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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 22 2013 00:19 GMT
#4801
On April 22 2013 09:12 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:11 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:08 Redox wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:06 rasnj wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:03 jalen wrote:
OK, MLG have its strict rules, so please DQ crank. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408976

Actually their rules are not strict just very flexible. Any minor violation has the phrase "may result in disqualification" which means "we do whatever the hell we want". MLG doesn't care about having comm at their tourny so they DQ, but Crank is a fan-favorite and TB+reddit+TL would raise hell if he was DQ'ed so they won't DQ him for anything less than blatant cheating (not that I think he deserves a ban, but neither did comm really).

Still its different as you say, so its unfair to suggest this different treatment if it never happened. For all we know Crank would get DQ as well if he played on a different MLG account.

I am 100% he would be DQed if he played under someone else's account. And TB would beat him with that top hat until Crank apologized for being an idiot for doing so. I don't get these people who are arguing that people should be able to use multiple accounts to try out for WCS.


He did not "use multiple accounts", please stop spouting this bullshit.

Im sorry. He used someone elses account when he realized he couldn't get in, that didn't have his name on it. It would have been a real funny live event when he had to tell them he wasn't the person that signed up.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
April 22 2013 00:20 GMT
#4802
Teamliquid will soon be banned from covering MLG-ran tournaments for spoiling results
Branman
Profile Joined March 2013
United States203 Posts
April 22 2013 00:20 GMT
#4803
I wonder how JD vs. Demulsim is going to play out. JD is playing in Proleague in 8 hours, and he's been playing this tournament for the past 7 hours after playing through the night last night. I don't think Coach Park is going to be happy about that.
Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
April 22 2013 00:20 GMT
#4804
Ah MLG will probably ask money for final games (no chinese money plz)
Freelancer veteran
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
April 22 2013 00:20 GMT
#4805
On April 22 2013 09:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:14 Derez wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:12 tribulator wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:05 AgentW wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:05 govie wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:03 Fionn wrote:
Miya seems to be pissed on Twitter.

Everyone mad at MLG.


Link plz?

https://twitter.com/AxMiya

Just pissed about the awful time. Sucks for him, it's NA.


How dare we schedule the North American WCS Qualifier for prime North American times! This is a travesty!

He seems to say something about having to be online for 20 hours or something and that's its simply too long. That's a valid complaint no matter what timezone you're in.

yeah PiG wrote a blog on it. He said the admins wouldnt accept match results for each round until a certain time so there was a lot of downtime just sitting there waiting for the next round, especially when round 1 was 3 hours long

I'm so glad I'm not participating... This is the stupidest rule I've ever heard. I've never heard something more retarded...
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
April 22 2013 00:20 GMT
#4806
On April 22 2013 09:19 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:12 Rostam wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:11 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:08 Redox wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:06 rasnj wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:03 jalen wrote:
OK, MLG have its strict rules, so please DQ crank. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408976

Actually their rules are not strict just very flexible. Any minor violation has the phrase "may result in disqualification" which means "we do whatever the hell we want". MLG doesn't care about having comm at their tourny so they DQ, but Crank is a fan-favorite and TB+reddit+TL would raise hell if he was DQ'ed so they won't DQ him for anything less than blatant cheating (not that I think he deserves a ban, but neither did comm really).

Still its different as you say, so its unfair to suggest this different treatment if it never happened. For all we know Crank would get DQ as well if he played on a different MLG account.

I am 100% he would be DQed if he played under someone else's account. And TB would beat him with that top hat until Crank apologized for being an idiot for doing so. I don't get these people who are arguing that people should be able to use multiple accounts to try out for WCS.


He did not "use multiple accounts", please stop spouting this bullshit.

Im sorry. He used someone elses account when he realized he couldn't get in, that didn't have his name on it. It would have been a real funny live event when he had to tell them he wasn't the person that signed up.


are you MLG PR or something? Because you've been defending them all day.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
April 22 2013 00:21 GMT
#4807
On April 22 2013 09:17 betaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:12 tribulator wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:05 AgentW wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:05 govie wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:03 Fionn wrote:
Miya seems to be pissed on Twitter.

Everyone mad at MLG.


Link plz?

https://twitter.com/AxMiya

Just pissed about the awful time. Sucks for him, it's NA.


How dare we schedule the North American WCS Qualifier for prime North American times! This is a travesty!


I think it is more they have to wait around for hours in between games. The EU qualifier they just casted the best games available.


They also had at least two games joined all the time, so there was basically no downtime after a game finished, because the caster could just switched the monitor and was in another game already.
Ameisenmann
Profile Joined April 2012
Albania296 Posts
April 22 2013 00:21 GMT
#4808
On April 22 2013 09:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I had chinese food last night for dinner and I reheated the leftovers for lunch. oh god... im about to be DQed

Dunno, eating and therefor destroying chinese stuff seems safe to me.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
April 22 2013 00:21 GMT
#4809
On April 22 2013 09:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I had chinese food last night for dinner and I reheated the leftovers for lunch. oh god... im about to be DQed

You think that's bad, most of our clothing and household products are made in China. Guess we have to boycott "Made in China" or abstain from Chinese-made products if we want to play in MLG.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
April 22 2013 00:21 GMT
#4810
hendralisk all in all day every day
banelings
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 00:22:15
April 22 2013 00:21 GMT
#4811
Worst tournament ever. MLG can fuck off. I'm going to bed.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
UberNuB
Profile Joined December 2010
United States365 Posts
April 22 2013 00:21 GMT
#4812
I only even bother having the stream on in hopes they show some of Demuslim's games. Good thing they have a schedule / bracket I can follow to see when that might happen!

the absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 00:22:30
April 22 2013 00:22 GMT
#4813
On April 22 2013 09:20 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:14 Derez wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:12 tribulator wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:05 AgentW wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:05 govie wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:03 Fionn wrote:
Miya seems to be pissed on Twitter.

Everyone mad at MLG.


Link plz?

https://twitter.com/AxMiya

Just pissed about the awful time. Sucks for him, it's NA.


How dare we schedule the North American WCS Qualifier for prime North American times! This is a travesty!

He seems to say something about having to be online for 20 hours or something and that's its simply too long. That's a valid complaint no matter what timezone you're in.

yeah PiG wrote a blog on it. He said the admins wouldnt accept match results for each round until a certain time so there was a lot of downtime just sitting there waiting for the next round, especially when round 1 was 3 hours long

I'm so glad I'm not participating... This is the stupidest rule I've ever heard. I've never heard something more retarded...

here's exactly what he said
On April 21 2013 21:03 PiGStarcraft wrote:
...Our first round opponents were all sub-diamond so it was over quick. We then proceeded to play our r2 opponents. When we tried to report r2 it wouldn't accept the replays because they were played at the wrong time. From here it was on average a 2 hour wait to get an admin to manually input the result before we could continue in the bracket...
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 00:25:00
April 22 2013 00:22 GMT
#4814
On April 22 2013 09:19 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:12 Rostam wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:11 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:08 Redox wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:06 rasnj wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:03 jalen wrote:
OK, MLG have its strict rules, so please DQ crank. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408976

Actually their rules are not strict just very flexible. Any minor violation has the phrase "may result in disqualification" which means "we do whatever the hell we want". MLG doesn't care about having comm at their tourny so they DQ, but Crank is a fan-favorite and TB+reddit+TL would raise hell if he was DQ'ed so they won't DQ him for anything less than blatant cheating (not that I think he deserves a ban, but neither did comm really).

Still its different as you say, so its unfair to suggest this different treatment if it never happened. For all we know Crank would get DQ as well if he played on a different MLG account.

I am 100% he would be DQed if he played under someone else's account. And TB would beat him with that top hat until Crank apologized for being an idiot for doing so. I don't get these people who are arguing that people should be able to use multiple accounts to try out for WCS.


He did not "use multiple accounts", please stop spouting this bullshit.

Im sorry. He used someone elses account when he realized he couldn't get in, that didn't have his name on it. It would have been a real funny live event when he had to tell them he wasn't the person that signed up.


People have known it was Comm since the beginning of day 1, it has never been a secret
BW forever || Thall
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
April 22 2013 00:22 GMT
#4815
On April 22 2013 09:20 Iodem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:19 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:12 Rostam wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:11 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:08 Redox wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:06 rasnj wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:03 jalen wrote:
OK, MLG have its strict rules, so please DQ crank. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408976

Actually their rules are not strict just very flexible. Any minor violation has the phrase "may result in disqualification" which means "we do whatever the hell we want". MLG doesn't care about having comm at their tourny so they DQ, but Crank is a fan-favorite and TB+reddit+TL would raise hell if he was DQ'ed so they won't DQ him for anything less than blatant cheating (not that I think he deserves a ban, but neither did comm really).

Still its different as you say, so its unfair to suggest this different treatment if it never happened. For all we know Crank would get DQ as well if he played on a different MLG account.

I am 100% he would be DQed if he played under someone else's account. And TB would beat him with that top hat until Crank apologized for being an idiot for doing so. I don't get these people who are arguing that people should be able to use multiple accounts to try out for WCS.


He did not "use multiple accounts", please stop spouting this bullshit.

Im sorry. He used someone elses account when he realized he couldn't get in, that didn't have his name on it. It would have been a real funny live event when he had to tell them he wasn't the person that signed up.


are you MLG PR or something? Because you've been defending them all day.

I imagine him like a 12 year old bully when he's surrounded by the 30 retaliating kids he has bullied, but for some reason is still talking shit, when he's about to get his ass handed to him. He's just an angry child.
Refer to my post.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 22 2013 00:23 GMT
#4816
On April 22 2013 09:22 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:19 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:12 Rostam wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:11 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:08 Redox wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:06 rasnj wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:03 jalen wrote:
OK, MLG have its strict rules, so please DQ crank. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408976

Actually their rules are not strict just very flexible. Any minor violation has the phrase "may result in disqualification" which means "we do whatever the hell we want". MLG doesn't care about having comm at their tourny so they DQ, but Crank is a fan-favorite and TB+reddit+TL would raise hell if he was DQ'ed so they won't DQ him for anything less than blatant cheating (not that I think he deserves a ban, but neither did comm really).

Still its different as you say, so its unfair to suggest this different treatment if it never happened. For all we know Crank would get DQ as well if he played on a different MLG account.

I am 100% he would be DQed if he played under someone else's account. And TB would beat him with that top hat until Crank apologized for being an idiot for doing so. I don't get these people who are arguing that people should be able to use multiple accounts to try out for WCS.


He did not "use multiple accounts", please stop spouting this bullshit.

Im sorry. He used someone elses account when he realized he couldn't get in, that didn't have his name on it. It would have been a real funny live event when he had to tell them he wasn't the person that signed up.


People have known it was Comm since the beginning of day 1, it has never been a secret


Burn there mlg house down... this is shite!
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Yorke
Profile Joined November 2010
England881 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 00:24:38
April 22 2013 00:24 GMT
#4817
Another bad game with an inferior player just repeatedly allin-ing. Hoping JD Demu will pick things up.
@YorkeSC - RIP MIT Police Officer Sean Collier, BW fan
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
April 22 2013 00:24 GMT
#4818
MLG really dropped the ball on this one, hope they will step up their game for the Premier Division coverage, cause this is a mess right now.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 22 2013 00:24 GMT
#4819
On April 22 2013 09:24 Champloo wrote:
MLG really dropped the ball on this one, hope they will step up their game for the Premier Division coverage, cause this is a mess right now.


I hope they dont get the chance to fck that up.
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
April 22 2013 00:25 GMT
#4820
On April 22 2013 09:20 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 09:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:14 Derez wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:12 tribulator wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:05 AgentW wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:05 govie wrote:
On April 22 2013 09:03 Fionn wrote:
Miya seems to be pissed on Twitter.

Everyone mad at MLG.


Link plz?

https://twitter.com/AxMiya

Just pissed about the awful time. Sucks for him, it's NA.


How dare we schedule the North American WCS Qualifier for prime North American times! This is a travesty!

He seems to say something about having to be online for 20 hours or something and that's its simply too long. That's a valid complaint no matter what timezone you're in.

yeah PiG wrote a blog on it. He said the admins wouldnt accept match results for each round until a certain time so there was a lot of downtime just sitting there waiting for the next round, especially when round 1 was 3 hours long

I'm so glad I'm not participating... This is the stupidest rule I've ever heard. I've never heard something more retarded...


To be fair to the admins, it was actually their reporting system that wasn't accepting replays that were created before the official round start time. It's not like the admins were saying "you played early so your match doesn't count" or something like that. It's still the dumbest thing I've ever seen in an online tournament, and doubly so since the rules specifically state that players can play their matches ahead if they wish to lol. Tbh, the admins didn't even seem like they were doing shit except for a couple. There's a list of at least a dozen admins to contact on the tournament page, yet all but like 2 were either offline or afk. It took me over an hour to get an admin to manually advance me because I played a match early. Luckily I had the time to kill because of their retarded reporting system huehue.
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