On February 18 2013 17:45 Kommatiazo wrote: I haven't been able to catch any broadcasts for a week. What's up with Wooki? Did he ditch P7GAB cause it was confusing or what?
Actually what they do is that they put random english words and letters into a lottery box and randomise it every week for every proleague players, so it's probably just that he got his old name back.
Went to liquipedia to check BarrackS -> found quote from Violet about him being fast enough to build units from 10 rax in less than 1 second -> shed a manly tear. T_T Violet
On February 18 2013 17:57 Heartland wrote: Imagine if Flash/Bisu/etc would change names.
Boxer once tried to change his username to [Orion]JungTerran, but made the announcement before registering the name on Battle.Net. The account and similar variations were promptly swept up by Korean netizens
On February 18 2013 17:57 Heartland wrote: Imagine if Flash/Bisu/etc would change names.
Boxer once tried to change his username to [Orion]JungTerran, but made the announcement before registering the name on Battle.Net. The account and similar variations were promptly swept up by Korean netizens
Clans are independent of pro teams. It's their roots, hence they're sporting the tag in their name, also to avoid confusion when the same ID is picked more than once (e.g. HerO, herO, hero). Players usually also stay with their clans despite what pro teams they get on.
I can not stand these casters. ANNNDDDDD....ANNNNDDDDD...However However However...BUUUTTT...ANNNNNDDDDD I never complain about casters, but I have literally had nightmares due to this "ANNNNDDDDD" guy. I pretty much watch it muted nowadays.
On February 18 2013 18:32 Devolved wrote: I can not stand these casters. ANNNDDDDD....ANNNNDDDDD...However However However...BUUUTTT...ANNNNNDDDDD I never complain about casters, but I have literally had nightmares due to this "ANNNNDDDDD" guy. I pretty much watch it muted nowadays.
He's getting into a trouble with these colossus and I'm not sure what he's thinking right now.
On February 18 2013 19:19 ROOTT1 wrote: holy shit TERRIBLE decision making from flash, wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
Considering his situation he made the best he could. Half of his army was already at opponents natural when toss moved up. He tried to get bunkers in main but they got killed. Don't really know what he could have done better in that situation.
Well other then letting his orbitals die of course which is obviously huge
On February 18 2013 19:19 warmus wrote: well i feel that this game was as unlucky for flash as it was physically possible. Just everything lined up perfect for Bong
Flash decided to go for the base trade himself tho, look at his army positioning when Bong pushed.
THIS is KT's usual round 1 performance. Seeing that they went 6-1 in Round 1 this season, everything's still cool. They should back on the later rounds and secure a PO spot.
Are we expecting the new kids on the block to come in and wreck all the experienced teams? I figured it would take a season or two to get into the groove.
Maybe I just don't have ridiculously idiotic standards though...
On February 18 2013 19:19 ROOTT1 wrote: holy shit TERRIBLE decision making from flash, wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
Considering his situation he made the best he could. Half of his army was already at opponents natural when toss moved up. He tried to get bunkers in main but they got killed. Don't really know what he could have done better in that situation.
Well other then letting his orbitals die of course which is obviously huge
no. he got forcefielded so bad although he had the watchtower. he did not save his orbitals in time. he positioned his units for a basetrade but had no bunkers ready...
What I dont get was why he had donation units streaming through the middle of the map just before the trade happened. If he'd kept them at the top of his ramp, whilst making sure his starport (did he finish one?) and an orbital got out alive he had this game.
On February 18 2013 19:25 grapedog wrote: It's EG-TL's first time in proleague right?
Are we expecting the new kids on the block to come in and wreck all the experienced teams? I figured it would take a season or two to get into the groove.
Maybe I just don't have ridiculously idiotic standards though...
EG-TL's the most experienced team when it comes to what actually matters, playing SC2. If anything the Kespa teams are just going to dominate harder as they catch up in HotS.
On February 18 2013 19:25 grapedog wrote: It's EG-TL's first time in proleague right?
Are we expecting the new kids on the block to come in and wreck all the experienced teams? I figured it would take a season or two to get into the groove.
Maybe I just don't have ridiculously idiotic standards though...
I think it's just that they've got a lot more experience with Sc2 than the Kespa teams and have a lineup of multiple champions.
On February 18 2013 19:19 ROOTT1 wrote: holy shit TERRIBLE decision making from flash, wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
Considering his situation he made the best he could. Half of his army was already at opponents natural when toss moved up. He tried to get bunkers in main but they got killed. Don't really know what he could have done better in that situation.
Well other then letting his orbitals die of course which is obviously huge
that contain and pylon block rly set bong behind. flash got his exp up faster and confirmed bong's expo with his marine, all he needed to do was play defencive and he would have gone into the middgame with a pretty significant econ lead(bong wasnt chronoing probes aswell). and playing defencive from that spot is very easy, u just sit in the middle and then back off + add bunks once u see protoss moving out
After today's results, Flash is now ranked #3 (previously #1) in terms of Overall win-loss for SPL 2012-2013. 1st. sOs 17-8 2nd. Hydra 17-10 3rd. Flash 17-11
i dont even understand what prompted him to move his units out like that. he certainly didnt want to base trade because thats completely retarded in that situation. his indecision made that evident, once he saw bong's army moving out he moved his units back towards his base for a sec but then decided to attack.. the only thing i can think of is that he wanted to hit a big 2-4 medi timing due to the lack of econ bong had, i think he just wanted to hide a part of his army so that bong would underestimate his push, maybe make less sentrys or chrono more probes etc etc. seems like a pretty dumb thing to do once u see ur opponent opening with an immo exp build cuz they just end up pushing the majority of the time, dunno tbh
On February 18 2013 20:46 letian wrote: jesus, let the randomness reign and flourish
This isn't random. This is actually the most reasonable result.
SonGDuRi > Barracks - This one was up to grab as nobody know how both of they would do. The CJ player was the more experienced one. Hydra > Carno - Stats has trouble with PvZ while Hydra has the best vP game with a 10-2 (9-2 before the game) record. EffOrt > Action - Action is actually (more precisely was in R1) a zerg sniper. And while EffOrt hasn't the best record in this category, Action is riding a 5 games (4 before the game) losing streak. Bong > Flash - Bong made a big splash last round but failed to continue in this one up until now. Though Flash was the favorite, Bong isn't bad either.
On February 18 2013 19:25 grapedog wrote: It's EG-TL's first time in proleague right?
Are we expecting the new kids on the block to come in and wreck all the experienced teams? I figured it would take a season or two to get into the groove.
Maybe I just don't have ridiculously idiotic standards though...
EG-TL's the most experienced team when it comes to what actually matters, playing SC2. If anything the Kespa teams are just going to dominate harder as they catch up in HotS.
Those Kespa guys must be expected to be really slow learners when after 1year of official training and another 1 year of very accurate rumours and signs (new Kespa computers, barcode ladder invasion, Nestea tutoring Kespa players in SC2 etc etc) people still need to make excuses for any bad showing.
On February 18 2013 19:25 grapedog wrote: It's EG-TL's first time in proleague right?
Are we expecting the new kids on the block to come in and wreck all the experienced teams? I figured it would take a season or two to get into the groove.
Maybe I just don't have ridiculously idiotic standards though...
EG-TL's the most experienced team when it comes to what actually matters, playing SC2. If anything the Kespa teams are just going to dominate harder as they catch up in HotS.
Those Kespa guys must be expected to be really slow learners when after 1year of official training and another 1 year of very accurate rumours and signs (new Kespa computers, barcode ladder invasion, Nestea tutoring Kespa players in SC2 etc etc) people still need to make excuses for any bad showing.
Look like you completely misunderstood him. He's saying that Kespa already dominating in WOL, the game where most EG-TL players played for years compare to the new KESPA players. With HOTS coming, it's even playing field as it is new to everybody, KESPA might dominate even more.
On February 18 2013 19:41 GolemMadness wrote: Really wish that Flash would just scan and play a standard game more. :-/ He really shouldn't be losing to these players.
You do realize that he is playing/preparing for GSL for a code S spot at the moment right? If any of you know him from BW, his PL performances tended to dip (just like mosts) when hes deep in an individual league.
On February 18 2013 19:41 GolemMadness wrote: Really wish that Flash would just scan and play a standard game more. :-/ He really shouldn't be losing to these players.
You do realize that he is playing/preparing for GSL for a code S spot at the moment right? If any of you know him from BW, his PL performances tended to dip (just like mosts) when hes deep in an individual league.
Really? I was under the impression that GSL didn't matter that much to KeSPA players and that they prioritize PL over anything else at the moment.
On February 18 2013 19:41 GolemMadness wrote: Really wish that Flash would just scan and play a standard game more. :-/ He really shouldn't be losing to these players.
You do realize that he is playing/preparing for GSL for a code S spot at the moment right? If any of you know him from BW, his PL performances tended to dip (just like mosts) when hes deep in an individual league.
Really? I was under the impression that GSL didn't matter that much to KeSPA players and that they prioritize PL over anything else at the moment.
That's what the KeSPA fans tend to say, and it is also what many players say in interviews. I, from a strictly personal perspective, find it hard to believe. But who knows - it's not like the players could say "Yeah I care more about my individual league performances than I do about Proleague because fuck my team", right? So it's all just pretty much speculation or excuses.
On February 18 2013 19:25 grapedog wrote: It's EG-TL's first time in proleague right?
Are we expecting the new kids on the block to come in and wreck all the experienced teams? I figured it would take a season or two to get into the groove.
Maybe I just don't have ridiculously idiotic standards though...
EG-TL's the most experienced team when it comes to what actually matters, playing SC2. If anything the Kespa teams are just going to dominate harder as they catch up in HotS.
Those Kespa guys must be expected to be really slow learners when after 1year of official training and another 1 year of very accurate rumours and signs (new Kespa computers, barcode ladder invasion, Nestea tutoring Kespa players in SC2 etc etc) people still need to make excuses for any bad showing.
You must be high if you think Kespa's been training for 2 years. They only started playing hybrid proleague about 9 months ago and looked very new to the game at the time.
On February 18 2013 20:46 letian wrote: jesus, let the randomness reign and flourish
This isn't random. This is actually the most reasonable result.
SonGDuRi > Barracks - This one was up to grab as nobody know how both of they would do. The CJ player was the more experienced one. Hydra > Carno - Stats has trouble with PvZ while Hydra has the best vP game with a 10-2 (9-2 before the game) record. EffOrt > Action - Action is actually (more precisely was in R1) a zerg sniper. And while EffOrt hasn't the best record in this category, Action is riding a 5 games (4 before the game) losing streak. Bong > Flash - Bong made a big splash last round but failed to continue in this one up until now. Though Flash was the favorite, Bong isn't bad either.
so you say 3 random results out of 4 games are reasonable ?:D
On February 18 2013 20:46 letian wrote: jesus, let the randomness reign and flourish
This isn't random. This is actually the most reasonable result.
SonGDuRi > Barracks - This one was up to grab as nobody know how both of they would do. The CJ player was the more experienced one. Hydra > Carno - Stats has trouble with PvZ while Hydra has the best vP game with a 10-2 (9-2 before the game) record. EffOrt > Action - Action is actually (more precisely was in R1) a zerg sniper. And while EffOrt hasn't the best record in this category, Action is riding a 5 games (4 before the game) losing streak. Bong > Flash - Bong made a big splash last round but failed to continue in this one up until now. Though Flash was the favorite, Bong isn't bad either.
so you say 3 random results out of 4 games are reasonable ?:D
I'm saying that all these results aren't random. I would have picked the same aside from the Flash / Bong but Flash lost to a Protoss recently which certainly revealed some flaws in his play that neither you nor me can identify.
On February 18 2013 19:41 GolemMadness wrote: Really wish that Flash would just scan and play a standard game more. :-/ He really shouldn't be losing to these players.
You do realize that he is playing/preparing for GSL for a code S spot at the moment right? If any of you know him from BW, his PL performances tended to dip (just like mosts) when hes deep in an individual league.
pretty sure PL is more important to Flash than GSL lol
On February 18 2013 19:41 GolemMadness wrote: Really wish that Flash would just scan and play a standard game more. :-/ He really shouldn't be losing to these players.
You do realize that he is playing/preparing for GSL for a code S spot at the moment right? If any of you know him from BW, his PL performances tended to dip (just like mosts) when hes deep in an individual league.
pretty sure PL is more important to Flash than GSL lol
Hard to know since he is doing relatively bad in both at the moment lol.
On February 18 2013 19:41 GolemMadness wrote: Really wish that Flash would just scan and play a standard game more. :-/ He really shouldn't be losing to these players.
You do realize that he is playing/preparing for GSL for a code S spot at the moment right? If any of you know him from BW, his PL performances tended to dip (just like mosts) when hes deep in an individual league.
pretty sure PL is more important to Flash than GSL lol
It's not like it takes much time to prepare for one bo1 in pro league. It takes like 2 days max probably. Anything more is just korean training myths or inefficient practice.
On February 18 2013 19:41 GolemMadness wrote: Really wish that Flash would just scan and play a standard game more. :-/ He really shouldn't be losing to these players.
You do realize that he is playing/preparing for GSL for a code S spot at the moment right? If any of you know him from BW, his PL performances tended to dip (just like mosts) when hes deep in an individual league.
any of you guys know why the flash games dont have any english vods up on their twitch channel? the last game of flash against Flying and also this time his game against Bong are not not online... and also on liquipedia all the vods are linked except for the ones of Flash... I know that the games are up on youtube, but well i subscribed for the english cast and higher quality
On February 19 2013 06:30 MuKK wrote: any of you guys know why the flash games dont have any english vods up on their twitch channel? the last game of flash against Flying and also this time his game against Bong are not not online... and also on liquipedia all the vods are linked except for the ones of Flash... I know that the games are up on youtube, but well i subscribed for the english cast and higher quality
There have been problems with the English VOD page ever since the Flash vs Flying game. I can't go to the "more videos" page and the Flash vs Flying, Flash vs Bong, and HerO vs sOs VODs have not been uploaded yet over the last few days.
On February 19 2013 06:40 Supah wrote: Are the VODs working at all? I can't access anything, atm.
I can access the VODs that are linked in the OP. If you cant and you really want to see them and don't mind watching it in Korean, marcoso keeps the SC2 Small VOD thread updated with the English and Korean VODs here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=119948¤tpage=19#376 It has all the games from last night
On February 19 2013 06:30 MuKK wrote: any of you guys know why the flash games dont have any english vods up on their twitch channel? the last game of flash against Flying and also this time his game against Bong are not not online... and also on liquipedia all the vods are linked except for the ones of Flash... I know that the games are up on youtube, but well i subscribed for the english cast and higher quality
There have been problems with the English VOD page ever since the Flash vs Flying game. I can't go to the "more videos" page and the Flash vs Flying, Flash vs Bong, and HerO vs sOs VODs have not been uploaded yet over the last few days.
On February 19 2013 06:40 Supah wrote: Are the VODs working at all? I can't access anything, atm.
I can access the VODs that are linked in the OP. If you cant and you really want to see them and don't mind watching it in Korean, marcoso keeps the SC2 Small VOD thread updated with the English and Korean VODs here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=119948¤tpage=19#376 It has all the games from last night
On February 18 2013 19:41 GolemMadness wrote: Really wish that Flash would just scan and play a standard game more. :-/ He really shouldn't be losing to these players.
You do realize that he is playing/preparing for GSL for a code S spot at the moment right? If any of you know him from BW, his PL performances tended to dip (just like mosts) when hes deep in an individual league.
You realise that he already played his code A match and doesn't know who he's playing for his next one, right? Incidentally, what are you even talking about? He was almost always in two individual leagues in Brood War. The week KT won the 09-10 grand finals, he also played in the OSL, MSL and WCG Korea.
On February 18 2013 19:41 GolemMadness wrote: Really wish that Flash would just scan and play a standard game more. :-/ He really shouldn't be losing to these players.
You do realize that he is playing/preparing for GSL for a code S spot at the moment right? If any of you know him from BW, his PL performances tended to dip (just like mosts) when hes deep in an individual league.
pretty sure PL is more important to Flash than GSL lol
Hard to know since he is doing relatively bad in both at the moment lol.
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