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[WCS EU] Premier Division Qualifiers - Page 264

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Zyzz12
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany135 Posts
April 17 2013 16:46 GMT
#5261
On April 18 2013 01:42 Zode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 01:39 KillAudio wrote:
On April 18 2013 01:37 Zode wrote:
Got a bye in 2048, next opponent is a Master T, he's offline. #rd round will probably be vs Xlord.. d'ah jesus lols.

Cheese him then send the replay to Stephano.


Already have the cheese planned and a tab opened with stephano's twitter up.


Can you tell me whats up with that? Thanks.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
April 17 2013 16:46 GMT
#5262
On April 18 2013 01:44 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 01:42 grs wrote:
On April 18 2013 01:41 Yhamm wrote:
On April 18 2013 01:40 Bunn wrote:
Are BitterdaM going to cast this?

Blizzard said no, or something like that

Blzzard said, they have to rename their stream to WCS instead of NASL, which is perfectly reasonable.


Yep, I would've taken the free publicity as NASL, instead of insisting to stream on their own channel which even ESL is not allowed to do.


How about the last 20 streamers streaming ECS EU qualifiers in the list on the right. Are they "official WCS Channels?" I doubt it.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
April 17 2013 16:47 GMT
#5263
On April 18 2013 01:44 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 01:42 grs wrote:
On April 18 2013 01:41 Yhamm wrote:
On April 18 2013 01:40 Bunn wrote:
Are BitterdaM going to cast this?

Blizzard said no, or something like that

Blzzard said, they have to rename their stream to WCS instead of NASL, which is perfectly reasonable.


They would have to stream it THROUGH the WCS stream (WCS_Europe2 or something of that nature). IE, they wouldn't make any revenue off it. Seems bad.

Source

Community streams have never been paid to cast...it was stupid of them to think so. NASL can cast as much as they want and should stop pretending like someone is stopping them...it is their choice not to cast. If you want to be mad at someone, be mad at them.
🥇 Prediction Contest - Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
April 17 2013 16:47 GMT
#5264
Turns out the player I beat actually rage-quit and hasn't updated the match result, so I'll have to wait...
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
April 17 2013 16:47 GMT
#5265
bracket disabled, at least you can access your matches now. but i still got freewin and waiting for opponent that has also a freewin
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
April 17 2013 16:48 GMT
#5266
When I try to load the brackets, I get a completely white page with the text:

"StarCraft II World Championship Series 2013 Season 1 Qualifier #4

Continue to matches
Brackets are currently disabled"
hundred thousand krouner
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
April 17 2013 16:48 GMT
#5267
On April 18 2013 01:46 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 01:44 Musicus wrote:
On April 18 2013 01:42 grs wrote:
On April 18 2013 01:41 Yhamm wrote:
On April 18 2013 01:40 Bunn wrote:
Are BitterdaM going to cast this?

Blizzard said no, or something like that

Blzzard said, they have to rename their stream to WCS instead of NASL, which is perfectly reasonable.


Yep, I would've taken the free publicity as NASL, instead of insisting to stream on their own channel which even ESL is not allowed to do.


How about the last 20 streamers streaming ECS EU qualifiers in the list on the right. Are they "official WCS Channels?" I doubt it.


This rule only applies to english streams.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
April 17 2013 16:48 GMT
#5268
On April 18 2013 01:44 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 01:42 grs wrote:
On April 18 2013 01:41 Yhamm wrote:
On April 18 2013 01:40 Bunn wrote:
Are BitterdaM going to cast this?

Blizzard said no, or something like that

Blzzard said, they have to rename their stream to WCS instead of NASL, which is perfectly reasonable.


Yep, I would've taken the free publicity as NASL, instead of insisting to stream on their own channel which even ESL is not allowed to do.

They are investing in their production , can't blame them to want a little something in return ..
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
April 17 2013 16:48 GMT
#5269
I wonder if Blizzard can't just make an exception to avoid all the drama.

Everbody's turned upside down .
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 16:50:16
April 17 2013 16:48 GMT
#5270
So I can watch the official english stream but not the french stream ._.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Zode
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada297 Posts
April 17 2013 16:48 GMT
#5271
On April 18 2013 01:46 Zyzz12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 01:42 Zode wrote:
On April 18 2013 01:39 KillAudio wrote:
On April 18 2013 01:37 Zode wrote:
Got a bye in 2048, next opponent is a Master T, he's offline. #rd round will probably be vs Xlord.. d'ah jesus lols.

Cheese him then send the replay to Stephano.


Already have the cheese planned and a tab opened with stephano's twitter up.


Can you tell me whats up with that? Thanks.


Idk, what IS up with that?
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
April 17 2013 16:49 GMT
#5272
On April 18 2013 01:47 Prplppleatr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 01:44 TheDougler wrote:
On April 18 2013 01:42 grs wrote:
On April 18 2013 01:41 Yhamm wrote:
On April 18 2013 01:40 Bunn wrote:
Are BitterdaM going to cast this?

Blizzard said no, or something like that

Blzzard said, they have to rename their stream to WCS instead of NASL, which is perfectly reasonable.


They would have to stream it THROUGH the WCS stream (WCS_Europe2 or something of that nature). IE, they wouldn't make any revenue off it. Seems bad.

Source

Community streams have never been paid to cast...it was stupid of them to think so. NASL can cast as much as they want and should stop pretending like someone is stopping them...it is their choice not to cast. If you want to be mad at someone, be mad at them.


Community streams get paid by their viewers/commercials. That's the only thing NASL wants but it is not allowed.
Neosteel Enthusiast
faiza
Profile Joined June 2012
United States451 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 17:16:49
April 17 2013 16:50 GMT
#5273
Had brief access to the bracket, so going to try put together a "notable players" list as was done in past threads. Will update if I get access to the bracket again, but most of these players got a bye into the RO1024

RO2048
(P)Welmu
(P)gaulzi
(Z)AlaStOr
(T)Naama
(Z)MaddeLisk
(P)NeOAnGeL
(Z)HappyZerG
(Z)Starbuck
(P)ABomB
(Z)DeathAngel
(Z)ParanOid
(Z)Cella
(T)GoOdy
(P)NightEnD
(Z)Minato
(P)Siw
(P)Tarrantius
(T)SjoW
(Z)Ziktomini
(P)viPro
(T)Tarson
(Z)XiGua
(P)PandaTank
(Z)Hanfy
(P)KroLu
(P)Adelscott
(P)Bischu
(T)BRAT_OK
(Z)XlorD
(Z)Avekatten
(P)White-Ra
(T)MorroW
(T)nathanias
(T)Fuzer
Vasa
(P)Fraer
(P)BlinG
(P)RunA
(Z)Miniraser
(P)NaRa
(P)PsiOniC
(P)elfi
(Z)Protosser
(Z)TargA
(P)ToxiC
(P)Pink
(Z)ho8ot
(P)Indy
(Z)Tefel
(P)StarNaN
(T)MikOeL
(T)DieStar
(Z)CENSURE
(P)AcRo
(P)duckdeok)
(Z)LoWeLy
(Z)Aristeo
hOpe
(P)Noticimus
(T)MentalKing (c.Shuttle)
(Z)LaLuSh
(T)kauP
(P)Harstem
(Z)LiveZerg
(Z)Delphi
(P)ShowTime
(P)TAiLS
(Z)JonnyREcco
(Z)Cytoplasm
(Z)IeZaeL
(P)Krr
(T)Beastyqt
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
April 17 2013 16:50 GMT
#5274
LiveZerg - Mate : http://www.twitch.tv/WCS_Europe & http://www.twitch.tv/esl_poland2
Moman - Hilmaro : http://www.twitch.tv/esl_fr_tv2 (starting soon)
Tsarputin - Knowme : http://www.twitch.tv/empiretvzerg & http://www.twitch.tv/mori09tv
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 17 2013 16:50 GMT
#5275
quick get Khaldor to sort out the tournament tree ! He will be able to handle that traffic !
ThePianoDentist
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom698 Posts
April 17 2013 16:51 GMT
#5276
how do i get in touch with esl admins. because the website was down my opponent couldnt submit match result.

and it still say waiting for opponent but hes gone?
Brood War Protoss, SC2 Terran/Protoss
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3358 Posts
April 17 2013 16:51 GMT
#5277
On April 18 2013 01:48 Aeromi wrote:
So I an watch the official english stream but not the french stream ._.

You can watch stream of any language that is not English or the official English stream.
Or player stream in any language as long as it's not cast by unofficial professional casters in English.
So it's exactly like yesterday except NASL is not allowed to cast.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
April 17 2013 16:51 GMT
#5278
guys no nasl today?
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4552 Posts
April 17 2013 16:51 GMT
#5279
50 minutes, still haven't got to play a game or look at the bracket

woop woop
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
April 17 2013 16:51 GMT
#5280
On April 18 2013 01:47 Prplppleatr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 01:44 TheDougler wrote:
On April 18 2013 01:42 grs wrote:
On April 18 2013 01:41 Yhamm wrote:
On April 18 2013 01:40 Bunn wrote:
Are BitterdaM going to cast this?

Blizzard said no, or something like that

Blzzard said, they have to rename their stream to WCS instead of NASL, which is perfectly reasonable.


They would have to stream it THROUGH the WCS stream (WCS_Europe2 or something of that nature). IE, they wouldn't make any revenue off it. Seems bad.

Source

Community streams have never been paid to cast...



Wut.

Seriously, do you not understand that ALL community streams get paid to cast? By twitch? That's what we're talking about here. If NASL streamed it through their channel, they'd get the twitch money. If through blizzards channel, then blizzard gets the money. The only difference between NASL doing it and say, This dude. is that NASL would take away the majority of the viewers from ESL, like they did yesterday, because most people believe they do a better job. Most of the 25 streams of WCS EU right now make their own money, but since most of those are less than 100 viewers it's not a big deal.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
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