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On April 20 2013 17:58 Tachion wrote:
after ending a 6 year relationship JD's win today was the first thing that made me smile.
Thanks JD.
Hang in there dude. Watching JDs games used to be like therapy for me too when I was down.
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On April 21 2013 01:07 Steel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 01:04 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 00:32 Daswollvieh wrote:On April 21 2013 00:12 Bowzar wrote:
I dont think coach Park think they can get to the playoffs. Sending out Hero was a dumb decision. You dont send out a player that is known for being really nervous, has a losing record against his opponent and just lost his match unless you are trying to build confidence. I respect Park for not caring what everybody else thinks because if Hero would have lost that game Park would have looked really stupid. Then maybe coach Park knows more than you. Sending out people based on a gut feeling is bad coaching. IM has lost a lot of matches because the coach sent out people because they wanted to play. I don't think it was gut feeling. I agree it was a HUGE gamble by coach Park. Yet Hero needed this confidence boost more than Taeja, who was the only other viable ace here. When you're this far behind in a league, you're going to have to take gambles. Again, I think you're right about Hero not really being an ace player, but he has a great PvP. Rain was most likely the ace here, and winning against him after such a long losing streak (to rain and at the studio) is so positive for the EGTL team, more than the win itself. It boosts Hero's moral and motivates the team. It could of looked stupid, but now he looks like a fricken genious. It was well worth the risk.
Thats what I said, in order to reach the playoffs (or do better next season) he needs to build up Heros confidence but lets look at the facts. Coach Park didnt prepare anything for the ace match, Hero has a losing record against Rain, Hero just lost his match and Hero is known for his nerves. Without knowing the outcome would you seriously send out Hero to win this match with these facts in mind?
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On April 21 2013 01:29 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 01:07 Steel wrote:On April 21 2013 01:04 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 00:32 Daswollvieh wrote:On April 21 2013 00:12 Bowzar wrote:
I dont think coach Park think they can get to the playoffs. Sending out Hero was a dumb decision. You dont send out a player that is known for being really nervous, has a losing record against his opponent and just lost his match unless you are trying to build confidence. I respect Park for not caring what everybody else thinks because if Hero would have lost that game Park would have looked really stupid. Then maybe coach Park knows more than you. Sending out people based on a gut feeling is bad coaching. IM has lost a lot of matches because the coach sent out people because they wanted to play. I don't think it was gut feeling. I agree it was a HUGE gamble by coach Park. Yet Hero needed this confidence boost more than Taeja, who was the only other viable ace here. When you're this far behind in a league, you're going to have to take gambles. Again, I think you're right about Hero not really being an ace player, but he has a great PvP. Rain was most likely the ace here, and winning against him after such a long losing streak (to rain and at the studio) is so positive for the EGTL team, more than the win itself. It boosts Hero's moral and motivates the team. It could of looked stupid, but now he looks like a fricken genious. It was well worth the risk. Thats what I said, in order to reach the playoffs (or do better next season) he needs to build up Heros confidence but lets look at the facts. Coach Park didnt prepare anything for the ace match, Hero has a losing record against Rain, Hero just lost his match and Hero is known for his nerves. Without knowing the outcome would you seriously send out Hero to win this match with these facts in mind?
Who else would you send if you know skt for sure selected Rain as their ace ? JD not good at zvp and taeja still has wrist problem.
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On April 21 2013 01:29 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 01:07 Steel wrote:On April 21 2013 01:04 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 00:32 Daswollvieh wrote:On April 21 2013 00:12 Bowzar wrote:
I dont think coach Park think they can get to the playoffs. Sending out Hero was a dumb decision. You dont send out a player that is known for being really nervous, has a losing record against his opponent and just lost his match unless you are trying to build confidence. I respect Park for not caring what everybody else thinks because if Hero would have lost that game Park would have looked really stupid. Then maybe coach Park knows more than you. Sending out people based on a gut feeling is bad coaching. IM has lost a lot of matches because the coach sent out people because they wanted to play. I don't think it was gut feeling. I agree it was a HUGE gamble by coach Park. Yet Hero needed this confidence boost more than Taeja, who was the only other viable ace here. When you're this far behind in a league, you're going to have to take gambles. Again, I think you're right about Hero not really being an ace player, but he has a great PvP. Rain was most likely the ace here, and winning against him after such a long losing streak (to rain and at the studio) is so positive for the EGTL team, more than the win itself. It boosts Hero's moral and motivates the team. It could of looked stupid, but now he looks like a fricken genious. It was well worth the risk. Thats what I said, in order to reach the playoffs (or do better next season) he needs to build up Heros confidence but lets look at the facts. Coach Park didnt prepare anything for the ace match, Hero has a losing record against Rain, Hero just lost his match and Hero is known for his nerves. Without knowing the outcome would you seriously send out Hero to win this match with these facts in mind?
It's PvP and if a couple things had gone differently, the first game would have gone to HerO. HerO may have even expressed confidence to Coach Park, knowing that he could very well have won the first game.
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On April 21 2013 01:29 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 01:07 Steel wrote:On April 21 2013 01:04 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 00:32 Daswollvieh wrote:On April 21 2013 00:12 Bowzar wrote:
I dont think coach Park think they can get to the playoffs. Sending out Hero was a dumb decision. You dont send out a player that is known for being really nervous, has a losing record against his opponent and just lost his match unless you are trying to build confidence. I respect Park for not caring what everybody else thinks because if Hero would have lost that game Park would have looked really stupid. Then maybe coach Park knows more than you. Sending out people based on a gut feeling is bad coaching. IM has lost a lot of matches because the coach sent out people because they wanted to play. I don't think it was gut feeling. I agree it was a HUGE gamble by coach Park. Yet Hero needed this confidence boost more than Taeja, who was the only other viable ace here. When you're this far behind in a league, you're going to have to take gambles. Again, I think you're right about Hero not really being an ace player, but he has a great PvP. Rain was most likely the ace here, and winning against him after such a long losing streak (to rain and at the studio) is so positive for the EGTL team, more than the win itself. It boosts Hero's moral and motivates the team. It could of looked stupid, but now he looks like a fricken genious. It was well worth the risk. Thats what I said, in order to reach the playoffs (or do better next season) he needs to build up Heros confidence but lets look at the facts. Coach Park didnt prepare anything for the ace match, Hero has a losing record against Rain, Hero just lost his match and Hero is known for his nerves. Without knowing the outcome would you seriously send out Hero to win this match with these facts in mind?
to win the match, i'll probably choose taeja over hero. to build hero's confidence and give him ace match experience, yes i will send hero. even if they lost, coach park would've taken a step towards this objective already. what is losing one match vs bolstering your team's strength with a confident hero, who is one of the most skilled players in your team? how does this make coach park look stupid?
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If I recall correctly, coach Park said in a recent interview that he was using this period to get to know the players better, their strenghts and weaknesess and how they dealt with pressure, and that he did not expect the team to start winning so soon. So, in other words, he is still trying to figure out what works and what doesn't, rather that try to blindly shoot for the win.
That would explain Hero being sent as the ace, as well as why the team has been scoring a lot of 4-3's revently. Expect a bit more of experimentation from him before the team starts to behave more consistently.
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On April 21 2013 01:29 Bowzar wrote:
Thats what I said, in order to reach the playoffs (or do better next season) he needs to build up Heros confidence but lets look at the facts. Coach Park didnt prepare anything for the ace match, Hero has a losing record against Rain, Hero just lost his match and Hero is known for his nerves. Without knowing the outcome would you seriously send out Hero to win this match with these facts in mind?
I think you're leaving out the fact that Hero has the most wins this season for EG-TL, he just won an ace match in the same matchup vs CJ and Coach Park really doesn't many other options. Taeja is 1-2 in ace matches and Jaedong isn't as confident vs P yet. Sending out the player who has won the most games for you, in his best matchup doesn't seem like that crazy of a decision. Yes Hero has had nerve issues but he's also proved he's been able to overcome them and preform in Ace matches. You also have to consider the map Akilon Wastes, the fact that Protoss are 3-0 in PvT on that map so far, and the fact that Rain has excellent PvT. Considering all of the options Coach Park had, Hero is far from a poor choice.
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On April 21 2013 01:50 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 01:29 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 01:07 Steel wrote:On April 21 2013 01:04 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 00:32 Daswollvieh wrote:On April 21 2013 00:12 Bowzar wrote:
I dont think coach Park think they can get to the playoffs. Sending out Hero was a dumb decision. You dont send out a player that is known for being really nervous, has a losing record against his opponent and just lost his match unless you are trying to build confidence. I respect Park for not caring what everybody else thinks because if Hero would have lost that game Park would have looked really stupid. Then maybe coach Park knows more than you. Sending out people based on a gut feeling is bad coaching. IM has lost a lot of matches because the coach sent out people because they wanted to play. I don't think it was gut feeling. I agree it was a HUGE gamble by coach Park. Yet Hero needed this confidence boost more than Taeja, who was the only other viable ace here. When you're this far behind in a league, you're going to have to take gambles. Again, I think you're right about Hero not really being an ace player, but he has a great PvP. Rain was most likely the ace here, and winning against him after such a long losing streak (to rain and at the studio) is so positive for the EGTL team, more than the win itself. It boosts Hero's moral and motivates the team. It could of looked stupid, but now he looks like a fricken genious. It was well worth the risk. Thats what I said, in order to reach the playoffs (or do better next season) he needs to build up Heros confidence but lets look at the facts. Coach Park didnt prepare anything for the ace match, Hero has a losing record against Rain, Hero just lost his match and Hero is known for his nerves. Without knowing the outcome would you seriously send out Hero to win this match with these facts in mind? It's PvP and if a couple things had gone differently, the first game would have gone to HerO. HerO may have even expressed confidence to Coach Park, knowing that he could very well have won the first game.
Go check out the reddit thread. Hero didnt think he would be sent out and he wasnt confident. PvP is pretty random but Rain engages so well that he is just good at it and besides that JYPs PvP record is better than Heros.
Taeja with wrist problems is still a monster and JYP just won so I would have sent out one of those two.
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the rationale for choosing hero is probably a combination of everything said in the last 3 posts before this one, which doesn't make choosing hero for the ace match a stupid decision at all.
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On April 21 2013 01:54 theMagus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 01:29 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 01:07 Steel wrote:On April 21 2013 01:04 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 00:32 Daswollvieh wrote:On April 21 2013 00:12 Bowzar wrote:
I dont think coach Park think they can get to the playoffs. Sending out Hero was a dumb decision. You dont send out a player that is known for being really nervous, has a losing record against his opponent and just lost his match unless you are trying to build confidence. I respect Park for not caring what everybody else thinks because if Hero would have lost that game Park would have looked really stupid. Then maybe coach Park knows more than you. Sending out people based on a gut feeling is bad coaching. IM has lost a lot of matches because the coach sent out people because they wanted to play. I don't think it was gut feeling. I agree it was a HUGE gamble by coach Park. Yet Hero needed this confidence boost more than Taeja, who was the only other viable ace here. When you're this far behind in a league, you're going to have to take gambles. Again, I think you're right about Hero not really being an ace player, but he has a great PvP. Rain was most likely the ace here, and winning against him after such a long losing streak (to rain and at the studio) is so positive for the EGTL team, more than the win itself. It boosts Hero's moral and motivates the team. It could of looked stupid, but now he looks like a fricken genious. It was well worth the risk. Thats what I said, in order to reach the playoffs (or do better next season) he needs to build up Heros confidence but lets look at the facts. Coach Park didnt prepare anything for the ace match, Hero has a losing record against Rain, Hero just lost his match and Hero is known for his nerves. Without knowing the outcome would you seriously send out Hero to win this match with these facts in mind? to win the match, i'll probably choose taeja over hero. to build hero's confidence and give him ace match experience, yes i will send hero. even if they lost, coach park would've taken a step towards this objective already. what is losing one match vs bolstering your team's strength with a confident hero, who is one of the most skilled players in your team? how does this make coach park look stupid?
Heros confidence probably grew because he won but what if he had lost? I doubt JYP felt good after he was sent out in the ace match and people wrote mean shit about him. It would make coach Park look stupid because of the reasons I listed. Did you even read what I said?
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On April 21 2013 02:07 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 01:54 theMagus wrote:On April 21 2013 01:29 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 01:07 Steel wrote:On April 21 2013 01:04 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 00:32 Daswollvieh wrote:On April 21 2013 00:12 Bowzar wrote:
I dont think coach Park think they can get to the playoffs. Sending out Hero was a dumb decision. You dont send out a player that is known for being really nervous, has a losing record against his opponent and just lost his match unless you are trying to build confidence. I respect Park for not caring what everybody else thinks because if Hero would have lost that game Park would have looked really stupid. Then maybe coach Park knows more than you. Sending out people based on a gut feeling is bad coaching. IM has lost a lot of matches because the coach sent out people because they wanted to play. I don't think it was gut feeling. I agree it was a HUGE gamble by coach Park. Yet Hero needed this confidence boost more than Taeja, who was the only other viable ace here. When you're this far behind in a league, you're going to have to take gambles. Again, I think you're right about Hero not really being an ace player, but he has a great PvP. Rain was most likely the ace here, and winning against him after such a long losing streak (to rain and at the studio) is so positive for the EGTL team, more than the win itself. It boosts Hero's moral and motivates the team. It could of looked stupid, but now he looks like a fricken genious. It was well worth the risk. Thats what I said, in order to reach the playoffs (or do better next season) he needs to build up Heros confidence but lets look at the facts. Coach Park didnt prepare anything for the ace match, Hero has a losing record against Rain, Hero just lost his match and Hero is known for his nerves. Without knowing the outcome would you seriously send out Hero to win this match with these facts in mind? to win the match, i'll probably choose taeja over hero. to build hero's confidence and give him ace match experience, yes i will send hero. even if they lost, coach park would've taken a step towards this objective already. what is losing one match vs bolstering your team's strength with a confident hero, who is one of the most skilled players in your team? how does this make coach park look stupid? Heros confidence probably grew because he won but what if he had lost? I doubt JYP felt good after he was sent out in the ace match and people wrote mean shit about him. It would make coach Park look stupid because of the reasons I listed. Did you even read what I said?
you grow confidence in your player by putting him out there, win or lose. even if he loses, he still gets to experience that pressure and hence, he'll be able to learn how to deal with it. how do you propose coach park build hero's confidence if he doesn't play him for a critical match?
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Austria24420 Posts
On April 21 2013 02:07 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 01:54 theMagus wrote:On April 21 2013 01:29 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 01:07 Steel wrote:On April 21 2013 01:04 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 00:32 Daswollvieh wrote:On April 21 2013 00:12 Bowzar wrote:
I dont think coach Park think they can get to the playoffs. Sending out Hero was a dumb decision. You dont send out a player that is known for being really nervous, has a losing record against his opponent and just lost his match unless you are trying to build confidence. I respect Park for not caring what everybody else thinks because if Hero would have lost that game Park would have looked really stupid. Then maybe coach Park knows more than you. Sending out people based on a gut feeling is bad coaching. IM has lost a lot of matches because the coach sent out people because they wanted to play. I don't think it was gut feeling. I agree it was a HUGE gamble by coach Park. Yet Hero needed this confidence boost more than Taeja, who was the only other viable ace here. When you're this far behind in a league, you're going to have to take gambles. Again, I think you're right about Hero not really being an ace player, but he has a great PvP. Rain was most likely the ace here, and winning against him after such a long losing streak (to rain and at the studio) is so positive for the EGTL team, more than the win itself. It boosts Hero's moral and motivates the team. It could of looked stupid, but now he looks like a fricken genious. It was well worth the risk. Thats what I said, in order to reach the playoffs (or do better next season) he needs to build up Heros confidence but lets look at the facts. Coach Park didnt prepare anything for the ace match, Hero has a losing record against Rain, Hero just lost his match and Hero is known for his nerves. Without knowing the outcome would you seriously send out Hero to win this match with these facts in mind? to win the match, i'll probably choose taeja over hero. to build hero's confidence and give him ace match experience, yes i will send hero. even if they lost, coach park would've taken a step towards this objective already. what is losing one match vs bolstering your team's strength with a confident hero, who is one of the most skilled players in your team? how does this make coach park look stupid? Heros confidence probably grew because he won but what if he had lost? I doubt JYP felt good after he was sent out in the ace match and people wrote mean shit about him. It would make coach Park look stupid because of the reasons I listed. Did you even read what I said?
How about we drop the "what if" and agree that it was the correct decision to make considering that HerO absolutely aced it.
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wahoo ! big achievement for EGTL. SKT1 is not a piece of cake team ...
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No Bisu. SKT deserved this lose xD.
I'm glad HerO made it. I was so scared during the ace match.
EG-TL Fighting!!
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On April 21 2013 02:10 theMagus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 02:07 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 01:54 theMagus wrote:On April 21 2013 01:29 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 01:07 Steel wrote:On April 21 2013 01:04 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 00:32 Daswollvieh wrote:On April 21 2013 00:12 Bowzar wrote:
I dont think coach Park think they can get to the playoffs. Sending out Hero was a dumb decision. You dont send out a player that is known for being really nervous, has a losing record against his opponent and just lost his match unless you are trying to build confidence. I respect Park for not caring what everybody else thinks because if Hero would have lost that game Park would have looked really stupid. Then maybe coach Park knows more than you. Sending out people based on a gut feeling is bad coaching. IM has lost a lot of matches because the coach sent out people because they wanted to play. I don't think it was gut feeling. I agree it was a HUGE gamble by coach Park. Yet Hero needed this confidence boost more than Taeja, who was the only other viable ace here. When you're this far behind in a league, you're going to have to take gambles. Again, I think you're right about Hero not really being an ace player, but he has a great PvP. Rain was most likely the ace here, and winning against him after such a long losing streak (to rain and at the studio) is so positive for the EGTL team, more than the win itself. It boosts Hero's moral and motivates the team. It could of looked stupid, but now he looks like a fricken genious. It was well worth the risk. Thats what I said, in order to reach the playoffs (or do better next season) he needs to build up Heros confidence but lets look at the facts. Coach Park didnt prepare anything for the ace match, Hero has a losing record against Rain, Hero just lost his match and Hero is known for his nerves. Without knowing the outcome would you seriously send out Hero to win this match with these facts in mind? to win the match, i'll probably choose taeja over hero. to build hero's confidence and give him ace match experience, yes i will send hero. even if they lost, coach park would've taken a step towards this objective already. what is losing one match vs bolstering your team's strength with a confident hero, who is one of the most skilled players in your team? how does this make coach park look stupid? Heros confidence probably grew because he won but what if he had lost? I doubt JYP felt good after he was sent out in the ace match and people wrote mean shit about him. It would make coach Park look stupid because of the reasons I listed. Did you even read what I said? you grow confidence in your player by putting him out there, win or lose. even if he loses, he still gets to experience that pressure and hence, he'll be able to learn how to deal with it. how do you propose coach park build hero's confidence if he doesn't play him for a critical match?
You havent even read what I said. I believe that Coach Park sent him out so Hero could build up confidence and do better next round/season. I dont think it was good decision to send him out to win that match since nothing was in Heros favour.
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On April 21 2013 02:21 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 02:10 theMagus wrote:On April 21 2013 02:07 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 01:54 theMagus wrote:On April 21 2013 01:29 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 01:07 Steel wrote:On April 21 2013 01:04 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 00:32 Daswollvieh wrote:On April 21 2013 00:12 Bowzar wrote:
I dont think coach Park think they can get to the playoffs. Sending out Hero was a dumb decision. You dont send out a player that is known for being really nervous, has a losing record against his opponent and just lost his match unless you are trying to build confidence. I respect Park for not caring what everybody else thinks because if Hero would have lost that game Park would have looked really stupid. Then maybe coach Park knows more than you. Sending out people based on a gut feeling is bad coaching. IM has lost a lot of matches because the coach sent out people because they wanted to play. I don't think it was gut feeling. I agree it was a HUGE gamble by coach Park. Yet Hero needed this confidence boost more than Taeja, who was the only other viable ace here. When you're this far behind in a league, you're going to have to take gambles. Again, I think you're right about Hero not really being an ace player, but he has a great PvP. Rain was most likely the ace here, and winning against him after such a long losing streak (to rain and at the studio) is so positive for the EGTL team, more than the win itself. It boosts Hero's moral and motivates the team. It could of looked stupid, but now he looks like a fricken genious. It was well worth the risk. Thats what I said, in order to reach the playoffs (or do better next season) he needs to build up Heros confidence but lets look at the facts. Coach Park didnt prepare anything for the ace match, Hero has a losing record against Rain, Hero just lost his match and Hero is known for his nerves. Without knowing the outcome would you seriously send out Hero to win this match with these facts in mind? to win the match, i'll probably choose taeja over hero. to build hero's confidence and give him ace match experience, yes i will send hero. even if they lost, coach park would've taken a step towards this objective already. what is losing one match vs bolstering your team's strength with a confident hero, who is one of the most skilled players in your team? how does this make coach park look stupid? Heros confidence probably grew because he won but what if he had lost? I doubt JYP felt good after he was sent out in the ace match and people wrote mean shit about him. It would make coach Park look stupid because of the reasons I listed. Did you even read what I said? you grow confidence in your player by putting him out there, win or lose. even if he loses, he still gets to experience that pressure and hence, he'll be able to learn how to deal with it. how do you propose coach park build hero's confidence if he doesn't play him for a critical match? You havent even read what I said. I believe that Coach Park sent him out so Hero could build up confidence and do better next round/season. I dont think it was good decision to send him out to win that match since nothing was in Heros favour.
you're all over the place man. i'll just back down.
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Austria24420 Posts
On April 21 2013 02:21 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 02:10 theMagus wrote:On April 21 2013 02:07 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 01:54 theMagus wrote:On April 21 2013 01:29 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 01:07 Steel wrote:On April 21 2013 01:04 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 00:32 Daswollvieh wrote:On April 21 2013 00:12 Bowzar wrote:
I dont think coach Park think they can get to the playoffs. Sending out Hero was a dumb decision. You dont send out a player that is known for being really nervous, has a losing record against his opponent and just lost his match unless you are trying to build confidence. I respect Park for not caring what everybody else thinks because if Hero would have lost that game Park would have looked really stupid. Then maybe coach Park knows more than you. Sending out people based on a gut feeling is bad coaching. IM has lost a lot of matches because the coach sent out people because they wanted to play. I don't think it was gut feeling. I agree it was a HUGE gamble by coach Park. Yet Hero needed this confidence boost more than Taeja, who was the only other viable ace here. When you're this far behind in a league, you're going to have to take gambles. Again, I think you're right about Hero not really being an ace player, but he has a great PvP. Rain was most likely the ace here, and winning against him after such a long losing streak (to rain and at the studio) is so positive for the EGTL team, more than the win itself. It boosts Hero's moral and motivates the team. It could of looked stupid, but now he looks like a fricken genious. It was well worth the risk. Thats what I said, in order to reach the playoffs (or do better next season) he needs to build up Heros confidence but lets look at the facts. Coach Park didnt prepare anything for the ace match, Hero has a losing record against Rain, Hero just lost his match and Hero is known for his nerves. Without knowing the outcome would you seriously send out Hero to win this match with these facts in mind? to win the match, i'll probably choose taeja over hero. to build hero's confidence and give him ace match experience, yes i will send hero. even if they lost, coach park would've taken a step towards this objective already. what is losing one match vs bolstering your team's strength with a confident hero, who is one of the most skilled players in your team? how does this make coach park look stupid? Heros confidence probably grew because he won but what if he had lost? I doubt JYP felt good after he was sent out in the ace match and people wrote mean shit about him. It would make coach Park look stupid because of the reasons I listed. Did you even read what I said? you grow confidence in your player by putting him out there, win or lose. even if he loses, he still gets to experience that pressure and hence, he'll be able to learn how to deal with it. how do you propose coach park build hero's confidence if he doesn't play him for a critical match? You havent even read what I said. I believe that Coach Park sent him out so Hero could build up confidence and do better next round/season. I dont think it was good decision to send him out to win that match since nothing was in Heros favour.
What if HerO has a 90% PvP winrate in practice that you just don't know about because you don't actually know anything about their practice. And from what I've seen on stream, his PvP is really really good atm.
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On April 21 2013 02:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 02:21 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 02:10 theMagus wrote:On April 21 2013 02:07 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 01:54 theMagus wrote:On April 21 2013 01:29 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 01:07 Steel wrote:On April 21 2013 01:04 Bowzar wrote:On April 21 2013 00:32 Daswollvieh wrote:On April 21 2013 00:12 Bowzar wrote:
I dont think coach Park think they can get to the playoffs. Sending out Hero was a dumb decision. You dont send out a player that is known for being really nervous, has a losing record against his opponent and just lost his match unless you are trying to build confidence. I respect Park for not caring what everybody else thinks because if Hero would have lost that game Park would have looked really stupid. Then maybe coach Park knows more than you. Sending out people based on a gut feeling is bad coaching. IM has lost a lot of matches because the coach sent out people because they wanted to play. I don't think it was gut feeling. I agree it was a HUGE gamble by coach Park. Yet Hero needed this confidence boost more than Taeja, who was the only other viable ace here. When you're this far behind in a league, you're going to have to take gambles. Again, I think you're right about Hero not really being an ace player, but he has a great PvP. Rain was most likely the ace here, and winning against him after such a long losing streak (to rain and at the studio) is so positive for the EGTL team, more than the win itself. It boosts Hero's moral and motivates the team. It could of looked stupid, but now he looks like a fricken genious. It was well worth the risk. Thats what I said, in order to reach the playoffs (or do better next season) he needs to build up Heros confidence but lets look at the facts. Coach Park didnt prepare anything for the ace match, Hero has a losing record against Rain, Hero just lost his match and Hero is known for his nerves. Without knowing the outcome would you seriously send out Hero to win this match with these facts in mind? to win the match, i'll probably choose taeja over hero. to build hero's confidence and give him ace match experience, yes i will send hero. even if they lost, coach park would've taken a step towards this objective already. what is losing one match vs bolstering your team's strength with a confident hero, who is one of the most skilled players in your team? how does this make coach park look stupid? Heros confidence probably grew because he won but what if he had lost? I doubt JYP felt good after he was sent out in the ace match and people wrote mean shit about him. It would make coach Park look stupid because of the reasons I listed. Did you even read what I said? you grow confidence in your player by putting him out there, win or lose. even if he loses, he still gets to experience that pressure and hence, he'll be able to learn how to deal with it. how do you propose coach park build hero's confidence if he doesn't play him for a critical match? You havent even read what I said. I believe that Coach Park sent him out so Hero could build up confidence and do better next round/season. I dont think it was good decision to send him out to win that match since nothing was in Heros favour. What if HerO has a 90% PvP winrate in practice that you just don't know about because you don't actually know anything about their practice. And from what I've seen on stream, his PvP is really really good atm.
Sure, that might be the case. Im just going by what we know and what numbers are out there and based on stats, Hero wasnt the best pick but not the worst either. In the end the coach knows best but that didnt stop people from talking shit about the EGTL coach when he sent out JYP as the ace or when the IM coach sent out a bunch of B-teamers in GSTL (they might have been practice bonjwas who knows).
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On April 20 2013 15:38 blade55555 wrote:
I wonder if EGTL will ever decide "I"m sick of winning in ace match time to win sooner?" Am I right that they have only won 1 time 4-2 and that was their only win that wasn't an ace match?
Lmao I doubt they throw matches to get to the ace every time. You act as if its a choice of theirs to go to aces. I think all it shows is that EGTL has had some close matches.
I think every team in Pro league would like to go 4-0 in every match
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On April 21 2013 02:49 R3demption wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2013 15:38 blade55555 wrote:
I wonder if EGTL will ever decide "I"m sick of winning in ace match time to win sooner?" Am I right that they have only won 1 time 4-2 and that was their only win that wasn't an ace match? Lmao I doubt they throw matches to get to the ace every time. You act as if its a choice of theirs to go to aces. I think all it shows is that EGTL has had some close matches. I think every team in Pro league would like to go 4-0 in every match
Every team also sends its weaker players out over stronger ones in order to give them a chance to grow.
Rain was trashed for having a loss streak in his early days precisely because he was sent out so often. In retrospect, was that really a bad idea?
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