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YMCApylons
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Taiwan359 Posts
March 09 2013 15:05 GMT
#1681
Glad that WoL ends with a KeSPA champion. Even better if he's Samsung KHAN.
You must construct additional pylons.
MorowZ
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada56 Posts
March 09 2013 15:06 GMT
#1682
On March 09 2013 23:40 shockaslim wrote:
Fun Fact: July was the ONLY Brood War champion to even make it to the finals of any GSL. No Brood War champions won.


Fun fact: most of the recent (and presently relevant) BW champions have been playing sc2 full-time for little over half a year
SamsungStar
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States912 Posts
March 09 2013 15:14 GMT
#1683
Samsung takes another gold. Of the KHAN, by the KHAN, for the KHAN...
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
March 09 2013 15:31 GMT
#1684
It seems fitting that the last Wings champion is a KeSPA player.
Administrator
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
March 09 2013 15:36 GMT
#1685
On March 10 2013 00:06 Tarzul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 23:40 shockaslim wrote:
Fun Fact: July was the ONLY Brood War champion to even make it to the finals of any GSL. No Brood War champions won.


Fun fact: most of the recent (and presently relevant) BW champions have been playing sc2 full-time for little over half a year

Well if Intrigue is to be believed, top 16 GSL should be all Kespa stars
Capulet
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada686 Posts
March 09 2013 16:07 GMT
#1686
Ahh I missed the games.

I think this win is quite symbolic. The elephant kicked down the door as WoL comes to an end, and a new chapter in HotS begins.
"I'm just killing the spiders to save the butterflies... Wanting to save both is a contradiction. What would you rather do? Keep deliberating? The butterfly will be eaten in the meantime."
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
March 09 2013 16:08 GMT
#1687
This once's for WeMadeFOX ;_;
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SamsungStar
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States912 Posts
March 09 2013 16:15 GMT
#1688
On March 10 2013 01:07 Capulet wrote:
Ahh I missed the games.

I think this win is quite symbolic. The elephant kicked down the door as WoL comes to an end, and a new chapter in HotS begins.


In HotS, elephant going to take a big steaming dookie right in the middle of the bear den.
Prince_Stranger
Profile Joined November 2010
Kazakhstan762 Posts
March 09 2013 16:22 GMT
#1689
Wow. Nice.
Last Champion of OSL (bw) from Samsung Khan.
Now Last Champion of GSL (wol) from Samsung Khan again.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4838 Posts
March 09 2013 16:28 GMT
#1690
On March 10 2013 01:07 Capulet wrote:
Ahh I missed the games.

I think this win is quite symbolic. The elephant kicked down the door as WoL comes to an end, and a new chapter in HotS begins.

The WoL OSL already kicked in that door, but it's nice to finally have a GSL winner who didn't quit BW early.
My strategy is to fork people.
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
March 09 2013 16:37 GMT
#1691
Awesome, RorO! I went to bed when he was up 2-0 and I felt like I would wake up to find out he had choked it away. I was pleasantly surprised.
BW forever || Thall
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 09 2013 16:38 GMT
#1692
Khan takes the last BW OSL, and Khan takes the last WoL GSL
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
March 09 2013 16:44 GMT
#1693
Symbol NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO at least it wasn't a 4-0, now all the Kespa elitists will be talking shit forever. We will never live this down. lmao.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
March 09 2013 16:44 GMT
#1694
I hate this elephant argument so much. Looking at champions like Life, Jjakjji, Leenock (his mlg wins were not a fluke) they're all crazy young. Who's to say Life wouldn't have been the next Flash had he not been like 12 or 13 when sc2 came out?

The elephant situation is less black and white and more shades of grey. You will absolutely not have Kespa players winning every GSL in the coming years. There might be a higher percentage of them winning than ESF players, but there will never be complete and total domination unless Kespa simply recruits more young players.

With HotS, but moreso LotV (assuming the game makes it there as a flagship esport, and I don't personally doubt it will) you're going to see that the real Elephant is the 15-18 year old kids that get into the game professionally. That, I assure you, will be what makes more of a difference than what organization their team is part of. This may be where Kespa has the upper hand where they (at least used to?) require that pros go through testing tournaments to even be licensed, so they already have an option to fall back on to pinpoint the greatest young players. Teams like IM have a lot of funding, and I wonder where they stand compared to Kespa teams, and what kind of salaries (if any) they can offer young players to entice them to join.

Ugh, so offtopic. I'm sorry about that. I didn't get a chance to see the finals, and despite being a zerg player I'm not super interested, but it sounds like the ceremonies that took place after the win were really meaningful and awesome, so I look forward to those. Congrats to Roro, who I don't think ever got the recognition he deserved before this, and hope that will change Symbol will undoubtedly remain an important figure in hots. The guy's great, and I think Azubu will be doing great things for the sc2 scene in the future, so he'll certainly benefit
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
nextstep
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada705 Posts
March 09 2013 16:47 GMT
#1695
congrats Roro!!
go KHAN! TBLS <3
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
March 09 2013 16:52 GMT
#1696
Oh hey, my original prediction came true.
Grats, RorO!
On March 09 2013 07:50 Hier wrote:
Anyway, this is what's going to happen at the GSL finals, figuratively:

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"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 09 2013 16:53 GMT
#1697
Hmm, so now Symbol's finished 2nd place in 4 premier tournaments now? (Iron Squid against MMA, MLG Spring Arena against Violet, Homestory Cup against Snute, GSL against Roro)

Looks like a new Kong has come.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
March 09 2013 16:59 GMT
#1698
--- Nuked ---
1Dhalism
Profile Joined June 2012
862 Posts
March 09 2013 17:12 GMT
#1699
On March 10 2013 01:44 Noobity wrote:
I hate this elephant argument so much. Looking at champions like Life, Jjakjji, Leenock (his mlg wins were not a fluke) they're all crazy young. Who's to say Life wouldn't have been the next Flash had he not been like 12 or 13 when sc2 came out?

The elephant situation is less black and white and more shades of grey. You will absolutely not have Kespa players winning every GSL in the coming years. There might be a higher percentage of them winning than ESF players, but there will never be complete and total domination unless Kespa simply recruits more young players.

With HotS, but moreso LotV (assuming the game makes it there as a flagship esport, and I don't personally doubt it will) you're going to see that the real Elephant is the 15-18 year old kids that get into the game professionally. That, I assure you, will be what makes more of a difference than what organization their team is part of. This may be where Kespa has the upper hand where they (at least used to?) require that pros go through testing tournaments to even be licensed, so they already have an option to fall back on to pinpoint the greatest young players. Teams like IM have a lot of funding, and I wonder where they stand compared to Kespa teams, and what kind of salaries (if any) they can offer young players to entice them to join.

Ugh, so offtopic. I'm sorry about that. I didn't get a chance to see the finals, and despite being a zerg player I'm not super interested, but it sounds like the ceremonies that took place after the win were really meaningful and awesome, so I look forward to those. Congrats to Roro, who I don't think ever got the recognition he deserved before this, and hope that will change Symbol will undoubtedly remain an important figure in hots. The guy's great, and I think Azubu will be doing great things for the sc2 scene in the future, so he'll certainly benefit

most people don't seem to understand what was wrong with the elephant article. It was complete dismissal of the then current SC2 scene.
That's why i am puzzled when people today claim any Kespa wins as victories for "Elephants" I'm sorry, but the elephants are gone. It's all SC2 players. Kespa vs ESF rivalry, sure. But that kind of total and absolute dismissal of SC2 players' achievements that intrigue has displayed simply does not allow for a year of practice.
In fact, intrigue paints himself into a corner even further by actually confirming that.

I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch.


What's happening now is expected by everyone in SC2 community. It's a given, the default setting.
Broodwar progamers are talented individuals and will be winning GSL eventually? Well, duh.
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
March 09 2013 17:18 GMT
#1700
Next final will be Fantasy vs Flash if they dont nerf Terran You can bet on it.
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
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