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Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 17:23:40
May 18 2013 17:22 GMT
#841
On May 19 2013 02:19 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 02:10 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 19 2013 01:49 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 19 2013 01:46 StarStruck wrote:
Some people cannot take a joke. ;/

Sometimes it is hard to tell if people are joking or they are just stupid.

I find this quite difficult over the internet because I can't see their face. It helps if you include a :p if you are joking.


That ruins all the fun of it though.

Its ok, I already know you're stupid.


This is allowed on TL? Personal attack is worse than stupid, I'm an innocent stupid man, you are a jackass trying to pretend to be smart. I thought you won't watch joke proleague, why are you in this thread anyway?

User was warned for this post
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
May 18 2013 17:23 GMT
#842
--- Nuked ---
Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 17:27:09
May 18 2013 17:25 GMT
#843
On May 19 2013 02:23 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 02:22 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:19 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:10 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 19 2013 01:49 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 19 2013 01:46 StarStruck wrote:
Some people cannot take a joke. ;/

Sometimes it is hard to tell if people are joking or they are just stupid.

I find this quite difficult over the internet because I can't see their face. It helps if you include a :p if you are joking.


That ruins all the fun of it though.

Its ok, I already know you're stupid.


This is allowed on TL? Personal attack is worse than stupid, I'm an innocent stupid man, you are a jackass trying to pretend to be smart.

You troll almost every thread you go into. I suppose stupid is the wrong word. I apologize.


I accept your apologize, and plz keep in mind, different opinion doesn't mean troll, I just came from a different place, and I happen to be much older than you guys, so different opinion is a given.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
May 18 2013 17:30 GMT
#844
--- Nuked ---
Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 17:35:21
May 18 2013 17:35 GMT
#845
On May 19 2013 02:30 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 02:25 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:23 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:22 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:19 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:10 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 19 2013 01:49 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 19 2013 01:46 StarStruck wrote:
Some people cannot take a joke. ;/

Sometimes it is hard to tell if people are joking or they are just stupid.

I find this quite difficult over the internet because I can't see their face. It helps if you include a :p if you are joking.


That ruins all the fun of it though.

Its ok, I already know you're stupid.


This is allowed on TL? Personal attack is worse than stupid, I'm an innocent stupid man, you are a jackass trying to pretend to be smart.

You troll almost every thread you go into. I suppose stupid is the wrong word. I apologize.


I accept your apologize, and plz keep in mind, different opinion doesn't mean troll, I just came from a different place, and I happen to be much older than you guys, so different opinion is a given.

I don't want to get off topic here but posts like these really make me think you are a huge troll. Unless you are joking in which case i suppose your sense of humour eludes me.




Show nested quote +
On May 15 2013 04:51 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 15 2013 04:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 15 2013 04:04 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 15 2013 03:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 15 2013 03:14 Wombat_NI wrote:
On May 15 2013 01:45 Sadness wrote:
Hello everyone, sorry for being late

- Elephant in the room

No, just no.

the real elephant in the room is that no one remembers what the article said they just want to reference it whenever kespa wins.


Looks like you clearly don't know what the article means.

It said the top BW players would dominate SC2. not 44% win rate sHy and 50% win rate RorO while Bisu, Jangbi, Fantasy, Jaedong, etc dont compete for titles lol


Exactly, you missed the point. Even Hyuk is a middle weight elephant, let alone roro. Elephants don't go solo, they come in herds.




I watched BW proleague regularly for over 6 years, 30% winrate players in my book is an average player, and 50% winrate players is an Ace player, which could be close to being a legend. That's just my opinion. Why do you think Hyuk can get the coach job in SKT, cause he's much awesome than average players.
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
May 18 2013 18:03 GMT
#846
Wow, another loss for EGTL. Is this the first time Jaedong's not going to be playing in the playoffs?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 18 2013 18:14 GMT
#847
On May 19 2013 02:35 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 02:30 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:25 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:23 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:22 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:19 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:10 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 19 2013 01:49 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 19 2013 01:46 StarStruck wrote:
Some people cannot take a joke. ;/

Sometimes it is hard to tell if people are joking or they are just stupid.

I find this quite difficult over the internet because I can't see their face. It helps if you include a :p if you are joking.


That ruins all the fun of it though.

Its ok, I already know you're stupid.


This is allowed on TL? Personal attack is worse than stupid, I'm an innocent stupid man, you are a jackass trying to pretend to be smart.

You troll almost every thread you go into. I suppose stupid is the wrong word. I apologize.


I accept your apologize, and plz keep in mind, different opinion doesn't mean troll, I just came from a different place, and I happen to be much older than you guys, so different opinion is a given.

I don't want to get off topic here but posts like these really make me think you are a huge troll. Unless you are joking in which case i suppose your sense of humour eludes me.




On May 15 2013 04:51 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 15 2013 04:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 15 2013 04:04 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 15 2013 03:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 15 2013 03:14 Wombat_NI wrote:
On May 15 2013 01:45 Sadness wrote:
Hello everyone, sorry for being late

- Elephant in the room

No, just no.

the real elephant in the room is that no one remembers what the article said they just want to reference it whenever kespa wins.


Looks like you clearly don't know what the article means.

It said the top BW players would dominate SC2. not 44% win rate sHy and 50% win rate RorO while Bisu, Jangbi, Fantasy, Jaedong, etc dont compete for titles lol


Exactly, you missed the point. Even Hyuk is a middle weight elephant, let alone roro. Elephants don't go solo, they come in herds.




I watched BW proleague regularly for over 6 years, 30% winrate players in my book is an average player, and 50% winrate players is an Ace player, which could be close to being a legend. That's just my opinion. Why do you think Hyuk can get the coach job in SKT, cause he's much awesome than average players.


You can be a horrible player and an excellent coach, and vice versa. I don't doubt that Hyuk is a good coach (and I know he had a few moments of greatness in BW as a player as well), but that doesn't mean he'd necessarily be competing for GSLs.
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ducken
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia63 Posts
May 18 2013 18:21 GMT
#848
I wonder if boxer is a good coach. Part of me wants to believe he spends all of his time just telling players to try crazy strategies.
HystericaLaughter
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia720 Posts
May 18 2013 18:45 GMT
#849
Disappointing result for EG-TL. But it's very hard when you need to throw the strongest 3 players on your line-up at Flash all at once in order to take him out.
My wife for hire! - Zealot
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
May 18 2013 19:08 GMT
#850
Wow that wooki vs Hero was such a high level pvp.. reminds me of

Squirtle vs Hero in ro4 GSL season 2.........
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
May 18 2013 19:13 GMT
#851
On May 19 2013 02:35 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 02:30 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:25 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:23 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:22 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:19 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:10 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 19 2013 01:49 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 19 2013 01:46 StarStruck wrote:
Some people cannot take a joke. ;/

Sometimes it is hard to tell if people are joking or they are just stupid.

I find this quite difficult over the internet because I can't see their face. It helps if you include a :p if you are joking.


That ruins all the fun of it though.

Its ok, I already know you're stupid.


This is allowed on TL? Personal attack is worse than stupid, I'm an innocent stupid man, you are a jackass trying to pretend to be smart.

You troll almost every thread you go into. I suppose stupid is the wrong word. I apologize.


I accept your apologize, and plz keep in mind, different opinion doesn't mean troll, I just came from a different place, and I happen to be much older than you guys, so different opinion is a given.

I don't want to get off topic here but posts like these really make me think you are a huge troll. Unless you are joking in which case i suppose your sense of humour eludes me.




On May 15 2013 04:51 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 15 2013 04:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 15 2013 04:04 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 15 2013 03:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 15 2013 03:14 Wombat_NI wrote:
On May 15 2013 01:45 Sadness wrote:
Hello everyone, sorry for being late

- Elephant in the room

No, just no.

the real elephant in the room is that no one remembers what the article said they just want to reference it whenever kespa wins.


Looks like you clearly don't know what the article means.

It said the top BW players would dominate SC2. not 44% win rate sHy and 50% win rate RorO while Bisu, Jangbi, Fantasy, Jaedong, etc dont compete for titles lol


Exactly, you missed the point. Even Hyuk is a middle weight elephant, let alone roro. Elephants don't go solo, they come in herds.




I watched BW proleague regularly for over 6 years, 30% winrate players in my book is an average player, and 50% winrate players is an Ace player, which could be close to being a legend. That's just my opinion. Why do you think Hyuk can get the coach job in SKT, cause he's much awesome than average players.

It depends on what "awesome" is.
If you mean skilled. No. He's far worse than most of the A-teamers on SKT T1.
30% is NOT an average player, thats a below average player. You are entitled to an opinion however your voice is a very minisecule one...such that I'm unsure if anyone else holds similar views. Right now, what is ace player at the moment is: ~high 50%+, the Proleague stats indicate exactly that, the mid tier being mid 40% -mid 50%.

Hyuk is a captain because he's one of, if not the oldest (havent checked the ages exactly). Korean tradition. Oldest always gets the leadership role, unless you are an exceptional player that can't be discounted (ie. Jaedong). He can get coach because of his loyal services with the SKT, (loyalty is awarded far more in korea), and although his skill may not reflect much, he may still possess a brilliant mind (ie Nestea) with just not the right mechanics to back it up. RIght now what I see is a lot of players who are unable to compete with the high level players, and dropping off, receiving that captain role.
(Ie. Hoejja, Calm, Hyuk, Leta) one of the few exceptions being ZerO., their role is to retain moral of the team and act like a model citizen.

Also, you guys should refrain from personal attacks.

Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3511 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 19:20:58
May 18 2013 19:19 GMT
#852
I think LighT hit the nail on the head as far as the 'player coach' role goes.

Never forget:

Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 19:28:55
May 18 2013 19:24 GMT
#853
On May 19 2013 04:13 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 02:35 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:30 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:25 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:23 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:22 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:19 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 19 2013 02:10 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 19 2013 01:49 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 19 2013 01:46 StarStruck wrote:
Some people cannot take a joke. ;/

Sometimes it is hard to tell if people are joking or they are just stupid.

I find this quite difficult over the internet because I can't see their face. It helps if you include a :p if you are joking.


That ruins all the fun of it though.

Its ok, I already know you're stupid.


This is allowed on TL? Personal attack is worse than stupid, I'm an innocent stupid man, you are a jackass trying to pretend to be smart.

You troll almost every thread you go into. I suppose stupid is the wrong word. I apologize.


I accept your apologize, and plz keep in mind, different opinion doesn't mean troll, I just came from a different place, and I happen to be much older than you guys, so different opinion is a given.

I don't want to get off topic here but posts like these really make me think you are a huge troll. Unless you are joking in which case i suppose your sense of humour eludes me.




On May 15 2013 04:51 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 15 2013 04:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 15 2013 04:04 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 15 2013 03:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 15 2013 03:14 Wombat_NI wrote:
On May 15 2013 01:45 Sadness wrote:
Hello everyone, sorry for being late

- Elephant in the room

No, just no.

the real elephant in the room is that no one remembers what the article said they just want to reference it whenever kespa wins.


Looks like you clearly don't know what the article means.

It said the top BW players would dominate SC2. not 44% win rate sHy and 50% win rate RorO while Bisu, Jangbi, Fantasy, Jaedong, etc dont compete for titles lol


Exactly, you missed the point. Even Hyuk is a middle weight elephant, let alone roro. Elephants don't go solo, they come in herds.




I watched BW proleague regularly for over 6 years, 30% winrate players in my book is an average player, and 50% winrate players is an Ace player, which could be close to being a legend. That's just my opinion. Why do you think Hyuk can get the coach job in SKT, cause he's much awesome than average players.

It depends on what "awesome" is.
If you mean skilled. No. He's far worse than most of the A-teamers on SKT T1.
30% is NOT an average player, thats a below average player. You are entitled to an opinion however your voice is a very minisecule one...such that I'm unsure if anyone else holds similar views. Right now, what is ace player at the moment is: ~high 50%+, the Proleague stats indicate exactly that, the mid tier being mid 40% -mid 50%.

Hyuk is a captain because he's one of, if not the oldest (havent checked the ages exactly). Korean tradition. Oldest always gets the leadership role, unless you are an exceptional player that can't be discounted (ie. Jaedong). He can get coach because of his loyal services with the SKT, (loyalty is awarded far more in korea), and although his skill may not reflect much, he may still possess a brilliant mind (ie Nestea) with just not the right mechanics to back it up. RIght now what I see is a lot of players who are unable to compete with the high level players, and dropping off, receiving that captain role.
(Ie. Hoejja, Calm, Hyuk, Leta) one of the few exceptions being ZerO., their role is to retain moral of the team and act like a model citizen.

Also, you guys should refrain from personal attacks.



An average players gets less than 50% winrate is because below average players are sent out very rarely, so the average players will face legends and above average players much more often than below average players, they will definitely get a less than 50% winrate.

My rule is if the player gets sent out regularly, then he's an above average player, unless he possess some kind of horrible record.

And the reason they are old progamers is because they are good enough to be old progamers. Those below average players are all washed out when they were young.

ChoDing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States740 Posts
May 18 2013 19:33 GMT
#854
Zest vs HerO

that is some high lvl pvp
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10410 Posts
May 18 2013 21:10 GMT
#855
On May 19 2013 04:19 Gescom wrote:
I think LighT hit the nail on the head as far as the 'player coach' role goes.

Never forget:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlunYXyatho&list=PL2B473A7B7EE3ABF9

O MY GOD THIS SERIES DUDE NEVER FORGET THE TIME HYUK ALL KILLED! xD cholera's commentary still legendary today.
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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
May 18 2013 21:16 GMT
#856
On May 19 2013 03:21 ducken wrote:
I wonder if boxer is a good coach. Part of me wants to believe he spends all of his time just telling players to try crazy strategies.


Nah that's what qxc would do if he was a coach
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larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
May 18 2013 21:33 GMT
#857
EG-TL already has no chance to get into the playoffs?

I'm not sure about the math here, but I was told that EG-TL already has no chance to get into the playoffs.

EG-TL has 10 matches ahead. Even if they win all of them, they will have a standing of 21-21. I think in all SPL, getting into the playoffs can only be case when you have at least one win more than losses. I don't know the math here but it seems like the case.
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
May 18 2013 21:37 GMT
#858
On May 19 2013 06:10 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 04:19 Gescom wrote:
I think LighT hit the nail on the head as far as the 'player coach' role goes.

Never forget:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlunYXyatho&list=PL2B473A7B7EE3ABF9

O MY GOD THIS SERIES DUDE NEVER FORGET THE TIME HYUK ALL KILLED! xD cholera's commentary still legendary today.

Best moment of my life.

Every night before I fall asleep, I imagine the day when he returns as a player and Hyuks us all.
CORN GIRL + Flash + FanTaSy + CholeraSC + iNcontroL 4 eva <3
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 18 2013 22:29 GMT
#859
On May 19 2013 06:33 larse wrote:
EG-TL already has no chance to get into the playoffs?

I'm not sure about the math here, but I was told that EG-TL already has no chance to get into the playoffs.

EG-TL has 10 matches ahead. Even if they win all of them, they will have a standing of 21-21. I think in all SPL, getting into the playoffs can only be case when you have at least one win more than losses. I don't know the math here but it seems like the case.


I think it may still be theoretically possible, because if they go 4-0 in their next ten matches, they'll have a positive map score. But hoping for that is like hoping to win the lottery. I think EG TL should just try to avoid getting last place and get 7th in the final standings. They'd lose slightly less face that way
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
May 18 2013 23:23 GMT
#860
Flash and Wooki are all KT needs these days.
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