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Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 23:28:47
February 11 2013 23:28 GMT
#201
Imagine parting executing the sentry-immo all-in but now with recall and time-warp ... :D
Terran & Potato Salad.
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 23:29:59
February 11 2013 23:28 GMT
#202
On February 12 2013 08:25 larse wrote:
If you don't use swarm host, you are not going to beat Protoss in hots.

You have to go swarm host.

You mean in late game? Maybe, if it every comes to that.

Swarm host is even better with terran though if they´re going a lot of mech (tanks). We´ll have to see how good HotS is figured out when we finally have a tournament with top level players in it. I´m not that impressed with that, yet. Nerchio vs, Babyknight was a nice surprise and very enjoyable games.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
February 11 2013 23:28 GMT
#203
On February 12 2013 08:27 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 08:26 ujonecro wrote:
Nercho should have researched Pneumatized Carapace, that is obviously the answer for HOTS.

We played this before the patch with speed ovies on hatchery


I think he was joking :D
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Glon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States569 Posts
February 11 2013 23:28 GMT
#204
On February 12 2013 08:26 StarVe wrote:
ZvZ might be the only matchup a Zerg will qualify for MLG from.
Apart from that, only NA Zergs and Curious have a good shot imo.



I'm just imagining Idra losing........

Sentry/immortal all in is ridiculous at the moment with the Mothership core.... So we'll see. It COULD happen.

But then again, Ddoro has also been inactive for like 4 months. But he's protoss, and it's HoTS. It's a toss up...
@QuanticGlon https://twitter.com/QuanticGlon
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 23:30:24
February 11 2013 23:28 GMT
#205
On February 12 2013 08:27 nkr wrote:
Stephano should be beating titan even with the current metagame, imo

Nevarrr, Titan too stronk! Anyway, Titan could have even had a decent shot at beating Stephano in WoL when he was in shape, I don't think HotS changes that, unless he hasn't been practicing at all which I fear.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
February 11 2013 23:29 GMT
#206
On February 12 2013 08:28 Glon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 08:26 StarVe wrote:
ZvZ might be the only matchup a Zerg will qualify for MLG from.
Apart from that, only NA Zergs and Curious have a good shot imo.



I'm just imagining Idra losing........

Sentry/immortal all in is ridiculous at the moment with the Mothership core.... So we'll see. It COULD happen.

But then again, Ddoro has also been inactive for like 4 months. But he's protoss, and it's HoTS. It's a toss up...


a toss up


i see what you did there
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larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
February 11 2013 23:30 GMT
#207
On February 12 2013 08:28 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 08:25 larse wrote:
If you don't use swarm host, you are not going to beat Protoss in hots.

You have to go swarm host.

You mean in late game? Probably, swarm host is pretty strong. Swarm host is even better with terran if they´re going a lot of mech (tanks). We´ll have to see how good HotS is figured out when we finally have a tournament with top level players in it. I´m not that impressed with that, yet. Nerchio vs, Babyknight was a nice surprise and very enjoyable games.


I mean go swarm host as fast as you can if you sense any 2-base play from Protoss.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 11 2013 23:31 GMT
#208
On February 12 2013 08:26 StarVe wrote:
ZvZ might be the only matchup a Zerg will qualify for MLG from.
Apart from that, only NA Zergs and Curious have a good shot imo.


I really think Stephano can do it. He's probably the most innovative WoL Zerg and with his mindset he should pick up on HotS pretty quickly.

Ret looked pretty good in ZvP on his stream as well. He was killing Mana earlier with SH/Roach/Corruptor

Then there's Nestea who will either have the most brilliant shit we've seen yet or go full Zergbong and get 3-0'd
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rpgalon
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil1069 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 23:31:22
February 11 2013 23:31 GMT
#209
Well, Babyknight looked like he had more knowledge on the HotS PvZ matchup...
badog
Vertitto
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland750 Posts
February 11 2013 23:31 GMT
#210
hope next series will be as good as these ones,
KeSPa ones were not exciting at all ; (
FISH MAKE BLUB BLUB
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 11 2013 23:32 GMT
#211
On February 12 2013 08:28 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Imagine parting executing the sentry-immo all-in but now with recall and time-warp ... :D

Sase did a gateway sentry all in against Idra on stream. Just Stalker/Sentry, no Immortals. He recalled when his 1st push looked like it wasn't going to kill Idra. Got some more energy on his Sentries, came back for part 2. Idra baited forcefields and managed to get a perfect surround, Sase recalled again. Came back for part 3, killed Idra.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
February 11 2013 23:33 GMT
#212
On February 12 2013 08:30 larse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 08:28 iSunrise wrote:
On February 12 2013 08:25 larse wrote:
If you don't use swarm host, you are not going to beat Protoss in hots.

You have to go swarm host.

You mean in late game? Probably, swarm host is pretty strong. Swarm host is even better with terran if they´re going a lot of mech (tanks). We´ll have to see how good HotS is figured out when we finally have a tournament with top level players in it. I´m not that impressed with that, yet. Nerchio vs, Babyknight was a nice surprise and very enjoyable games.


I mean go swarm host as fast as you can if you sense any 2-base play from Protoss.

Swarm host - Over seer - Corruptor is by far THE most Annoying composition to deal with as protoss, especially if you can contain on two bases sniping obvservers makes me want to pull all my hair out... or later on mix in vipers with blinding cloud and abducting collosi/tempests It's infuriating to deal with as a protoss
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
February 11 2013 23:34 GMT
#213
Zerg is actually really strong against protoss right now. We just haven't seen a good sample of games so far at all. I've lost maybe 1-2 of my last 20 ZvP games on ladder.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 11 2013 23:35 GMT
#214
On February 12 2013 08:19 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 08:18 Musicus wrote:
So smart from nerchio to go hatch first now, since Baby goes gateway first always. Man I love watching Nerchio in bo5/7s, it's a treat to observe how he switches things up and plays mindgames throughout the whole series.

Thanks! I enjoy this stuff too.


No problem, it's so cool to watch, I will never forget the bo7 against ForGG in the nvidia hots cup from Take I believe it was. He was so confused and thought you cheated :D.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
February 11 2013 23:35 GMT
#215
I have to give the advantage to Titan. Really strong player with no current focus on WoL (as far as I can tell), and he has always been strong in PvZ with meticulous and well thought-out builds.

Do we know when the matches were played?
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
February 11 2013 23:36 GMT
#216
On February 12 2013 08:32 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 08:28 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Imagine parting executing the sentry-immo all-in but now with recall and time-warp ... :D

Sase did a gateway sentry all in against Idra on stream. Just Stalker/Sentry, no Immortals. He recalled when his 1st push looked like it wasn't going to kill Idra. Got some more energy on his Sentries, came back for part 2. Idra baited forcefields and managed to get a perfect surround, Sase recalled again. Came back for part 3, killed Idra.

i imagine idras mindset after the 3rd push ahha well recall works quite well and i did a sentry immortal all in today with mothership core and time warp makes it so easy unbelievable
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Glon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States569 Posts
February 11 2013 23:36 GMT
#217
On February 12 2013 08:34 goswser wrote:
Zerg is actually really strong against protoss right now. We just haven't seen a good sample of games so far at all. I've lost maybe 1-2 of my last 20 ZvP games on ladder.



Andddd guess who is about to be bothering you on battle.net tonight?

You guessed it. Me. Lol.
@QuanticGlon https://twitter.com/QuanticGlon
Motoorhead
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland67 Posts
February 11 2013 23:36 GMT
#218
On February 12 2013 08:34 goswser wrote:
Zerg is actually really strong against protoss right now. We just haven't seen a good sample of games so far at all. I've lost maybe 1-2 of my last 20 ZvP games on ladder.


Who are you?
If you never stop - failure is not an option.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 11 2013 23:38 GMT
#219
On February 12 2013 08:34 goswser wrote:
Zerg is actually really strong against protoss right now. We just haven't seen a good sample of games so far at all. I've lost maybe 1-2 of my last 20 ZvP games on ladder.


Replay pack please!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 23:47:11
February 11 2013 23:38 GMT
#220
On February 12 2013 08:35 m0ck wrote:
I have to give the advantage to Titan. Really strong player with no current focus on WoL (as far as I can tell), and he has always been strong in PvZ with meticulous and well thought-out builds.

I google translated some goodgame.ru threads this weekend and according to some of the guys on there TitaN's focus was on poker the past couple of weeks.

"Translated" quote of Titan himself:


After all I started training a week ago, in the near future I will make a few streams, but without komentov.Neznayu about you, but I personally need a break from the old man, and therefore disappear. Just from my poor results, I do not have enough finances, so periodically go back to poker.

The plans by the end of the summer without a break.
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