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Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
March 19 2013 23:52 GMT
#101
On March 18 2013 22:09 bittman wrote:
Guys.

Am I being too eager if I hope to see sC play?

Just a touch eager perhaps...

Probably be the usual Tear-Gumiho-Leenock-Lucky combo.

This might actually happen... An account called "김승철" (Kim Seung Chul [sC's name]) is GM on the Korean ladder... currently #176 http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/ladder/grandmaster/heart-of-the-swarm
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
March 19 2013 23:54 GMT
#102
gumiho with medivac boost is about the scariest thing i've heard of
get rich or die mining
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
March 20 2013 00:28 GMT
#103
On March 20 2013 07:59 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 07:46 Cel.erity wrote:
On March 20 2013 07:40 Zealously wrote:
On March 20 2013 07:36 Cel.erity wrote:
A little surprised by the overwhelming results of the poll.

-FXO won the last two GSTLs.
-It's a Bo7, which favors FXO immensely.
-IM is starting a relatively unknown player.
-IM has a history of resting its best players.
-IM players have not looked very good in HotS, and FXO players have shown more adaptability in the past.

We'll see, but I think it's pretty close, and the edge goes to FXO. Their reliance on Lucky and Leenock might be their doom if they haven't adapted to HotS yet though.


LG-IM dominated IEM and grabbed all top 4 spots over players like violet. If anything, they are huge favorites here.


I disagree, it was a zero hour tournament against mostly foreigners, and they played the game as if it were WoL. MVP and Seed showed no signs of adaptation between IEM and MLG. It's very unclear whether they understand HotS at all.

No doubt they are good players, but we haven't seen anything interesting from them yet.

Edit: I'll admit that I forgot MC will be playing for them this season, though. That definitely makes their lineup a lot stronger.


of all teams to call weak in HotS you pick the one who won the gstl pre season convincingly and dominated a tournament, yes it was a weaker lineup than MLG but they still beat violet, parting, dream, golden and mc. this is just laughable.

plus the fact that they in fact have MC on the team, too, and he has some very useful builds for GSTL style matches.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 20 2013 01:06 GMT
#104
SC makes his triumphant return and allkills with 4 proxy reaper builds in a row.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
March 20 2013 01:32 GMT
#105
This should be a fun match.

Gogo LG-IM!
Addicted2Dreaming
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada116 Posts
March 20 2013 01:49 GMT
#106
Looking at the polls, all I have to say is: when will people learn to stop doubting FXO? Seriously...the blind LG-IM fanboyism is grossly abound.
favs = leenock, gumiho, sC, life, sniper, jjakji, mvp, tear, innovation, polt, mc, dream
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 20 2013 02:06 GMT
#107
gumiho isn't actually doing all that well on ladder, 55% ish or so compared to a lot of 60+%

but he's always impressed more in broadcast games :o
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 20 2013 02:24 GMT
#108
On March 20 2013 09:28 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 07:59 Dodgin wrote:
On March 20 2013 07:46 Cel.erity wrote:
On March 20 2013 07:40 Zealously wrote:
On March 20 2013 07:36 Cel.erity wrote:
A little surprised by the overwhelming results of the poll.

-FXO won the last two GSTLs.
-It's a Bo7, which favors FXO immensely.
-IM is starting a relatively unknown player.
-IM has a history of resting its best players.
-IM players have not looked very good in HotS, and FXO players have shown more adaptability in the past.

We'll see, but I think it's pretty close, and the edge goes to FXO. Their reliance on Lucky and Leenock might be their doom if they haven't adapted to HotS yet though.


LG-IM dominated IEM and grabbed all top 4 spots over players like violet. If anything, they are huge favorites here.


I disagree, it was a zero hour tournament against mostly foreigners, and they played the game as if it were WoL. MVP and Seed showed no signs of adaptation between IEM and MLG. It's very unclear whether they understand HotS at all.

No doubt they are good players, but we haven't seen anything interesting from them yet.

Edit: I'll admit that I forgot MC will be playing for them this season, though. That definitely makes their lineup a lot stronger.


of all teams to call weak in HotS you pick the one who won the gstl pre season convincingly and dominated a tournament, yes it was a weaker lineup than MLG but they still beat violet, parting, dream, golden and mc. this is just laughable.

plus the fact that they in fact have MC on the team, too, and he has some very useful builds for GSTL style matches.


Ruin and Ragnarok also looked ridiculously good in HotS in preseason, too. So Ruin being 'unknown' only to people who didn't watch pre-season.
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Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
March 20 2013 02:43 GMT
#109
On March 20 2013 10:49 Addicted2Dreaming wrote:
Looking at the polls, all I have to say is: when will people learn to stop doubting FXO? Seriously...the blind LG-IM fanboyism is grossly abound.

LG-IEM definitely doesn't help either :/
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 03:04:23
March 20 2013 03:03 GMT
#110
On March 20 2013 11:43 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 10:49 Addicted2Dreaming wrote:
Looking at the polls, all I have to say is: when will people learn to stop doubting FXO? Seriously...the blind LG-IM fanboyism is grossly abound.

LG-IEM definitely doesn't help either :/


Nor that FXO went out 2nd round in the pre-season to Azubu, whom IM beat to win the entire thing :p
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Addicted2Dreaming
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada116 Posts
March 20 2013 03:09 GMT
#111
On March 20 2013 12:03 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 11:43 Seeker wrote:
On March 20 2013 10:49 Addicted2Dreaming wrote:
Looking at the polls, all I have to say is: when will people learn to stop doubting FXO? Seriously...the blind LG-IM fanboyism is grossly abound.

LG-IEM definitely doesn't help either :/


Nor that FXO went out 2nd round in the pre-season to Azubu, whom IM beat to win the entire thing :p


True say, but I guarantee the polls would still look approximately the same even if FXO had won the pre-season.
favs = leenock, gumiho, sC, life, sniper, jjakji, mvp, tear, innovation, polt, mc, dream
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
March 20 2013 03:16 GMT
#112
damn you daylight savings time
byah!
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
March 20 2013 03:20 GMT
#113
I don't think betting on either team would be a bad decision if you were putting money down. I think it's less "Blind Fanboyism" and more "well shit, it's a coinflip, I'm going to go with LGIM because they have like 75% of the GSL championships on the team" or "Well hey, it's pretty close, I'm going to go with my favorite team because they can certainly win!"

Nobody's underestimating FXO, and I think if there was a poll for map score you'd probably see a high number of final match predictions.

But yeah, IM's going to win it, I foresee Yoda getting 2, and think they'll send out at least one lower level player second before bringing out the big guns if necessary. (Honestly I'd love for a Losira reverse all-kill, but to claim it will happen would definitely be blind fanboyism :p )
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 20 2013 03:40 GMT
#114
I don't know if FXO can win without their ace, Grubby. :p
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 20 2013 03:54 GMT
#115
Fantasy GSTL is up http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403685
Addicted2Dreaming
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada116 Posts
March 20 2013 04:26 GMT
#116
On March 20 2013 12:20 Noobity wrote:
I don't think betting on either team would be a bad decision if you were putting money down. I think it's less "Blind Fanboyism" and more "well shit, it's a coinflip, I'm going to go with LGIM because they have like 75% of the GSL championships on the team" or "Well hey, it's pretty close, I'm going to go with my favorite team because they can certainly win!"

Nobody's underestimating FXO, and I think if there was a poll for map score you'd probably see a high number of final match predictions.

But yeah, IM's going to win it, I foresee Yoda getting 2, and think they'll send out at least one lower level player second before bringing out the big guns if necessary. (Honestly I'd love for a Losira reverse all-kill, but to claim it will happen would definitely be blind fanboyism :p )


I dunno, I just personally find the seemingly boundless LG-IM partiality on this site to be nauseating, it's like an irreversible bandwagon effect or something.
favs = leenock, gumiho, sC, life, sniper, jjakji, mvp, tear, innovation, polt, mc, dream
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
March 20 2013 08:22 GMT
#117
gogo fxo fighting!
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
March 20 2013 08:28 GMT
#118
Let's see an all-kill from Leenock, captain of my new FPL team, and we'll be off to a great start.

Slightly scared for FXO vs IM, but they usually pull through in the end.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 20 2013 11:21 GMT
#119
gogo join our Team LR :D

http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/gstl/Groups.php?r=2
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Mariosatr
Profile Joined September 2012
294 Posts
March 20 2013 11:45 GMT
#120
FXO hwaiting! You can do this!
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