• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 22:28
CET 04:28
KST 12:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT25Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0241LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker16
StarCraft 2
General
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Liquipedia WCS Portal Launched Kaelaris on the futue of SC2 and much more... How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) How do the "codes" work in GSL? Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
Recent recommended BW games BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Do you consider PvZ imbalanced? CasterMuse Youtube
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Fighting Spirit mining rates Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Diablo 2 thread Path of Exile Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1897 users

[Code S] RO32 Group F 2013 WCS Korea Season 1 - Page 92

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 90 91 92 93 94 95 Next
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 21:56:07
April 17 2013 21:55 GMT
#1821
--- Nuked ---
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 17 2013 22:00 GMT
#1822
Rain is the only player I've ever heard of that's called way better than his opponent after getting completely outplayed 2 games in a row
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 17 2013 22:02 GMT
#1823
On April 18 2013 07:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Rain is the only player I've ever heard of that's called way better than his opponent after getting completely outplayed 2 games in a row

nah there are a few more, often they are foreigners or kespa players haha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
April 17 2013 22:06 GMT
#1824
--- Nuked ---
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 17 2013 22:17 GMT
#1825
all my brotoss keep losing fuck this shit d;
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
April 17 2013 22:18 GMT
#1826
--- Nuked ---
Addicted2Dreaming
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada116 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 23:19:33
April 17 2013 23:10 GMT
#1827
On April 18 2013 06:09 Maghetti wrote:
I am reading through this thread as I watch the vods(i dont know the results) and I am so fucking pissed I can't help but type this. Gumiho advancing over rain is a travesty. Rain is the best protoss or at worst top 3(and that nonsense by opterown saying rain is a lesser creator is hilarious when creator is at best a mid tier code s player not not even in the discussion of best protoss in the world) and to have a group with the best terran and top 3 protoss to have a low or maybe mid tier terran advance over either one of them is horrible. I'm sure some how im going to find that Innovation gets knocked out too and ill need a new computer screen.

Laughably ignorant; not worth the time.

On April 18 2013 06:25 fezvez wrote:
I agree with you about how Rain is easily top 3 protoss in the world.

I also agree that GumiHo is not top 3 terran in the world.

But, this day, Gumiho just played superbly. Gumiho is an inconsistent player, able to destroy his opponents in GSTL before losing to much lesser players (though, not at the same extent as Bomber) and never going far far far in a GSL. Rain on the other hand is muh more consistent. I felt his play was beautiful yesterday. But his beautiful play was overshadowed by Gumiho's even sexier play.

What may annoy you is that Gumiho might bomb out of the Ro16 because of his inconsistency, whereas Rain would have triumphed. True. But yesterday, Gumiho was the better player.

And don't start about how Terran is OP, it is not.

Gumiho may technically be inconsistent according to his individual results, but this 'quality' of being inconsistent is not inherent or innate; rather, said inconsistency can be owed to poor luck.

Gumi has always been a Code S Champion contender, and this is evidenced in even the most generic of his play. Any unbiased person who 'knows their StarCraft' would acknowledge this (unfortunately such folk seem to be far and few between). Single-handedly acquiring his team 'GSTL Champion' status twice (all-kill followed by reverse triple) only serves to further attest to the kid's staggering potential.

And speaking of consistency; I'd say Gumi's been pretty damn consistent with providing us some of the absolute highest-quality, most entertaining games of all time through his prodigy: unrivaled, relentless multitasking; innovation in the contexts of strategy and unit composition/employment; unique, always-in-your-face, bare-knuckled playstyle; and those 'cute', clutch, super sexy micro moves that we can expect nigh every game from Gumi...these moves may be replicated and Gumi may not necessarily be the originator...but, certainly, no other player delivers or provides them at nearly such a frequency.

Gumi's play just never fails to make me smile. It's truly awe-inspiring in its own way. The kid works his ass off, and it shows. He even refuses to leave Korea till he's won a GSL. Truly worthy of admiration. And yet so criminally underrated for whatever reason. Perhaps the blind/ignorant fanboys (*cough* Maghetti *cough*) don't find him as sexy/cute as MKP or some equally abominable, vomit-inducing, heinous reason.
favs = leenock, gumiho, sC, life, sniper, jjakji, mvp, tear, innovation, polt, mc, dream
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
April 17 2013 23:31 GMT
#1828
On April 18 2013 07:06 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 07:02 opterown wrote:
On April 18 2013 07:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Rain is the only player I've ever heard of that's called way better than his opponent after getting completely outplayed 2 games in a row

nah there are a few more, often they are foreigners or kespa players haha

Stephano, Mvp, Flash, Rain, Bisu, Idra, Fantasy, HerO

Did I get them all?

MKP, Nestea?

Basically just overhyped fan faves. I think it actually happens a lot.
Liquid | SKT
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
April 17 2013 23:34 GMT
#1829
--- Nuked ---
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
April 17 2013 23:48 GMT
#1830
On April 18 2013 08:34 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 08:31 DamageControL wrote:
On April 18 2013 07:06 Emzeeshady wrote:
On April 18 2013 07:02 opterown wrote:
On April 18 2013 07:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Rain is the only player I've ever heard of that's called way better than his opponent after getting completely outplayed 2 games in a row

nah there are a few more, often they are foreigners or kespa players haha

Stephano, Mvp, Flash, Rain, Bisu, Idra, Fantasy, HerO

Did I get them all?

MKP, Nestea?

Basically just overhyped fan faves. I think it actually happens a lot.

I think Nestea fans are not serious though. Flash fans are actually deluded enough to think he is the best -_-.


Also quite unfortunately Nestea fans haven't had anything "big" to cheer about lately, so maybe it's just an older memory.

I'm not a Nestea fan, but that thought still makes me sad. He used to be so boss. Then he won the Nestea award.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 23:51:56
April 17 2013 23:50 GMT
#1831
On April 18 2013 08:34 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 08:31 DamageControL wrote:
On April 18 2013 07:06 Emzeeshady wrote:
On April 18 2013 07:02 opterown wrote:
On April 18 2013 07:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Rain is the only player I've ever heard of that's called way better than his opponent after getting completely outplayed 2 games in a row

nah there are a few more, often they are foreigners or kespa players haha

Stephano, Mvp, Flash, Rain, Bisu, Idra, Fantasy, HerO

Did I get them all?

MKP, Nestea?

Basically just overhyped fan faves. I think it actually happens a lot.

I think Nestea fans are not serious though. Flash fans are actually deluded enough to think he is the best -_-.


But he's the best, it will be delusional to not acknowledge that.

He will be in Code B next season to show people that he can go straight from code B to WCS season final champion in one season.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 17 2013 23:53 GMT
#1832
On April 18 2013 08:31 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 07:06 Emzeeshady wrote:
On April 18 2013 07:02 opterown wrote:
On April 18 2013 07:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Rain is the only player I've ever heard of that's called way better than his opponent after getting completely outplayed 2 games in a row

nah there are a few more, often they are foreigners or kespa players haha

Stephano, Mvp, Flash, Rain, Bisu, Idra, Fantasy, HerO

Did I get them all?

MKP, Nestea?

Basically just overhyped fan faves. I think it actually happens a lot.

Well, to be fair MKP is always the better player. It's not being a blind fanboy to say the truth.

+ Show Spoiler +
^_^
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 23:59:54
April 17 2013 23:59 GMT
#1833
On April 18 2013 08:34 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 08:31 DamageControL wrote:
On April 18 2013 07:06 Emzeeshady wrote:
On April 18 2013 07:02 opterown wrote:
On April 18 2013 07:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Rain is the only player I've ever heard of that's called way better than his opponent after getting completely outplayed 2 games in a row

nah there are a few more, often they are foreigners or kespa players haha

Stephano, Mvp, Flash, Rain, Bisu, Idra, Fantasy, HerO

Did I get them all?

MKP, Nestea?

Basically just overhyped fan faves. I think it actually happens a lot.

I think Nestea fans are not serious though. Flash fans are actually deluded enough to think he is the best -_-.


yeah lets completely forget the part of "greatest starcraft player of all time" for the sake of his rather short sc2 career
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
April 18 2013 00:12 GMT
#1834
Gumiho!!!!!!

Yeaaah :D
snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
April 18 2013 00:16 GMT
#1835
Results arent suprising and really rain played very well no shame losing to innovation. Rain lost one game because he forgot the range on lance upgrade so I mean rain made a few mistakes but only looked outplayed because of the skill of his opponents. Rain is still easily one of if not the top protoss player right now.
TimENT
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 00:24:11
April 18 2013 00:20 GMT
#1836
On April 18 2013 07:06 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 07:02 opterown wrote:
On April 18 2013 07:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Rain is the only player I've ever heard of that's called way better than his opponent after getting completely outplayed 2 games in a row

nah there are a few more, often they are foreigners or kespa players haha

Stephano, Mvp, Flash, Rain, Bisu, Idra, Fantasy, HerO

Did I get them all?


Ironic that you left out Nestea and Leenock

I literally listened to people say that Nestea is better than his opponents for 2 years while losing fifty games
Barcelona / Arsenal Fan!
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
April 18 2013 00:22 GMT
#1837
--- Nuked ---
theMagus
Profile Joined February 2013
578 Posts
April 18 2013 00:34 GMT
#1838
grats innovation. rain, son, i am disappoint. was expecting more out of you.
"Give away the stone. Let the oceans take and transmutate this cold and fated anchor. Let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges into gold. Let go."
theMagus
Profile Joined February 2013
578 Posts
April 18 2013 00:37 GMT
#1839
On April 18 2013 08:10 Addicted2Dreaming wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 06:09 Maghetti wrote:
I am reading through this thread as I watch the vods(i dont know the results) and I am so fucking pissed I can't help but type this. Gumiho advancing over rain is a travesty. Rain is the best protoss or at worst top 3(and that nonsense by opterown saying rain is a lesser creator is hilarious when creator is at best a mid tier code s player not not even in the discussion of best protoss in the world) and to have a group with the best terran and top 3 protoss to have a low or maybe mid tier terran advance over either one of them is horrible. I'm sure some how im going to find that Innovation gets knocked out too and ill need a new computer screen.

Laughably ignorant; not worth the time.

Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 06:25 fezvez wrote:
I agree with you about how Rain is easily top 3 protoss in the world.

I also agree that GumiHo is not top 3 terran in the world.

But, this day, Gumiho just played superbly. Gumiho is an inconsistent player, able to destroy his opponents in GSTL before losing to much lesser players (though, not at the same extent as Bomber) and never going far far far in a GSL. Rain on the other hand is muh more consistent. I felt his play was beautiful yesterday. But his beautiful play was overshadowed by Gumiho's even sexier play.

What may annoy you is that Gumiho might bomb out of the Ro16 because of his inconsistency, whereas Rain would have triumphed. True. But yesterday, Gumiho was the better player.

And don't start about how Terran is OP, it is not.

Gumiho may technically be inconsistent according to his individual results, but this 'quality' of being inconsistent is not inherent or innate; rather, said inconsistency can be owed to poor luck.

Gumi has always been a Code S Champion contender, and this is evidenced in even the most generic of his play. Any unbiased person who 'knows their StarCraft' would acknowledge this (unfortunately such folk seem to be far and few between). Single-handedly acquiring his team 'GSTL Champion' status twice (all-kill followed by reverse triple) only serves to further attest to the kid's staggering potential.

And speaking of consistency; I'd say Gumi's been pretty damn consistent with providing us some of the absolute highest-quality, most entertaining games of all time through his prodigy: unrivaled, relentless multitasking; innovation in the contexts of strategy and unit composition/employment; unique, always-in-your-face, bare-knuckled playstyle; and those 'cute', clutch, super sexy micro moves that we can expect nigh every game from Gumi...these moves may be replicated and Gumi may not necessarily be the originator...but, certainly, no other player delivers or provides them at nearly such a frequency.

Gumi's play just never fails to make me smile. It's truly awe-inspiring in its own way. The kid works his ass off, and it shows. He even refuses to leave Korea till he's won a GSL. Truly worthy of admiration. And yet so criminally underrated for whatever reason. Perhaps the blind/ignorant fanboys (*cough* Maghetti *cough*) don't find him as sexy/cute as MKP or some equally abominable, vomit-inducing, heinous reason.


hahaha
"Give away the stone. Let the oceans take and transmutate this cold and fated anchor. Let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges into gold. Let go."
Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
April 18 2013 00:40 GMT
#1840
On April 18 2013 09:22 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 09:20 TimENT wrote:
On April 18 2013 07:06 Emzeeshady wrote:
On April 18 2013 07:02 opterown wrote:
On April 18 2013 07:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Rain is the only player I've ever heard of that's called way better than his opponent after getting completely outplayed 2 games in a row

nah there are a few more, often they are foreigners or kespa players haha

Stephano, Mvp, Flash, Rain, Bisu, Idra, Fantasy, HerO

Did I get them all?


Ironic that you left out Nestea and Leenock

Like I said before no one thinks Nestea is actually good (at least in the last 6 months, wasn't here before then).

I don't know what you are talking about with Leenock. If anything he is underrated.


Leenock is overrated by winning foreigner tournaments.
Prev 1 90 91 92 93 94 95 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
HomeStory Cup 28 - Playoffs
CranKy Ducklings194
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 229
Nathanias 94
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 4552
ggaemo 233
NaDa 58
Icarus 5
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm57
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 661
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor204
Other Games
summit1g11074
C9.Mang0533
ViBE48
Mew2King34
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1063
BasetradeTV154
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 88
• davetesta21
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV651
League of Legends
• Doublelift5055
• Scarra1771
• Lourlo867
Upcoming Events
PiG Sty Festival
5h 32m
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6h 32m
Replay Cast
20h 32m
Replay Cast
1d 5h
Wardi Open
1d 8h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 13h
Replay Cast
1d 20h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.