EPT[Code S] RO16 Group D 2013 Season 1 - Page 94
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Taefox
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virpi
Germany3599 Posts
On February 15 2013 22:51 baubo wrote: I must say as a long time BW viewer, really weird to see RorO of all players beasting in SC2. He neither fits the mold of the BW Ace, like Soulkey, Jaedong, Flash, etc. Nor does he fit the mold of that young, upcoming player in BW who made a great transition, like Bogus, Rain, etc. The guy was a BW vet and a 50% vet at that. His style in BW was cookie cutter macro zerg. Below average micro, above average macro, plays fairly smart but not OMG game-sense. Just overall the definition of average. Really shows the randomness the transition can be for different players. I wouldn't call that randomness. It's mostly about how fast a player can adapt to a new game. SC2 and BW share lots of basic concepts, and a lot of skillsets transition well. Maybe it's easier for players without a definite personal style to do well in the new game. Especially players, who excelled in a certain aspect in BW seem to have a very hard time transitioning. (yes, I'm talking about Bisu.) I expect Flash to reach Code S this season, his macro has always been great, but now he seems to have got a deeper understanding of the game, which is needed to make good decisions in-game. Jaedong, on the other hand, still struggles alot. He's playing well, but he often tends to overextend and to play too aggressively. Roro was a good all-around zerg in BW. As you've said, he was pretty solid in every aspect of the game, but he wasn't relying heavily on a single element to be an above average player. (Just think of the 2base-muta-zergs) | ||
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jcairne
United States127 Posts
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Dingodile
4137 Posts
On February 16 2013 00:49 jcairne wrote: ro8 is all esf vs. kespa matches now wrong, taeja and mc aren't esf players. | ||
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petrox
Australia320 Posts
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Michaels
419 Posts
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pprrii
Russian Federation216 Posts
On February 16 2013 00:51 Dingodile wrote: wrong, taeja and mc aren't esf players. Same with Parting | ||
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jinsanity
United States137 Posts
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On February 16 2013 00:42 letian wrote: "Maybe its because I didn't ever follow broodwar" is the key phrase behind all your statements liberate71. [bold] is a pretty blanket statement to make about what I've been discussing. Especially when "I really don't understand how hostility is "fine" because everyone is anonymous." was in the exact same post. I'm sure it has some relevance (hence why I mentioned it) - but using it as potential "justification" for this entire "us vs them" fanatical bashing-heads fiasco to continue is a bit ridiculous  Dodgin's earlier post pretty much summed it up. On February 16 2013 00:19 Dodgin wrote: Flash said in his recent interview there is no difference between Kespa and eSF players, enough is enough and I know most everyone is tired of reading that crap in these threads. | ||
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StarGalaxy
Germany744 Posts
On February 16 2013 00:18 Zerg.Zilla wrote: You should just use Liquipedia...it's there for a reason  oh liquipedia has the matches before Gomtv announces them? well uh i didn't know that. That helped a lot thx. | ||
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Nightcat99
United States239 Posts
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On February 15 2013 23:46 TheBB wrote: With all due respect I think that interpretation is dumb. «Foreigner» means «not in possession of a South Korean citizenship», or in some cases «not trained in the South Korean scene». If people want to say «bad player» they should use the term «bad player». That is degrading. I disagree. People often refer to bad playing/players as going "full foreigner" which is an analogy used for poor play. Also, lets be more direct and accurate with the term. Foreigner is really "anybody" outside ones country. We're foreign to Korea and Korea is foreign to us. | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
I missed the games today, so I need to go check them out when I get chance. I really want to see Roros matches. | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On February 16 2013 00:13 Lightspeaker wrote: This. So much. Makes me sick to be frank. LR threads are utterly unreadable because of it. Team vs team rivalries are always pretty friendly. But the KeSPA vs ESF thing has just devolved into something disgustingly hostile and aggressive; all thanks to that damn "Elephant" article. So you think a fundamentally hostile environment is suitable for a website that acts as the major community hub is a good thing? Really? Not necessarily a good thing. It will happen regardless. The only "good thing" about it is that nobody gets physically hurt, like you see at some of these football/basketball games between fans. | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
I have him a chance  Life has a problem winning against Kespa Zergs. You have to keep in mind though, that a lot of people on here didn't follow BW. So, there choice will certainly almost always favor the SC2 bred pro gamers unless a Kespa players has a huge break through in something the SC2 fans see as prestigious such as winning the GSL. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
It's stupid to take such a large number of players as one collective being, if people would say " Innovation is better than X " no one would be mad at you, but if you say Kespa is better than eSF based on the achievements of one player or a few players then it makes no sense. This will be the last time I comment on this, It's been too many times. I just hope some of you take it to heart so we can all enjoy the forum more. | ||
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herMan
Japan2054 Posts
By the way, are people still promoting the silly EG curse? | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On February 16 2013 01:30 BlazeFury01 wrote: I have him a chance Life has a problem winning against Kespa Zergs. You have to keep in mind though, that a lot of people on here didn't follow BW. So, there choice will certainly almost always favor the SC2 bred pro gamers unless a Kespa players has a huge break through in something the SC2 fans see as prestigious such as winning the GSL.And there are just as many BW hardcore followers who would vote Kespa regardless of player and their game play (Remember in WCS Korean when they said Kespa players were just as good as eSF players even though they have only been playing 1 month? How many elephants jpeg were posted?). Like Flash himself just said, Kespa players are no different from eSF players. They are not more 'talented' in RTS games. It will come down to hard work and talent (in SC2). The elephant is dead (killed by the God Elephant himself). Honestly, the future top players of SC2 will be a mixed of eSF WoL stars, Kespa BW stars, eSF WoL non-stars that become great in HoTS and Kespa non-starts that become great in HoTS and maybe even a foreigner (could be Stephano or someone else). | ||
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sudosu
France120 Posts
If the 4 zergs go to semi finals i'd be depressing though :p | ||
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