EPTOn May 05 2013 17:05 Type|NarutO wrote:
Yes, its uZZZer and he was already very good in WoL
Yes, its uZZZer and he was already very good in WoL
Make me think of MiStrZZZ the polish P in broodwar who was super bm asshole lol
[WCS EU] Challenger League Qualifiers - Page 29
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SayTT
Sweden2158 Posts
Make me think of MiStrZZZ the polish P in broodwar who was super bm asshole lol | ||
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madals
United Kingdom624 Posts
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Dvriel
607 Posts
Why the first round is called "Round of 40" if there are only 32 players? Why the second is "Round of 24" if there are only 16 players(16 winners from Round 1 Challenger)? | ||
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grs
Germany2339 Posts
On May 05 2013 20:36 Dvriel wrote: I am very confused.I am checking and rechecking the Challenger Format and still cant understand it: Why the first round is called "Round of 40" if there are only 32 players? Why the second is "Round of 24" if there are only 16 players(16 winners from Round 1 Challenger)? Because there are 40 players. 8 more will drop from premium in the 2nd group stage. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_Europe/Challenger | ||
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mikkmagro
Malta1513 Posts
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grs
Germany2339 Posts
On May 05 2013 20:43 mikkmagro wrote: ... Still no XiGua IIrc, it was mentioned yesterday that he will not compete in EU anymore due to the lag and will try to qualify on AM next season. | ||
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Dvriel
607 Posts
On May 05 2013 20:41 grs wrote: Because there are 40 players. 8 more will drop from premium in the 2nd group stage. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_Europe/Challenger That is exactly what I was thinking,but still think its impossible to mix in Round of 40 players dropped from Ro 32 and Ro 24 with players from Ro16.Its not fair.This is not the worst: check this link and tell me what do you think.I count and recount the brackets and there are only 8x4=32 into 8x2=16 into 8+8 from Ro16 Premier players.Still dont understand where are they going to take players from to build the group stage with 32 players. Check this: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_Europe/Challenger Bottom is the Bracket for the Bracket stage... | ||
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grs
Germany2339 Posts
On May 05 2013 20:49 Dvriel wrote: That is exactly what I was thinking,but still think its impossible to mix in Round of 40 players dropped from Ro 32 and Ro 24 with players from Ro16.Its not fair.This is not the worst: check this link and tell me what do you think.I count and recount the brackets and there are only 8x4=32 into 8x2=16 into 8+8 from Ro16 Premier players.Still dont understand where are they going to take players from to build the group stage with 32 players. Check this: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_Europe/Challenger Bottom is the Bracket for the Bracket stage... It starts with 8 brackets of 4 players = 32 In the third round 8 more players are added from r2 premium = 8 32 + 8 = 40 Edit: I'll try to explain it with a picture from one of 8 brackets. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Eo4UdRm.jpg) | ||
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VyingsP
France174 Posts
On May 05 2013 20:49 Dvriel wrote: That is exactly what I was thinking,but still think its impossible to mix in Round of 40 players dropped from Ro 32 and Ro 24 with players from Ro16.Its not fair.This is not the worst: check this link and tell me what do you think.I count and recount the brackets and there are only 8x4=32 into 8x2=16 into 8+8 from Ro16 Premier players.Still dont understand where are they going to take players from to build the group stage with 32 players. Check this: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_Europe/Challenger Bottom is the Bracket for the Bracket stage... The way I understand it is : ro40 is the 32 players from round 1 + 8 players from round 3 (aka : there are 40 players left in the bracket, even though 8 of them are not known yet) ro24 is the 16 players who won in round 1 and reached round 2 + 8 players from round 3 (aka : 24 players left) ro16 is self explanatory As for the bracket, I'm guessing the 32 people who did not win in round 3 get a spot in the "up and downs". | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On May 05 2013 20:46 grs wrote: IIrc, it was mentioned yesterday that he will not compete in EU anymore due to the lag and will try to qualify on AM next season. Would participating in EU season 1 lock him there for season 2 or are you free to switch in between? He made it to Ro8, Ro32 and Ro16 in the premier qualifier after all, and laggy games is better than no games at all, I think. | ||
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grs
Germany2339 Posts
On May 05 2013 20:56 AlternativeEgo wrote: Would participating in EU season 1 lock him there for season 2 or are you free to switch in between? He made it to Ro8, Ro32 and Ro16 in the premier qualifier after all, and laggy games is better than no games at all, I think. From https://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/8569308646 (1st paragraph) Can players change their World Championship Series region at any point during the year? For the 2013 World Championship Series only, there will be an optional, one-time region change between Season 1 and Season 2. Players who would like to compete in another region in Season 2 will need to play in the Season 1 Qualifier and Challenger Division of the region they are looking to switch to. This will essentially mean that there will be players finishing their Season 1 commitments in their current region, while establishing their position in a new region.Any requests for exceptions must be submitted to Blizzard and will be considered. | ||
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StarsChild
Italy9 Posts
edit: nvm, found here http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_europe2 | ||
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Dvriel
607 Posts
On May 05 2013 20:52 grs wrote: It starts with 8 brackets of 4 players = 32 In the third round 8 more players are added from r2 premium = 8 32 + 8 = 40 Edit: I'll try to explain it with a picture from one of 8 brackets. Ok.I can see this,but still no sense.Why call the First round "40" if there are only 32 players in the first brackets? Only 16 will advace to round 2,the supposed "RO24".The winners from here are 8 of 16 and they go to the third and LAST round of another 16 players which are the 8 winners from round 2(Ro24) and the 8 players who got eliminated from the Group stage of 16 in the Premier. This is not all!!! After round 3 in Challenger the losers are going into Group stage of 8 groups with 4 players.8 from Rouns 3,8 from Round 2 and 16 from Round 1= 32 players needed for a Stage Group of 8 Groups with 4 players.Still cant see the logic of calling it RO40 and Ro24. In Korea it is much easier: RO48 into RO32(24 RO48 winners+8 RO32 CODE S losers) into RO 24(16 RO32 CODE A winners+8 CODE S RO16 losers). | ||
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AxiR
Germany944 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On May 05 2013 21:06 Dvriel wrote: Ok.I can see this,but still no sense.Why call the First round "40" if there are only 32 players in the first brackets? Only 16 will advace to round 2,the supposed "RO24".The winners from here are 8 of 16 and they go to the third and LAST round of another 16 players which are the 8 winners from round 2(Ro24) and the 8 players who got eliminated from the Group stage of 16 in the Premier. This is not all!!! After round 3 in Challenger the losers are going into Group stage of 8 groups with 4 players.8 from Rouns 3,8 from Round 2 and 16 from Round 1= 32 players needed for a Stage Group of 8 Groups with 4 players.Still cant see the logic of calling it RO40 and Ro24. In Korea it is much easier: RO48 into RO32(24 RO48 winners+8 RO32 CODE S losers) into RO 24(16 RO32 CODE A winners+8 CODE S RO16 losers). I think it's just a mistake like you said. It should be Ro32 -> Ro24 -> Ro16 | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
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ibo422
Belgium2844 Posts
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VyingsP
France174 Posts
On May 05 2013 21:08 Shellshock1122 wrote: I think it's just a mistake like you said. It should be Ro32 -> Ro24 -> Ro16 By that logic it should be : Ro32 -> Ro16 -> Ro16 which is why I guess that change was made | ||
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Roman666
Poland1440 Posts
On May 05 2013 21:08 Shellshock1122 wrote: I think it's just a mistake like you said. It should be Ro32 -> Ro24 -> Ro16 By that logic it should be Ro32 -> Ro16 -> Ro16. EDIT: Previous post :D | ||
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grs
Germany2339 Posts
On May 05 2013 21:08 Shellshock1122 wrote: I think it's just a mistake like you said. It should be Ro32 -> Ro24 -> Ro16 It is just semantics I guess, but Ro40 is imho semantically correct, because there are 40 players left in that round, even if 8 of them are seeded into a later round. If you have a Ro64 bracket with walkovers for 8 seeded people (seeds 1-8) you would not call it a round of 56, would you? | ||
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