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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
February 18 2013 10:28 GMT
#101
On February 18 2013 19:25 grapedog wrote:
It's EG-TL's first time in proleague right?

Are we expecting the new kids on the block to come in and wreck all the experienced teams? I figured it would take a season or two to get into the groove.

Maybe I just don't have ridiculously idiotic standards though...

EG-TL's the most experienced team when it comes to what actually matters, playing SC2. If anything the Kespa teams are just going to dominate harder as they catch up in HotS.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24583 Posts
February 18 2013 10:28 GMT
#102
On February 18 2013 19:25 grapedog wrote:
It's EG-TL's first time in proleague right?

Are we expecting the new kids on the block to come in and wreck all the experienced teams? I figured it would take a season or two to get into the groove.

Maybe I just don't have ridiculously idiotic standards though...


I think it's just that they've got a lot more experience with Sc2 than the Kespa teams and have a lineup of multiple champions.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 10:50:45
February 18 2013 10:31 GMT
#103
On February 18 2013 19:20 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 19:19 ROOTT1 wrote:
holy shit TERRIBLE decision making from flash, wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff


Considering his situation he made the best he could. Half of his army was already at opponents natural when toss moved up. He tried to get bunkers in main but they got killed. Don't really know what he could have done better in that situation.

Well other then letting his orbitals die of course which is obviously huge


that contain and pylon block rly set bong behind. flash got his exp up faster and confirmed bong's expo with his marine, all he needed to do was play defencive and he would have gone into the middgame with a pretty significant econ lead(bong wasnt chronoing probes aswell). and playing defencive from that spot is very easy, u just sit in the middle and then back off + add bunks once u see protoss moving out
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
February 18 2013 10:34 GMT
#104
After today's results, Flash is now ranked #3 (previously #1) in terms of Overall win-loss for SPL 2012-2013.
1st. sOs 17-8
2nd. Hydra 17-10
3rd. Flash 17-11
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Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
February 18 2013 10:37 GMT
#105
Scoring:

CJ +6
KT -3

SongDuri +4
Hydra +4
EffOrt +4
BonG +4
herO[jOin] +2
Wooki +1
sKyHigh +2
Crazy-Hydra +1

all other CJ players +1
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
February 18 2013 10:41 GMT
#106
Really wish that Flash would just scan and play a standard game more. :-/ He really shouldn't be losing to these players.
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 10:53:36
February 18 2013 10:46 GMT
#107
i dont even understand what prompted him to move his units out like that. he certainly didnt want to base trade because thats completely retarded in that situation. his indecision made that evident, once he saw bong's army moving out he moved his units back towards his base for a sec but then decided to attack.. the only thing i can think of is that he wanted to hit a big 2-4 medi timing due to the lack of econ bong had, i think he just wanted to hide a part of his army so that bong would underestimate his push, maybe make less sentrys or chrono more probes etc etc. seems like a pretty dumb thing to do once u see ur opponent opening with an immo exp build cuz they just end up pushing the majority of the time, dunno tbh
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18457 Posts
February 18 2013 10:48 GMT
#108
Cj are coming back Yay!
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
February 18 2013 11:11 GMT
#109
fuuck yeah cj all kill baby
Mmm, what to watch.
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
February 18 2013 11:21 GMT
#110
Where is the guy who said "you can never go wrong with Flash (and KT) in your FPL main team" ?

letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
February 18 2013 11:46 GMT
#111
jesus, let the randomness reign and flourish
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
February 18 2013 11:52 GMT
#112
KT and SKT really having trouble this season.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
February 18 2013 11:53 GMT
#113
On February 18 2013 20:46 letian wrote:
jesus, let the randomness reign and flourish

This isn't random. This is actually the most reasonable result.

SonGDuRi > Barracks - This one was up to grab as nobody know how both of they would do. The CJ player was the more experienced one.
Hydra > Carno - Stats has trouble with PvZ while Hydra has the best vP game with a 10-2 (9-2 before the game) record.
EffOrt > Action - Action is actually (more precisely was in R1) a zerg sniper. And while EffOrt hasn't the best record in this category, Action is riding a 5 games (4 before the game) losing streak.
Bong > Flash - Bong made a big splash last round but failed to continue in this one up until now. Though Flash was the favorite, Bong isn't bad either.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 12:10:58
February 18 2013 12:03 GMT
#114
On February 18 2013 19:28 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 19:25 grapedog wrote:
It's EG-TL's first time in proleague right?

Are we expecting the new kids on the block to come in and wreck all the experienced teams? I figured it would take a season or two to get into the groove.

Maybe I just don't have ridiculously idiotic standards though...

EG-TL's the most experienced team when it comes to what actually matters, playing SC2. If anything the Kespa teams are just going to dominate harder as they catch up in HotS.


Those Kespa guys must be expected to be really slow learners when after 1year of official training and another 1 year of very accurate rumours and signs (new Kespa computers, barcode ladder invasion, Nestea tutoring Kespa players in SC2 etc etc) people still need to make excuses for any bad showing.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
February 18 2013 12:18 GMT
#115
Well, KT is even worse than EGTL in round 3. Quite hard to believe
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Nukid
Profile Joined April 2010
United States240 Posts
February 18 2013 13:28 GMT
#116
On February 18 2013 21:03 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 19:28 Scarecrow wrote:
On February 18 2013 19:25 grapedog wrote:
It's EG-TL's first time in proleague right?

Are we expecting the new kids on the block to come in and wreck all the experienced teams? I figured it would take a season or two to get into the groove.

Maybe I just don't have ridiculously idiotic standards though...

EG-TL's the most experienced team when it comes to what actually matters, playing SC2. If anything the Kespa teams are just going to dominate harder as they catch up in HotS.


Those Kespa guys must be expected to be really slow learners when after 1year of official training and another 1 year of very accurate rumours and signs (new Kespa computers, barcode ladder invasion, Nestea tutoring Kespa players in SC2 etc etc) people still need to make excuses for any bad showing.


Look like you completely misunderstood him. He's saying that Kespa already dominating in WOL, the game where most EG-TL players played for years compare to the new KESPA players. With HOTS coming, it's even playing field as it is new to everybody, KESPA might dominate even more.
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
February 18 2013 13:32 GMT
#117
On February 18 2013 19:41 GolemMadness wrote:
Really wish that Flash would just scan and play a standard game more. :-/ He really shouldn't be losing to these players.


You do realize that he is playing/preparing for GSL for a code S spot at the moment right? If any of you know him from BW, his PL performances tended to dip (just like mosts) when hes deep in an individual league.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
February 18 2013 13:38 GMT
#118
On February 18 2013 22:32 DyEnasTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 19:41 GolemMadness wrote:
Really wish that Flash would just scan and play a standard game more. :-/ He really shouldn't be losing to these players.


You do realize that he is playing/preparing for GSL for a code S spot at the moment right? If any of you know him from BW, his PL performances tended to dip (just like mosts) when hes deep in an individual league.


Really? I was under the impression that GSL didn't matter that much to KeSPA players and that they prioritize PL over anything else at the moment.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 18 2013 13:41 GMT
#119
On February 18 2013 22:38 Kommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 22:32 DyEnasTy wrote:
On February 18 2013 19:41 GolemMadness wrote:
Really wish that Flash would just scan and play a standard game more. :-/ He really shouldn't be losing to these players.


You do realize that he is playing/preparing for GSL for a code S spot at the moment right? If any of you know him from BW, his PL performances tended to dip (just like mosts) when hes deep in an individual league.


Really? I was under the impression that GSL didn't matter that much to KeSPA players and that they prioritize PL over anything else at the moment.


That's what the KeSPA fans tend to say, and it is also what many players say in interviews. I, from a strictly personal perspective, find it hard to believe. But who knows - it's not like the players could say "Yeah I care more about my individual league performances than I do about Proleague because fuck my team", right? So it's all just pretty much speculation or excuses.
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
February 18 2013 13:49 GMT
#120
On February 18 2013 21:03 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 19:28 Scarecrow wrote:
On February 18 2013 19:25 grapedog wrote:
It's EG-TL's first time in proleague right?

Are we expecting the new kids on the block to come in and wreck all the experienced teams? I figured it would take a season or two to get into the groove.

Maybe I just don't have ridiculously idiotic standards though...

EG-TL's the most experienced team when it comes to what actually matters, playing SC2. If anything the Kespa teams are just going to dominate harder as they catch up in HotS.


Those Kespa guys must be expected to be really slow learners when after 1year of official training and another 1 year of very accurate rumours and signs (new Kespa computers, barcode ladder invasion, Nestea tutoring Kespa players in SC2 etc etc) people still need to make excuses for any bad showing.

You must be high if you think Kespa's been training for 2 years. They only started playing hybrid proleague about 9 months ago and looked very new to the game at the time.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
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