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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
April 10 2013 14:00 GMT
#1321
On April 10 2013 22:34 opterown wrote:
the strange thing is that i don't see many (if at all) insufferable esf fans going esf >>> kespa when kespa players lose

There are some. But yeah, it is a destructive way of showing your support and it leads to a downward spiral when the other side later will do the same thing as soon as they get a chance.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 10 2013 14:01 GMT
#1322
On April 10 2013 23:00 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 22:34 opterown wrote:
the strange thing is that i don't see many (if at all) insufferable esf fans going esf >>> kespa when kespa players lose

There are some. But yeah, it is a destructive way of showing your support and it leads to a downward spiral when the other side later will do the same thing as soon as they get a chance.

the worst was WCS KR, with one week kespa players losing, the next week they won, and after that they lost, etc. lol, LRing those was horrible
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 14:03:05
April 10 2013 14:02 GMT
#1323
On April 10 2013 23:01 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 23:00 Elroi wrote:
On April 10 2013 22:34 opterown wrote:
the strange thing is that i don't see many (if at all) insufferable esf fans going esf >>> kespa when kespa players lose

There are some. But yeah, it is a destructive way of showing your support and it leads to a downward spiral when the other side later will do the same thing as soon as they get a chance.

the worst was WCS KR, with one week kespa players losing, the next week they won, and after that they lost, etc. lol, LRing those was horrible


Heh I remember that because HerO knocked them all out until he had to forfeit. There were manner nexi iirc.

HerO > Kespa circlejerk gogo
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 14:10:31
April 10 2013 14:08 GMT
#1324
It's very hard to beat an SC1 pro in ZvZ. The only thing these guys did in BW was muta and ling micro. Jaedong would face-stomp Life in a ZvZ.
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
sinigang
Profile Joined August 2012
360 Posts
April 10 2013 14:08 GMT
#1325
On April 10 2013 22:56 slowbacontron wrote:
I saw plenty of esf fans in the previews for this group who claimed that Curious and MKP were easily going to win, probably because they hadn't paid any attention to the Kespa scene. But yes, it's the Kespa fans who come crowing over every frikkin' victory these days because Kespa is the cool thing to support, the "new" kids on the block (maybe an opportunity for the old fans to flaunt their superiority).


I think a major reason this is happening is because KeSPA fans felt disrespected back in 2010 when new fans who only followed SC2 and eSF players started proclaiming new gods and heroes of StarCraft (which were mere B-teamers and punching bags in BW by the way). KeSPA fans couldn't stand that these players were freeloading in SC2 while their heroes were stuck playing BW and had to go through a long and tough transition period. Now that that's over and KeSPA is here to stay for good, the old school fans are seeking a sense of vindication. This will last until tournaments are dominantly represented by KeSPA (which includes KeSPA picking up straggling eSF pros).

Ryncol
Profile Joined July 2011
United States980 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 14:11:01
April 10 2013 14:10 GMT
#1326
On April 10 2013 23:08 sinigang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 22:56 slowbacontron wrote:
I saw plenty of esf fans in the previews for this group who claimed that Curious and MKP were easily going to win, probably because they hadn't paid any attention to the Kespa scene. But yes, it's the Kespa fans who come crowing over every frikkin' victory these days because Kespa is the cool thing to support, the "new" kids on the block (maybe an opportunity for the old fans to flaunt their superiority).


I think a major reason this is happening is because KeSPA fans felt disrespected back in 2010 when new fans who only followed SC2 and eSF players started proclaiming new gods and heroes of StarCraft (which were mere B-teamers and punching bags in BW by the way). KeSPA fans couldn't stand that these players were freeloading in SC2 while their heroes were stuck playing BW and had to go through a long and tough transition period. Now that that's over and KeSPA is here to stay for good, the old school fans are seeking a sense of vindication. This will last until tournaments are dominantly represented by KeSPA (which includes KeSPA picking up straggling eSF pros).


Seriously?
sinigang
Profile Joined August 2012
360 Posts
April 10 2013 14:13 GMT
#1327
On April 10 2013 23:10 Ryncol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 23:08 sinigang wrote:
On April 10 2013 22:56 slowbacontron wrote:
I saw plenty of esf fans in the previews for this group who claimed that Curious and MKP were easily going to win, probably because they hadn't paid any attention to the Kespa scene. But yes, it's the Kespa fans who come crowing over every frikkin' victory these days because Kespa is the cool thing to support, the "new" kids on the block (maybe an opportunity for the old fans to flaunt their superiority).


I think a major reason this is happening is because KeSPA fans felt disrespected back in 2010 when new fans who only followed SC2 and eSF players started proclaiming new gods and heroes of StarCraft (which were mere B-teamers and punching bags in BW by the way). KeSPA fans couldn't stand that these players were freeloading in SC2 while their heroes were stuck playing BW and had to go through a long and tough transition period. Now that that's over and KeSPA is here to stay for good, the old school fans are seeking a sense of vindication. This will last until tournaments are dominantly represented by KeSPA (which includes KeSPA picking up straggling eSF pros).


Seriously?


I don't know what to call the situation where losers bully around the neighborhood when the real gang leaders aren't around.
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 14:14:21
April 10 2013 14:13 GMT
#1328
On April 10 2013 23:08 p14c wrote:
It's very hard to beat an SC1 pro in ZvZ. The only thing these guys did in BW was muta micro. Jaedong would face-stomp Life in a ZvZ.


In general you're correct but I think your example is an exceptionally bad one. In my opinion Jaedong is one of the lesser KesPA zerg players (even if his ZvZ is by far his best) while Life is without a doubt the best eSF zerg player.

I would not be surprised if Life adapts to the new ZvZ and performs at the top with players like RorO and soO.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
April 10 2013 14:16 GMT
#1329
On April 10 2013 22:55 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 22:34 opterown wrote:
the strange thing is that i don't see many (if at all) insufferable esf fans going esf >>> kespa when kespa players lose


eSF fans are teenagely nice, still naive. KeSPA fans are in midlife crisis, nasty is necessary.


so I'm having midlife crisis at the age of 20...man do i grow old fast.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 10 2013 14:19 GMT
#1330
Im glad sOs got through. Shame about MKP. Shouldnt have /dance i guess
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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
April 10 2013 14:19 GMT
#1331
On April 10 2013 23:13 sinigang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 23:10 Ryncol wrote:
On April 10 2013 23:08 sinigang wrote:
On April 10 2013 22:56 slowbacontron wrote:
I saw plenty of esf fans in the previews for this group who claimed that Curious and MKP were easily going to win, probably because they hadn't paid any attention to the Kespa scene. But yes, it's the Kespa fans who come crowing over every frikkin' victory these days because Kespa is the cool thing to support, the "new" kids on the block (maybe an opportunity for the old fans to flaunt their superiority).


I think a major reason this is happening is because KeSPA fans felt disrespected back in 2010 when new fans who only followed SC2 and eSF players started proclaiming new gods and heroes of StarCraft (which were mere B-teamers and punching bags in BW by the way). KeSPA fans couldn't stand that these players were freeloading in SC2 while their heroes were stuck playing BW and had to go through a long and tough transition period. Now that that's over and KeSPA is here to stay for good, the old school fans are seeking a sense of vindication. This will last until tournaments are dominantly represented by KeSPA (which includes KeSPA picking up straggling eSF pros).


Seriously?


I don't know what to call the situation where losers bully around the neighborhood when the real gang leaders aren't around.

Go back to the terrible BW forums and stay there. We don't need your pathetic sense of superiority here.

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Heouf
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands787 Posts
April 10 2013 14:21 GMT
#1332
KeSPA to strong for these guys.
Gokba Alhakel
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
April 10 2013 14:24 GMT
#1333
KESPA. fuck yea

In all seriousness, I'm really surprised curious didn't make it through.
jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
April 10 2013 14:27 GMT
#1334
I would put sOs as the #1 protoss right now. He's certainly been the most consistent.
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
April 10 2013 14:27 GMT
#1335
On April 10 2013 23:19 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 23:13 sinigang wrote:
On April 10 2013 23:10 Ryncol wrote:
On April 10 2013 23:08 sinigang wrote:
On April 10 2013 22:56 slowbacontron wrote:
I saw plenty of esf fans in the previews for this group who claimed that Curious and MKP were easily going to win, probably because they hadn't paid any attention to the Kespa scene. But yes, it's the Kespa fans who come crowing over every frikkin' victory these days because Kespa is the cool thing to support, the "new" kids on the block (maybe an opportunity for the old fans to flaunt their superiority).


I think a major reason this is happening is because KeSPA fans felt disrespected back in 2010 when new fans who only followed SC2 and eSF players started proclaiming new gods and heroes of StarCraft (which were mere B-teamers and punching bags in BW by the way). KeSPA fans couldn't stand that these players were freeloading in SC2 while their heroes were stuck playing BW and had to go through a long and tough transition period. Now that that's over and KeSPA is here to stay for good, the old school fans are seeking a sense of vindication. This will last until tournaments are dominantly represented by KeSPA (which includes KeSPA picking up straggling eSF pros).


Seriously?


I don't know what to call the situation where losers bully around the neighborhood when the real gang leaders aren't around.

Go back to the terrible BW forums and stay there. We don't need your pathetic sense of superiority here.


Seems pretty clear he's not the only one with a sense of superiority around here, my friend.
BW forever || Thall
T.O.P
Profile Joined December 2012
469 Posts
April 10 2013 14:28 GMT
#1336
kespa too good!
I'm not the real T.O.P just a fan!
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
April 10 2013 14:31 GMT
#1337
Whenever Kespa players win thread turns to shit...
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 10 2013 14:32 GMT
#1338
why do people care about kespa or esf. it doesnt fucking matter
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Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
April 10 2013 14:42 GMT
#1339
On April 10 2013 23:27 jellyjello wrote:
I would put sOs as the #1 protoss right now. He's certainly been the most consistent.


Him or Rain, they're both godly.

Ro8 Flash, Innovation, PartinG, sOs, RorO, Rain, Life and and Fantasy? I'd watch it.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
April 10 2013 14:46 GMT
#1340
Anyone claiming Kespa >>> eSF after today needs to shut the hell up . The play of the whole group overall was pretty weak even sOs that pretty much dominated the group did not look that solid. If someone puts him at #1 Prtoss after this than thats just sad.
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