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On May 18 2013 14:33 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 14:28 Whatson wrote:On May 18 2013 14:25 LighT. wrote:On May 18 2013 14:22 Whatson wrote:On May 18 2013 14:20 LighT. wrote:On May 18 2013 14:17 TeslasPigeon wrote:On May 18 2013 14:14 Whatson wrote:On May 18 2013 14:13 Mohdoo wrote:
I seriously don't understand EGTL. They perform so unbelievably bad in proleague. It makes no sense at all. They always look leagues worse than they do in any other environment. Remember GSTL? The level of competition in PL is quite a bit higher than any other team-league they've ever played in. Do you think they could do better in GSTL? I think the number one thing that hurts EGTL is having such a shallow line up. They use the same players constantly, in the nearly same order too. They will always be susceptible to snipes, even especially so in winners format. Wah..they have a deep line up Terran: Taeja/Alive Toss: Hero, JYP, Oz Zerg: Revival, JD, (Snute/Zenio) Also..all proleague teams depths are shalow Look at KT.. Same Flash/Zest/Stats/ ACtion or Crazy-hydra every time Look at Samsung Jangbi/Roro/Stork/Reality every time. Or even STX: Innovation/Hyvaa/(insert 2 STX Toss) all the time. only SKT T1 and Woongjin can boast about depth Let's be honest here. Taeja, HerO, JD are guaranteed, teams know they will be sent out, everybody else is a major step below. Whats your point though.. KT is guaranteed to send: Stats/Flash/Zest SKT T1: Fantasy/Rain/Parting Samsung: Jangbi/Roro/Stork/Reality STX: INnovation/Rain/Trap All teams basically have 3-4 guys guaranteed to play. The difference is the guys that are a step below. On EGTL, who's your next guy after Taeja, HerO, and JD? That player will most likely be weaker than any other guy that gets sent out. For STX..After Dear/Hyvaa/INnovation/Trap, all the guys are a step below...Mini hasnt reached there yet, Last sucks at PL for some reason. For KT, after the core and possibly crazy-hydra, everyone is also step below, Hitman's a big surprise if he wins any games. ACtion has looked terrible transitioning from WoL to HoTS Samsung..doesnt have much to choose from after their starting 4, + Shine. As for EG-TL I think youre underestimating Revival/Oz/Alive, Alive's been quite solid in PL, and there's absolutely no shame in losing vs Innovation and Flash. JYP was one of EG-TL's best performers too. Revival/Oz will come around.
you miss the fact that people like CH, hyvaa, Shine, Trap etc all reach code S. They arent better than say Flash/Bogus but they keep improving over time
meanwhile EGTL ace lost to some random in WCS Code A Round 1
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On May 18 2013 14:38 Arceus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 14:33 LighT. wrote:On May 18 2013 14:28 Whatson wrote:On May 18 2013 14:25 LighT. wrote:On May 18 2013 14:22 Whatson wrote:On May 18 2013 14:20 LighT. wrote:On May 18 2013 14:17 TeslasPigeon wrote:On May 18 2013 14:14 Whatson wrote:On May 18 2013 14:13 Mohdoo wrote:
I seriously don't understand EGTL. They perform so unbelievably bad in proleague. It makes no sense at all. They always look leagues worse than they do in any other environment. Remember GSTL? The level of competition in PL is quite a bit higher than any other team-league they've ever played in. Do you think they could do better in GSTL? I think the number one thing that hurts EGTL is having such a shallow line up. They use the same players constantly, in the nearly same order too. They will always be susceptible to snipes, even especially so in winners format. Wah..they have a deep line up Terran: Taeja/Alive Toss: Hero, JYP, Oz Zerg: Revival, JD, (Snute/Zenio) Also..all proleague teams depths are shalow Look at KT.. Same Flash/Zest/Stats/ ACtion or Crazy-hydra every time Look at Samsung Jangbi/Roro/Stork/Reality every time. Or even STX: Innovation/Hyvaa/(insert 2 STX Toss) all the time. only SKT T1 and Woongjin can boast about depth Let's be honest here. Taeja, HerO, JD are guaranteed, teams know they will be sent out, everybody else is a major step below. Whats your point though.. KT is guaranteed to send: Stats/Flash/Zest SKT T1: Fantasy/Rain/Parting Samsung: Jangbi/Roro/Stork/Reality STX: INnovation/Rain/Trap All teams basically have 3-4 guys guaranteed to play. The difference is the guys that are a step below. On EGTL, who's your next guy after Taeja, HerO, and JD? That player will most likely be weaker than any other guy that gets sent out. For STX..After Dear/Hyvaa/INnovation/Trap, all the guys are a step below...Mini hasnt reached there yet, Last sucks at PL for some reason. For KT, after the core and possibly crazy-hydra, everyone is also step below, Hitman's a big surprise if he wins any games. ACtion has looked terrible transitioning from WoL to HoTS Samsung..doesnt have much to choose from after their starting 4, + Shine. As for EG-TL I think youre underestimating Revival/Oz/Alive, Alive's been quite solid in PL, and there's absolutely no shame in losing vs Innovation and Flash. JYP was one of EG-TL's best performers too. Revival/Oz will come around. you miss the fact that people like CH, hyvaa, Shine, Trap etc all reach code S. They arent better than say Flash/Bogus but they keep improving over time meanwhile EGTL ace lost to some random in WCS Code A Round 1
In IPLTAC, Taeja could carry Liquid by either all-killing or 4-killing and the rest of TL would find a way to scratch out a win. That's not the case right now, because there are players on each team that are either on an equal level or better than him.
In fact, Taeja couldn't even carry the team in GSTL, because snipers got sent out and killed him and it turns out that besides HerO, everybody else on TL was a big step below the regular Koreans.
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just so you guys know, the proleague teams are well rounded while EG-TL is not. they actually have bad players with only 3 decent ones(even amazing bonjwa level players lose in proleague consistently).
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On May 18 2013 14:28 RKC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 14:27 NicksonReyes wrote:On May 18 2013 14:23 BisuDagger wrote:On May 18 2013 14:16 NicksonReyes wrote:
So, so far this round, KT has won 16 games. 8 from Wooki, 7 from Flash and 1 from Stats. Halfway through the round, they haven't sent out anyone other than Flash and Wooki yet except in their first match where Stats was KT's starter. The funny part is KT is still not a very strong team. Round 6 will send them back down the rankings. They're just hiding how much the rest of the team is improving in HotS right now. They're just hiding the fact that Flash and Wooki are actually their 2 worst players. I've been told, many times in the forums, that come playoffs, KT Zergs will rise and pwn all...
Right, and Woongjin Terrans will dominate at the same time.
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On May 18 2013 15:07 jellyjello wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 14:28 RKC wrote:On May 18 2013 14:27 NicksonReyes wrote:On May 18 2013 14:23 BisuDagger wrote:On May 18 2013 14:16 NicksonReyes wrote:
So, so far this round, KT has won 16 games. 8 from Wooki, 7 from Flash and 1 from Stats. Halfway through the round, they haven't sent out anyone other than Flash and Wooki yet except in their first match where Stats was KT's starter. The funny part is KT is still not a very strong team. Round 6 will send them back down the rankings. They're just hiding how much the rest of the team is improving in HotS right now. They're just hiding the fact that Flash and Wooki are actually their 2 worst players. I've been told, many times in the forums, that come playoffs, KT Zergs will rise and pwn all... Right, and Woongjin Terrans will dominate at the same time.
KT playoffs zergs is a thing... Multiple times they carried KT into the finals, when stats and flash were LOSING. All the way up to the finals against SKT in the last BW SPL, ALL of KT's zergs won against opponents that you would consider superior. Action Hoejja Crazy-Hydra Perfective going nearly perfect records. It was insane.
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On May 18 2013 15:33 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 15:07 jellyjello wrote:On May 18 2013 14:28 RKC wrote:On May 18 2013 14:27 NicksonReyes wrote:On May 18 2013 14:23 BisuDagger wrote:On May 18 2013 14:16 NicksonReyes wrote:
So, so far this round, KT has won 16 games. 8 from Wooki, 7 from Flash and 1 from Stats. Halfway through the round, they haven't sent out anyone other than Flash and Wooki yet except in their first match where Stats was KT's starter. The funny part is KT is still not a very strong team. Round 6 will send them back down the rankings. They're just hiding how much the rest of the team is improving in HotS right now. They're just hiding the fact that Flash and Wooki are actually their 2 worst players. I've been told, many times in the forums, that come playoffs, KT Zergs will rise and pwn all... Right, and Woongjin Terrans will dominate at the same time. KT playoffs zergs is a thing... Multiple times they carried KT into the finals, when stats and flash were LOSING. All the way up to the finals against SKT in the last BW SPL, ALL of KT's zergs won against opponents that you would consider superior. Action Hoejja Crazy-Hydra Perfective going nearly perfect records. It was insane.
Hoejja is still currently on something like 6-playoffs-win streak. 
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So the best EG-TL can do at this point is 21-21 with a +4 map score, and that's if they all-kill/sweep every remaining match. It would be a miracle indeed to make the playoffs...
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Congratulations to all those folks who picked Flash/Zest on their mains! Really lucrative.
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Plz JaeDong leave EG or u will never improve. I wanna see the true tirant 
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Couldn't watch this. I'm happy HerO took out Flash at least
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Yay for HerO! Definitely one of EGTL's most consistent performers at the moment.
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nooooooooooo
no flash all kill 
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Sad performance yet again from EG-TL. When is this nightmare gonna end?
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United Kingdom12024 Posts
FLash vs Taeja is one of the most exciting TvTs I've ever seen in SC2. This is why mech vs mech is better than anything with bio in it.
Them siege lines by Flash! <3
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Nice games in the series, except the final one was a bit of a butcher Such a shame to see Jaedong get dominated by protosses so often. Would be good if they could use him as a vZ sniper, but that's just not possible when the rest of the team can't win their games. HerO looked good though, and Taeja wasn't bad either. Flash/Wookie are just really strong at the moment.
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Well, I guess not getting 4-0'd is a progress itself.
Also, to the people wondering about KT zergs... Just wait for playoffs and witness the impossible. :D
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Sick banner, too bad KT Rolster is on fire. Zest and Flash are dope as shit in this round ^^
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TLADT24920 Posts
ouch, didn't think they'll get 4-1 Oo;
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On May 18 2013 19:51 BigFan wrote:
ouch, didn't think they'll get 4-1 Oo;
After they 4-0ed them 3 times?
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EPT
