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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:36 s3rp wrote: SPL is really early somewhere 3am to 6am , right ? Sometimes it might be at different times but not times i can watch regularly IRC: It can be at 4AM but usually its 8AM and the second match 10:30AM. But yea, happens to be early sometimes | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On April 10 2013 23:59 Giriath wrote: Good prediction based on sound knowledge. He didn't play MKP but if he did I imagine he would've done even better than Curious did. That's what it's all about. | ||
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Giriath
Sweden2412 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:41 ChoiSulli wrote: Oh it matters. I despise anyone that is a fan of ESF. I think BW is superior in every way over SC2 and that KESPA players are the best RTS players. So by them crushing ESF guys I think it validates my believe. Its one of the main reasons I follow the SC2 scene. I also dont get why people get upset when someone posts about one or the other superiority. Thats the kind of stuff that makes rooting for sports so fun. As long as its done in a not in your face way, I dont see anything wrong with it. I would love to have SC2 get to a point where you go to a live event, and some players actually get booed and stuff (minus of course flash cause thats just not cool). But yeah it matters to some of us, I'll never ever root for ESF and wont be satisfied till they all go back to being B-team dishwashers, harsh I know, but its how I feel. It's not about the superiority of the players, it's about the attitude of people like you who appear to somehow feel like you're a part of KesPA and thus superior to eSF fans. Hint: you're not. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
On April 10 2013 23:19 Otolia wrote: Go back to the terrible BW forums and stay there. We don't need your pathetic sense of superiority here. the BW forums is pretty nice. you need to chill out good sir. | ||
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Flonomenalz
Nigeria3519 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:41 ChoiSulli wrote: Oh it matters. I despise anyone that is a fan of ESF. I think BW is superior in every way over SC2 and that KESPA players are the best RTS players. So by them crushing ESF guys I think it validates my believe. Its one of the main reasons I follow the SC2 scene. I also dont get why people get upset when someone posts about one or the other superiority. Thats the kind of stuff that makes rooting for sports so fun. As long as its done in a not in your face way, I dont see anything wrong with it. I would love to have SC2 get to a point where you go to a live event, and some players actually get booed and stuff (minus of course flash cause thats just not cool). But yeah it matters to some of us, I'll never ever root for ESF and wont be satisfied till they all go back to being B-team dishwashers, harsh I know, but its how I feel. Lol wow. You realize, in other sports, that players get boo'd for things like team switching, rough fouls, etc? Not simply being on the other team. I don't see how it has anything to do with superiority of games; the ESF players simply weren't as good at the predecessor. That's no indication of what will happen now. Yeah, let's promote hostility and boo players in a competitive game environment that we have no idea will have lasting value, unlike real sports. That makes so much sense. I can't even begin to wrap my mind around hating ESF players that mostly practice just as much as Kespa players simply because they rose to fame in a different game. But hey, it's your opinion. | ||
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Merfyn
United Kingdom945 Posts
What we saw today was a MKP got dominated by a zerg and a protoss, nothing else. This group was very weak overall and HotS is still a new game. Lets wait a few months before shouting bloody mary about who is dominating etc. | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:41 Type|NarutO wrote: It can be at 4AM but usually its 8AM and the second match 10:30AM. But yea, happens to be early sometimes Yeah like i said i'm barely able to catch it . Unless it's around GSL times and even then the casting is really subpar . Biggest reason i didn't watch was back when it was WoL because i wasn't watching any WoL tournaments anymore. Might catch it @ GSL times in the future though probably muted. | ||
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waylander_
United States82 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:41 ChoiSulli wrote: Oh it matters. I despise anyone that is a fan of ESF. I think BW is superior in every way over SC2 and that KESPA players are the best RTS players. So by them crushing ESF guys I think it validates my believe. Its one of the main reasons I follow the SC2 scene. I also dont get why people get upset when someone posts about one or the other superiority. Thats the kind of stuff that makes rooting for sports so fun. As long as its done in a not in your face way, I dont see anything wrong with it. I would love to have SC2 get to a point where you go to a live event, and some players actually get booed and stuff (minus of course flash cause thats just not cool). But yeah it matters to some of us, I'll never ever root for ESF and wont be satisfied till they all go back to being B-team dishwashers, harsh I know, but its how I feel. well said. People can cheer or boo for who they want, for whatever reason they want. That's the beauty of real sports and a stepping stone esports will have to overcome. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:41 ChoiSulli wrote: Oh it matters. I despise anyone that is a fan of ESF. I think BW is superior in every way over SC2 and that KESPA players are the best RTS players. So by them crushing ESF guys I think it validates my believe. Its one of the main reasons I follow the SC2 scene. I also dont get why people get upset when someone posts about one or the other superiority. Thats the kind of stuff that makes rooting for sports so fun. As long as its done in a not in your face way, I dont see anything wrong with it. I would love to have SC2 get to a point where you go to a live event, and some players actually get booed and stuff (minus of course flash cause thats just not cool). But yeah it matters to some of us, I'll never ever root for ESF and wont be satisfied till they all go back to being B-team dishwashers, harsh I know, but its how I feel. Lol that's ridiculous. I'll all with Shellshock on this, we really shouldn't care for Kespa vs ESF. They're not players, and they're not even teams. It's really meaningless... Except to try to stir shit on forums, I guess. That's like if you rooted for people sponsored by Nike and trashtalked people sponsored by Adidas in real sports. Who the fuck cares. | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:54 Flonomenalz wrote: Lol wow. You realize, in other sports, that players get boo'd for things like team switching, rough fouls, etc? Not simply being on the other team. I don't see how it has anything to do with superiority of games; the ESF players simply weren't as good at the predecessor. That's no indication of what will happen now. Yeah, let's promote hostility and boo players in a competitive game environment that we have no idea will have lasting value, unlike real sports. That makes so much sense. I can't even begin to wrap my mind around hating ESF players that mostly practice just as much as Kespa players simply because they rose to fame in a different game. But hey, it's your opinion. Not to mention some of the better eSF players are pretty young and started off with SC2 , never even tried to get in Kespa teams and didn't even play that much BW. But hey lets hate them anyway for no reason ^^ . | ||
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sinigang
360 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:59 waylander_ wrote: well said. People can cheer or boo for who they want, for whatever reason they want. That's the beauty of real sports and a stepping stone esports will have to overcome. Hear, hear.  | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:59 waylander_ wrote: well said. People can cheer or boo for who they want, for whatever reason they want. That's the beauty of real sports and a stepping stone esports will have to overcome. SC2 players are fragile 15-24 year olds who rarely finish HS or go to college. This is different from other professional sports with players in their early to late 20s and 30s, who have experienced the animosity you describe in school and in their sports. Asians also have a different culture. Boo/hate/shit on anyone from Life to JangBi to Flash to Mvp and I bet all my esports dollars it would break them mentally. It might be fun for you but I am certain none of these players want you to hate on their rivals. I can understand hating on other fans (KT vs SKT fans is always hilarious, and I hate those dirty dirty Startale fans), but shitting on players just because they play for a certain organization that they had little choice in forming is silly. Respect the players. No need to respect their fans. | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
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LightAngels
United States299 Posts
On April 10 2013 23:08 sinigang wrote: I think a major reason this is happening is because KeSPA fans felt disrespected back in 2010 when new fans who only followed SC2 and eSF players started proclaiming new gods and heroes of StarCraft (which were mere B-teamers and punching bags in BW by the way). KeSPA fans couldn't stand that these players were freeloading in SC2 while their heroes were stuck playing BW and had to go through a long and tough transition period. Now that that's over and KeSPA is here to stay for good, the old school fans are seeking a sense of vindication. This will last until tournaments are dominantly represented by KeSPA (which includes KeSPA picking up straggling eSF pros).  Basically this. Just because there are some new unstoppable players winning tournaments that ppl start proclaiming them gods. Like MC who has many titles (boss toss,suicide toss....) actually was a unknown noob in BW (no offense) and they don't know anything about the true gods of SC....TBLS...etc.... I'm sure almost BW's fans (if not all) have this in mind. That includes me as well, but I'm not as extreme as the others. I don't want to argue or cause war between two groups. I just keep silence and look forward to the future. Time will tell ESF's fan that their heroes are not that great just because they started playing SCII sooner than the others and now Kespa's players are coming to take the throne back. | ||
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weiliem
2070 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:41 ChoiSulli wrote: Oh it matters. I despise anyone that is a fan of ESF. I think BW is superior in every way over SC2 and that KESPA players are the best RTS players. So by them crushing ESF guys I think it validates my believe. Its one of the main reasons I follow the SC2 scene. I also dont get why people get upset when someone posts about one or the other superiority. Thats the kind of stuff that makes rooting for sports so fun. As long as its done in a not in your face way, I dont see anything wrong with it. I would love to have SC2 get to a point where you go to a live event, and some players actually get booed and stuff (minus of course flash cause thats just not cool). But yeah it matters to some of us, I'll never ever root for ESF and wont be satisfied till they all go back to being B-team dishwashers, harsh I know, but its how I feel. The fuck. There's no "Team Kespa" and "Team ESF". If you want to support a team, then support an actual team, not a side in some made up conflict between two associations based on politics. Kespa has existed for like a decade so far, and I don't think I've ever seen anybody on TL calling himself a "Kespa fan" until last year. If you want to talk about how superior SKT is, I'm sure nobody will have a problem with it. Well, SKT is obviously superior, so that makes sense. But I guess you could also talk about how superior KT is, and nobody will have a problem with it. They'll just see you as slightly misguided.  | ||
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waylander_
United States82 Posts
On April 11 2013 01:08 weiliem wrote: Wtf? MKP lost? =.= Skill cap increased in HOTS. don't expect him to stick around; he was already slumping at the end of wings. | ||
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ffrozenfish
820 Posts
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On April 11 2013 01:25 ffrozenfish wrote: Wow MKP did not win a single set, I felt Terran in HoTS was perfect for MKP He played really bad. He hasn't played like the MKP that made him so popular for so long. It's not even his opponents became so much better . He just lost his touch, somehow. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On April 11 2013 01:10 waylander_ wrote: Skill cap increased in HOTS. don't expect him to stick around; he was already slumping at the end of wings. Lul. You know nothing, Jon Snow. | ||
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