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Now Soulkey has to weather the hellbat drop
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On April 18 2013 22:05 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 22:00 Insoleet wrote:
As if you can micro against 24 window mines which has lower priority than the 3 3 bioball. Ah yes, I forgot that Terrans are magically able to produce 24 Mines out of nowhere in like no time.
Mines cost nothing, dont die because they have to be focus fired with detection over, and cost 25 gaz. With 2 factory reactored you can easily reach 14 mines, and then the mines effect just snowball.
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When Artosis say "not bad" he means it's effing amazing for Soulkey 
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On April 18 2013 22:07 trifecta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 22:03 warcralft wrote:
Progamers on twitter are not complaining how bad zerg is. But how good terran is, like if everyone played terran so perfectly like flash. There is 0 ways for a zerg to win. Play Zerg "perfectly"?
It's not like Flash plays terran anywhere near "perfectly" either, though, so it doesn't really matter
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On April 18 2013 22:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 22:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 18 2013 22:05 Lysanias wrote:On April 18 2013 22:00 nomyx wrote:On April 18 2013 21:59 ETisME wrote:On April 18 2013 21:57 Kommander wrote:On April 18 2013 21:54 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 18 2013 21:51 Assirra wrote:On April 18 2013 21:50 Godwrath wrote:On April 18 2013 21:48 rasnj wrote:
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Why would they want to eat those words? I guess because they posted after maru vs B4, and soulkey is rippin a new one to maru now. Its quite obvious at least Ret was talking about Flash his matches rather then maru vs B4. He even calls him by name... Not gonna lie, that makes me lose some respect for Ret. So it's ok when infestors can just fungal everything and win, but it's not ok when widow mines force a bit more micro out of the Zerg? Plus, this is fucking FlaSh we're talking about, and he didn't even play against a top 5 Zerg... Completely uncalled for. Yeah, this so called Terran "imbalance" vs zerg is nowhere near the level of BL + infestor. I know Life is on another level but Zergs should really take a look at what he's doing because it works against Terran. bl infestor is still no where as imbalanced as pre ghost nerf terran though Luckily that lasted two weeks while BL-Infestor lasted a year 6 months don't talk out of your ass please, Terran dominated an entire year they only race to do so in Sc2. MMA and Mvp bad players right? They only won tournaments in 2011 because Terran was too strong? Is that what you're trying to say?  No but the GSL was stuffed with average players who were Code S because they played terran.
How about, they were Code S because the GSL format was not exactly the best?
Remember Trickster, Kyrix, San, Fruitdealer, InCa, HongUn and others? They also stuck around for quite a long time. ^^
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On April 18 2013 22:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 22:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 18 2013 22:05 Lysanias wrote:On April 18 2013 22:00 nomyx wrote:On April 18 2013 21:59 ETisME wrote:On April 18 2013 21:57 Kommander wrote:On April 18 2013 21:54 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 18 2013 21:51 Assirra wrote:On April 18 2013 21:50 Godwrath wrote:On April 18 2013 21:48 rasnj wrote:
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Why would they want to eat those words? I guess because they posted after maru vs B4, and soulkey is rippin a new one to maru now. Its quite obvious at least Ret was talking about Flash his matches rather then maru vs B4. He even calls him by name... Not gonna lie, that makes me lose some respect for Ret. So it's ok when infestors can just fungal everything and win, but it's not ok when widow mines force a bit more micro out of the Zerg? Plus, this is fucking FlaSh we're talking about, and he didn't even play against a top 5 Zerg... Completely uncalled for. Yeah, this so called Terran "imbalance" vs zerg is nowhere near the level of BL + infestor. I know Life is on another level but Zergs should really take a look at what he's doing because it works against Terran. bl infestor is still no where as imbalanced as pre ghost nerf terran though Luckily that lasted two weeks while BL-Infestor lasted a year 6 months don't talk out of your ass please, Terran dominated an entire year they only race to do so in Sc2. MMA and Mvp bad players right? They only won tournaments in 2011 because Terran was too strong? Is that what you're trying to say? No but the GSL was stuffed with average players who were Code S because they played terran.
ensnare and virus were legit man
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On April 18 2013 22:05 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 22:05 Decendos wrote:On April 18 2013 22:02 shadymmj wrote:On April 18 2013 22:00 Insoleet wrote:On April 18 2013 21:54 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 18 2013 21:51 Assirra wrote:On April 18 2013 21:50 Godwrath wrote:On April 18 2013 21:48 rasnj wrote:On April 18 2013 21:44 Heartland wrote:On April 18 2013 21:42 Zheryn wrote:
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Who tweeted what? @LiquidRet 13m Let's wait till flash wins 3 gsls and then we get a patch..with WCS/DH next week..this sucksl. Already did 3 tournaments in this garbage @AcerScarlett 33m at least i get to feel what it was like for zergs in 1st year of WoL now T_T~ Why would they want to eat those words? I guess because they posted after maru vs B4, and soulkey is rippin a new one to maru now. Its quite obvious at least Ret was talking about Flash his matches rather then maru vs B4. He even calls him by name... Not gonna lie, that makes me lose some respect for Ret. So it's ok when infestors can just fungal everything and win, but it's not ok when widow mines force a bit more micro out of the Zerg? Plus, this is fucking FlaSh we're talking about, and he didn't even play against a top 5 Zerg... Completely uncalled for. As if you can micro against 24 window mines which has lower priority than the 3 3 bioball. Seriously... I'd like to micro against widow mines, but its just not possible. Terrans should try one day to micro with the swarm against mines. They'd see. Because, I can easily micro marines against banelings. I can micro the swarm agaisnt 4-6 widow mines. But i cant micro against 24 widow that my units doesnt even attack, they just run over it. I have to FOCUS FIRE every mine. I think terrans dont realize how hard it is. yes that's true, if your entire army is ling/bling/muta then u are obviously fucked. it's not wise to defuse mines with melee units. best thing is the T argument: "mass infestor is stupid and OP...lets do mass mine, thats fine". at least mines cost much less, come much earlier and are faster etc. ^^ Mines can also be tricked and have almost a minute cooldown.
yeah mines alone can be dealt with. mines that are protected by MMM cant be tricked. but yeah we will just have to wait for T nerfs or Z buffs. we´ll see how long it takes blizz this time. hope they are faster than with infestor nerfs ^^
so long just all in every ZvT
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On April 18 2013 21:55 Flonomenalz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 21:50 Grumbels wrote:
I wonder if zergs will ever start flanking with infestors like protoss do with templar. And infestors can sneak up easier and get away easier too. AoE radius for storm is larger than fungal, plus it happens instantly, making flank storms much more effective than flank fungals could ever be. I'm sure we'll see some burrow infestor flanks for fungal eventually, but I doubt they'd be as effective as you think, and most players wouldn't risk it since you only make a few infestors these days.
Fungals has the larger radius. 2 for Fungal, 1.5 for Storm. And Fungals stop units allowing judge and kill of the fungaled group with chains unless the opponent can stop this, which would mean they need detection there.
Infestors are perfect for sneaky flanks compared to Templars. Especially due to the travel time and range 10 of the projectile allowing you to almost shoot it out of vision of your opponent, so the reaction time is less then against storm.
Just wanted to correct the wrong statement about the radius though.
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2 base muta vs 1 base mech.
WTF am I watching.
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On April 18 2013 22:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 22:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 18 2013 22:05 Lysanias wrote:On April 18 2013 22:00 nomyx wrote:On April 18 2013 21:59 ETisME wrote:On April 18 2013 21:57 Kommander wrote:On April 18 2013 21:54 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 18 2013 21:51 Assirra wrote:On April 18 2013 21:50 Godwrath wrote:On April 18 2013 21:48 rasnj wrote:
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Why would they want to eat those words? I guess because they posted after maru vs B4, and soulkey is rippin a new one to maru now. Its quite obvious at least Ret was talking about Flash his matches rather then maru vs B4. He even calls him by name... Not gonna lie, that makes me lose some respect for Ret. So it's ok when infestors can just fungal everything and win, but it's not ok when widow mines force a bit more micro out of the Zerg? Plus, this is fucking FlaSh we're talking about, and he didn't even play against a top 5 Zerg... Completely uncalled for. Yeah, this so called Terran "imbalance" vs zerg is nowhere near the level of BL + infestor. I know Life is on another level but Zergs should really take a look at what he's doing because it works against Terran. bl infestor is still no where as imbalanced as pre ghost nerf terran though Luckily that lasted two weeks while BL-Infestor lasted a year 6 months don't talk out of your ass please, Terran dominated an entire year they only race to do so in Sc2. MMA and Mvp bad players right? They only won tournaments in 2011 because Terran was too strong? Is that what you're trying to say? No but the GSL was stuffed with average players who were Code S because they played terran.
don't insult Virus! 
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On April 18 2013 22:07 kyllinghest wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 22:00 Insoleet wrote:On April 18 2013 21:54 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 18 2013 21:51 Assirra wrote:On April 18 2013 21:50 Godwrath wrote:On April 18 2013 21:48 rasnj wrote:On April 18 2013 21:44 Heartland wrote:On April 18 2013 21:42 Zheryn wrote:On April 18 2013 21:41 Heartland wrote:
I wonder if a few progamers on twitter are eating their words now : P Who tweeted what? @LiquidRet 13m Let's wait till flash wins 3 gsls and then we get a patch..with WCS/DH next week..this sucksl. Already did 3 tournaments in this garbage @AcerScarlett 33m at least i get to feel what it was like for zergs in 1st year of WoL now T_T~ Why would they want to eat those words? I guess because they posted after maru vs B4, and soulkey is rippin a new one to maru now. Its quite obvious at least Ret was talking about Flash his matches rather then maru vs B4. He even calls him by name... Not gonna lie, that makes me lose some respect for Ret. So it's ok when infestors can just fungal everything and win, but it's not ok when widow mines force a bit more micro out of the Zerg? Plus, this is fucking FlaSh we're talking about, and he didn't even play against a top 5 Zerg... Completely uncalled for. As if you can micro against 24 window mines which has lower priority than the 3 3 bioball. Seriously... I'd like to micro against widow mines, but its just not possible. Terrans should try one day to micro with the swarm against mines. They'd see. Because, I can easily micro marines against banelings. I can micro the swarm agaisnt 4-6 widow mines. But i cant micro against 24 widow that my units doesnt even attack, they just run over it. I have to FOCUS FIRE every mine. I think terrans dont realize how hard it is. yeah, so Zerg is way harder to play now. They do very well at the top level though, and the balancing should be done at that very top level. Thats life, pun intended, when there are three different races. Unfortunately for Ret and Scarlett it seems like they have to work hard to find a solution for now, because there wil be no big patch any time soon, and there is a very good reason for that: Korean zergs do fine.
I guess they were doing fine before terrans started double factory reactored 
But we'll see.
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see, just suicide into static defense, still worth it
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Really fast defensive reactions by Soulkey so far, he's on the ball. Please keep it together Soulkey <3
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Hellbatlol. Imagine if he had actually used his medivacs.
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LOL only the hellbats remain. Completely unscathed.
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I just tuned in to the LR, thought it would've been over by now, must've been some long matches..
How were the games, some nice ones I hope?
Flash 4-0 like a bonjwa!
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Actually Flash did beat Life, oh wait..
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On April 18 2013 22:08 MasterOfPuppets wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 22:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 18 2013 22:06 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 18 2013 22:05 Lysanias wrote:On April 18 2013 22:00 nomyx wrote:On April 18 2013 21:59 ETisME wrote:On April 18 2013 21:57 Kommander wrote:On April 18 2013 21:54 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 18 2013 21:51 Assirra wrote:On April 18 2013 21:50 Godwrath wrote:
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I guess because they posted after maru vs B4, and soulkey is rippin a new one to maru now. Its quite obvious at least Ret was talking about Flash his matches rather then maru vs B4. He even calls him by name... Not gonna lie, that makes me lose some respect for Ret. So it's ok when infestors can just fungal everything and win, but it's not ok when widow mines force a bit more micro out of the Zerg? Plus, this is fucking FlaSh we're talking about, and he didn't even play against a top 5 Zerg... Completely uncalled for. Yeah, this so called Terran "imbalance" vs zerg is nowhere near the level of BL + infestor. I know Life is on another level but Zergs should really take a look at what he's doing because it works against Terran. bl infestor is still no where as imbalanced as pre ghost nerf terran though Luckily that lasted two weeks while BL-Infestor lasted a year 6 months don't talk out of your ass please, Terran dominated an entire year they only race to do so in Sc2. MMA and Mvp bad players right? They only won tournaments in 2011 because Terran was too strong? Is that what you're trying to say? No but the GSL was stuffed with average players who were Code S because they played terran. How about, they were Code S because the GSL format was not exactly the best? Remember Trickster, Kyrix, San, Fruitdealer, InCa, HongUn and others? They also stuck around for quite a long time. ^^
InCa v NesTea was the best finals ever.
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