GO FORGG ! for France!!
Ravage the EG murican! vive la liberté !
yeah, ForGG make France proud and defeat that filthy yankee


This is so weird
AdministratorBreak the chains
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28530 Posts
May 26 2013 16:40 GMT
#2872
If Stephano didn't party too hard yesterday he should win vs ForGG. He's in a bit of a disadvantage vs MVP but I still kinda like his chances. His normal level unit positioning and discission making is a lot better than Dimaga showed.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
May 26 2013 16:40 GMT
#2873
Anyway, whoever wins this, I'll be happy and cheer for him in the final.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 26 2013 16:40 GMT
#2874
On May 27 2013 01:39 hillman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 06:51 Derez wrote:
MVP - Stephano finals with MVP winning would be the best thing that could happen as far as I'm concerned .


Yeah I'm sure that's what everyone wants...a fallen Korean coming to Europe to take the title from a foreigner...LOL WTF?

i really, really want that too, matter of fact it has been my dream final and outcome ever since Grubby was eliminated from the tournament. but i'm not really into fancy vocabulary like "fallen Korean".
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10146 Posts
May 26 2013 16:40 GMT
#2875
On May 27 2013 01:33 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 01:32 figq wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:31 Boucot wrote:
On May 27 2013 01:30 Emzeeshady wrote:
ForGG wants to go to Spain? :p

I'm not sure that the Spanish want him to come :p
regardless, they cannot hold


French-Spain border made of supply depots ?


Andorra would sell us out.
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
May 26 2013 16:41 GMT
#2876
TLO TLO TLO TLO
invisible tetris level master
clementdudu
Profile Joined September 2010
France819 Posts
May 26 2013 16:41 GMT
#2877
On May 27 2013 01:36 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 01:35 Crushinator wrote:
Twitch is dying on me
it died for me when Mvp-Dimaga gained speed
switched down from 720+ to 480 and no problems since then

it's because huge influxes of viewers are joining the fun

switched from 720+ to 240 and still a slideshow
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 26 2013 16:41 GMT
#2878
Where the hell did all those germans come from?!?! O.O
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
yuliuswin1
Profile Joined September 2012
Indonesia36 Posts
May 26 2013 16:42 GMT
#2879
mvp stephano final plzzz
have fun
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
May 26 2013 16:42 GMT
#2880
--- Nuked ---
Prev 1 142 143 144 145 146 357 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 17h 30m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 2248
trigger 119
BRAT_OK 48
CosmosSc2 45
SHIN 44
RushiSC 37
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 2342
Sea 1548
Mini 1359
Horang2 942
Soulkey 738
EffOrt 655
Light 431
BeSt 393
ggaemo 332
hero 223
[ Show more ]
Snow 219
Sharp 108
sorry 72
Aegong 36
Free 29
Rock 24
910 23
Terrorterran 20
Sacsri 20
GoRush 18
soO 9
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
IntoTheRainbow 9
Dota 2
qojqva2359
syndereN450
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
fl0m1721
byalli375
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King117
Other Games
Grubby1966
hiko842
B2W.Neo832
Dendi799
ceh9379
DeMusliM369
KnowMe184
XaKoH 147
Beastyqt104
C9.Mang0100
ArmadaUGS77
QueenE54
Trikslyr49
Dewaltoss33
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream2595
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 24
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix7
• HerbMon 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota241
League of Legends
• TFBlade802
Other Games
• Shiphtur161
• tFFMrPink 13
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
17h 30m
WardiTV Spring Champion…
18h 30m
OSC
20h 30m
OSC
1d 7h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 17h
WardiTV Spring Champion…
1d 18h
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
GSL
2 days
Maru vs ShoWTimE
Classic vs Reynor
herO vs Lambo
Solar vs Clem
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
3 days
XuanXuan vs Jaystar
Mihu vs Messiah
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs Jaystar
TerrOr vs Messiah
XuanXuan vs Mihu
eOnzErG vs Jaystar
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3 days
GSL
3 days
Patches Events
4 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
4 days
Dewalt vs Messiah
Bonyth vs Mihu
TerrOr vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs Messiah
Jaystar vs Mihu
Dewalt vs XuanXuan
Bonyth vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-16
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.