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Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
May 05 2013 09:09 GMT
#641
Innovation simply the greatest player that has ever touched sc2
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
KoRStarvid
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden767 Posts
May 05 2013 09:13 GMT
#642
Innovation good, yeah. EGTL need Jaedong in tyrant mode. Or Taeja with healthy wrists.
Ammoth
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden391 Posts
May 05 2013 09:14 GMT
#643
Why arn't the VODs working? or am I to stupid to find them?
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
May 05 2013 09:16 GMT
#644
On May 05 2013 09:53 Entirety wrote:
Predictions
HerO < INnoVation
TaeJa < INnoVation
Jaedong < INnoVation
aLive < INnoVation

EG-TL 0 - 4 STX SouL

Going 4-1 in the Group of Death (2-0 vs. Life) certainly adds a fair chunk to your credibility.

This guy came from the future.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
May 05 2013 09:17 GMT
#645
I know it's been said a few times already but just to put some numbers to it, Innovation (Bogus in BW) held a near 60% winrate in TvP and TvZ, and a TvT just a notch below 50%. He also had two back to back 3-kills in 2010 winners league, against CJ and KT, only to have his potential KT allkill stopped by Flash. He was evenly matched if not favoured against pretty much every Protoss except for maybe inform Stork and Best. His TvZ was kinda random but on a good day, he could matchup to the likes of Jaedong and Effort very convincingly. His TvT while not impressive was never bad to the point of a facepalm either, and he was clearly a developing player (especially in TvT) who would achieve even better results in a year or two.

His major weakness was individual leagues, be it nerves or wrong preparation, who knows (being on STX probably didn't help either), but he was a very good, A-tier pro who probably could have bloomed into a real S-class ace on a better team and with a bit more time. He is very similar to Soulkey in many ways, and its not at all surprising to see both of them do so well, even though neither was a big star in BW.
mechengineer123
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine711 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-05 09:41:20
May 05 2013 09:37 GMT
#646
hell yeah, innovation

edit: oh im currently rank 1 FPL, maybe i should do an AMA on reddit
warmus
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom196 Posts
May 05 2013 09:37 GMT
#647
On May 05 2013 17:46 Whiplash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 17:41 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 05 2013 17:36 TAMinator wrote:
I dont think people understand how good sOs is in here. He beat Innovation in a tournament very recently already (and beat Life in the finals). The GSL is definetely between sOs and Innovation

Hes just the Protoss flavour of the month. The best Protoss player changes every couple of weeks. I think it is cause there is a lot more luck involved in Protoss matches.


ROFL are you serious? sOs has been dominating proleague the entire season and showing solid gsl results for months.


Dont worry whiplash, emzeeshady has a tendency to make posts which are just wrong, but are not trolling, i think the right term here is, "he is trying to be edgy".
gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
May 05 2013 09:44 GMT
#648
On May 05 2013 18:07 JJH777 wrote:
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On May 05 2013 17:58 FakeDeath wrote:
On May 05 2013 17:55 Bagi wrote:
On May 05 2013 17:37 Wombat_NI wrote:
Widowmines are obnoxious as hell. They've killed off marine/tank completely, which I really prefer to watch

It's not just widow mines, vipers also play a big part to why we don't see tanks any more unless the terran is going pure mech.


Funny thing is that Tanks are becoming the WOL Hydra now.lol



Wow they are. Only used in mirror matches or weird all-ins. That's exactly what the Hydra was.

So... tanks need a speed upgrade?
oGsTrueSmug
Profile Joined September 2012
England141 Posts
May 05 2013 09:51 GMT
#649
On May 05 2013 18:44 gedatsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 18:07 JJH777 wrote:
On May 05 2013 17:58 FakeDeath wrote:
On May 05 2013 17:55 Bagi wrote:
On May 05 2013 17:37 Wombat_NI wrote:
Widowmines are obnoxious as hell. They've killed off marine/tank completely, which I really prefer to watch

It's not just widow mines, vipers also play a big part to why we don't see tanks any more unless the terran is going pure mech.


Funny thing is that Tanks are becoming the WOL Hydra now.lol



Wow they are. Only used in mirror matches or weird all-ins. That's exactly what the Hydra was.

So... tanks need a speed upgrade?

And a researchable range upgrade. Obviously.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
May 05 2013 09:52 GMT
#650
On May 05 2013 18:44 gedatsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 18:07 JJH777 wrote:
On May 05 2013 17:58 FakeDeath wrote:
On May 05 2013 17:55 Bagi wrote:
On May 05 2013 17:37 Wombat_NI wrote:
Widowmines are obnoxious as hell. They've killed off marine/tank completely, which I really prefer to watch

It's not just widow mines, vipers also play a big part to why we don't see tanks any more unless the terran is going pure mech.


Funny thing is that Tanks are becoming the WOL Hydra now.lol



Wow they are. Only used in mirror matches or weird all-ins. That's exactly what the Hydra was.

So... tanks need a speed upgrade?

nah, they need an upgrade that allows them to use the siege mode attack while moving.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
mechengineer123
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine711 Posts
May 05 2013 09:54 GMT
#651
On May 05 2013 17:37 Wombat_NI wrote:
Widowmines are obnoxious as hell. They've killed off marine/tank completely, which I really prefer to watch

Even without widow mines, tanks are just trash. You can use them to defend a greedy expo or allin, but that's usually about it. The maps are huge nowadays. So if you try to move out with tanks, zerg just fights you, reinforces faster and kills off all the tanks, if there are any remaining. Flanking is easy on almost every map now as well, in which case zerg just crushes even supply battles. I would say tanks are still playable on a map like Planet S, though.
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-05 09:59:12
May 05 2013 09:58 GMT
#652
On May 05 2013 18:54 mechengineer123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 17:37 Wombat_NI wrote:
Widowmines are obnoxious as hell. They've killed off marine/tank completely, which I really prefer to watch

Even without widow mines, tanks are just trash. You can use them to defend a greedy expo or allin, but that's usually about it. The maps are huge nowadays. So if you try to move out with tanks, zerg just fights you, reinforces faster and kills off all the tanks, if there are any remaining. Flanking is easy on almost every map now as well, in which case zerg just crushes even supply battles. I would say tanks are still playable on a map like Planet S, though.


Yeah bigger and wider maps also play part in the tanks downfall, among other things. They are pretty much the Hydralisk equivalent in HotS.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9021 Posts
May 05 2013 09:58 GMT
#653
Sorry Innovation for doubting you.
pindleskin
Profile Joined January 2008
New Zealand199 Posts
May 05 2013 09:59 GMT
#654
Man, I remember before Major joined team 8... He used to go about how Innovation was the best terran in the world, better than flash. At the time I was just like meh.....

Fast forward 7 months = O_O
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 05 2013 10:03 GMT
#655
You're quite decent at this game, I'll give you that, Innovation.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
May 05 2013 10:08 GMT
#656
Yeah INnoVatioN ! Lead my FPL through the roof ! ^_^
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 05 2013 10:29 GMT
#657
Fuck yeah innovation!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
May 05 2013 10:31 GMT
#658
bogus giving me free points.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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PyroN
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden53 Posts
May 05 2013 10:32 GMT
#659
Why doesn´t the vod works? can someone upload or link them? Can´t miss this inhuman beast playing!
"That trade didn´t went good for huk,I Mean look at the supply depots now" - Copa América Caster
Sevredol
Profile Joined March 2013
New Zealand30 Posts
May 05 2013 10:35 GMT
#660
Wow calm down Innovation.

Tanks need to have their sight increased by 1
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