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Twiggs
Profile Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
April 20 2013 17:59 GMT
#901
On April 21 2013 02:34 Bowzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 02:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On April 21 2013 02:21 Bowzar wrote:
On April 21 2013 02:10 theMagus wrote:
On April 21 2013 02:07 Bowzar wrote:
On April 21 2013 01:54 theMagus wrote:
On April 21 2013 01:29 Bowzar wrote:
On April 21 2013 01:07 Steel wrote:
On April 21 2013 01:04 Bowzar wrote:
On April 21 2013 00:32 Daswollvieh wrote:
[quote]

Then maybe coach Park knows more than you.


Sending out people based on a gut feeling is bad coaching. IM has lost a lot of matches because the coach sent out people because they wanted to play.


I don't think it was gut feeling. I agree it was a HUGE gamble by coach Park. Yet Hero needed this confidence boost more than Taeja, who was the only other viable ace here. When you're this far behind in a league, you're going to have to take gambles. Again, I think you're right about Hero not really being an ace player, but he has a great PvP. Rain was most likely the ace here, and winning against him after such a long losing streak (to rain and at the studio) is so positive for the EGTL team, more than the win itself. It boosts Hero's moral and motivates the team. It could of looked stupid, but now he looks like a fricken genious. It was well worth the risk.


Thats what I said, in order to reach the playoffs (or do better next season) he needs to build up Heros confidence but lets look at the facts. Coach Park didnt prepare anything for the ace match, Hero has a losing record against Rain, Hero just lost his match and Hero is known for his nerves. Without knowing the outcome would you seriously send out Hero to win this match with these facts in mind?


to win the match, i'll probably choose taeja over hero. to build hero's confidence and give him ace match experience, yes i will send hero. even if they lost, coach park would've taken a step towards this objective already. what is losing one match vs bolstering your team's strength with a confident hero, who is one of the most skilled players in your team? how does this make coach park look stupid?


Heros confidence probably grew because he won but what if he had lost? I doubt JYP felt good after he was sent out in the ace match and people wrote mean shit about him. It would make coach Park look stupid because of the reasons I listed. Did you even read what I said?


you grow confidence in your player by putting him out there, win or lose. even if he loses, he still gets to experience that pressure and hence, he'll be able to learn how to deal with it. how do you propose coach park build hero's confidence if he doesn't play him for a critical match?


You havent even read what I said. I believe that Coach Park sent him out so Hero could build up confidence and do better next round/season. I dont think it was good decision to send him out to win that match since nothing was in Heros favour.


What if HerO has a 90% PvP winrate in practice that you just don't know about because you don't actually know anything about their practice. And from what I've seen on stream, his PvP is really really good atm.


Sure, that might be the case. Im just going by what we know and what numbers are out there and based on stats, Hero wasnt the best pick but not the worst either. In the end the coach knows best but that didnt stop people from talking shit about the EGTL coach when he sent out JYP as the ace or when the IM coach sent out a bunch of B-teamers i
n GSTL (they might have been practice bonjwas who knows).

Hero was the right choice because Hero won. Enough said. In sports, whatever gets the W is all that matters. I think all this speculation and what ifs can be applied to any sport. And it is just as trivial and senseless to do so in those sports as you guys are doing right now with StarCraft!
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DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
April 20 2013 17:59 GMT
#902
On April 19 2013 18:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:
HERO. IT'S TIME.

You were right
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 20 2013 18:12 GMT
#903
wow HerO actually beat Rain. grats
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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
April 20 2013 18:24 GMT
#904
--- Nuked ---
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
April 20 2013 18:31 GMT
#905
hero so gud
yo
Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 18:44:37
April 20 2013 18:34 GMT
#906
So, can we please remember this the next time we're tempted to say Hero isn't that good? He could be more stable, sure, but at his best he can beat anyone.

BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 20 2013 19:46 GMT
#907
Awesome that EG-TL won and that HerO beat Rain! Congrats to him! Hope he gets his nerves under control and EG-TL keeps up the good work
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
April 20 2013 21:49 GMT
#908
Loving the kr VOD links. Especially loving how spoiler free they are. Good job OP!
maru G5L pls
MattRz
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile1680 Posts
April 20 2013 22:23 GMT
#909
this is great news !
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fire_brand
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1123 Posts
April 20 2013 23:17 GMT
#910
On April 19 2013 18:48 Hier wrote:

Seeker has final exams.




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Wojciech Zywny
Profile Joined April 2013
Poland271 Posts
April 20 2013 23:21 GMT
#911
Just watched the games. That was so clutch by EG-TL sending out hero vs rain again.
Miecz przeznaczenia ma dwa ostrza. Jednym jesteś ty.
Seanly
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada73 Posts
April 21 2013 00:16 GMT
#912
HEERRROOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Uh oh, we're drunk again.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37055 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 01:31:00
April 21 2013 01:30 GMT
#913
On April 21 2013 08:17 fire_brand wrote:
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On April 19 2013 18:48 Hier wrote:
Seeker has final exams.

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Oo;;

How did he know that? I never even mentioned that on TL yet...
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 21 2013 01:35 GMT
#914
On April 21 2013 10:30 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 08:17 fire_brand wrote:
On April 19 2013 18:48 Hier wrote:
Seeker has final exams.

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNUUUUUU

Oo;;

How did he know that? I never even mentioned that on TL yet...

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408230&currentpage=2#35
maybe he assumed you included yourself
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FeltFace
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia577 Posts
April 21 2013 03:51 GMT
#915
HerOOO you fucken baller! Lost a match but won the war! No reason to doubt
FeltFace
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia577 Posts
April 21 2013 03:56 GMT
#916
On April 21 2013 01:04 Bowzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 00:32 Daswollvieh wrote:
On April 21 2013 00:12 Bowzar wrote:
I dont think coach Park think they can get to the playoffs. Sending out Hero was a dumb decision. You dont send out a player that is known for being really nervous, has a losing record against his opponent and just lost his match unless you are trying to build confidence. I respect Park for not caring what everybody else thinks because if Hero would have lost that game Park would have looked really stupid.


Then maybe coach Park knows more than you.


Sending out people based on a gut feeling is bad coaching. IM has lost a lot of matches because the coach sent out people because they wanted to play.


You know nothing Bowzar
snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
April 21 2013 04:00 GMT
#917
Hero ended up winning but if I had to bet on a rematch my money would still be on rain.
BabyRomatic
Profile Joined December 2012
259 Posts
April 21 2013 08:56 GMT
#918
wow, Park is a great coach!
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scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
April 21 2013 12:16 GMT
#919
Great win for Hero (even though I like Rain and totally expected him to win). He really needed that one.

Grats EG-TL.
raser
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway301 Posts
April 21 2013 16:34 GMT
#920
oh i hate finals somone else that speaks korean that can translate the HerOs interview?
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