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Occultus
Profile Joined July 2011
Kenya138 Posts
January 28 2013 17:40 GMT
#1061
Stephano, HuK, JD, ThorZaIN, Hero, IdrA would be so baller and I wouldnt care about loss or win.

Otherwise the whole EGTL thing is boring to watch. Seriously, if i wanna watch koreans i look at, Flash, MVP, MKP, Parting, Life etc...
Liquid and EG should stick to the old style with foreigners you can relate with.
"The greatest pleasure in life, is doing the things people say we cannot do."
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
January 28 2013 17:43 GMT
#1062
The amount of criticism egtl gets is totally ridiculous. No one complains about any other PL team even half as much when they lose. Guess it just goes to show how emotionally invested people are in the team, which is a good thing. Better to have people complaining than no one saying anything?
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
January 28 2013 17:44 GMT
#1063
On January 29 2013 02:40 Occultus wrote:
Stephano, HuK, JD, ThorZaIN, Hero, IdrA would be so baller and I wouldnt care about loss or win.

Otherwise the whole EGTL thing is boring to watch. Seriously, if i wanna watch koreans i look at, Flash, MVP, MKP, Parting, Life etc...
Liquid and EG should stick to the old style with foreigners you can relate with.

You would love to see them get smashed week after week - even worse than now - for an entire year? A weird sense of entertainment.
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
January 28 2013 17:46 GMT
#1064
I don't feel it is very embarrassing for a foreign team (actually fielding foreigners, at least 50%) to be dead last in a korean laegue. It would be more embarrassing if they did not give it their best shot. Sometimes, it makes their victories famous, especially if they were massive underdogs.

Let's take a recent case in soccer, by far the worlds most popular sport. We have liverpool, a team which everyone who watches football should know. And then we have oldham, perhaps one of the most obscure teams in england, who just managed to score a huge upset over liverpool in a tournament. That makes the game exciting without compromising a team's "small-town" identity.

A team may not have a huge fanbase or limitless resources but can strive to make up for it through hard work and honest play. That wins them dedicated fans and not glory hunters. Let's be frank we don't expect either EGTL or oldham to be topping their leagues any time soon. In fact they'll probably be stuck right at the bottom. But who's to say there's no space in a league for these teams?

There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
January 28 2013 17:49 GMT
#1065
On January 29 2013 00:15 esdf wrote:
Hmmm I don't get the logic of this, Stephano is saving his builds for Code S and thus not playing in PL, but he doesn't mind streaming 4 hours a day so every opponent in his group can dissect his play?
.


Quoting this because its hilarious the excuses of stephano not playing
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
January 28 2013 17:55 GMT
#1066
On January 29 2013 02:44 ES.Genie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 02:40 Occultus wrote:
Stephano, HuK, JD, ThorZaIN, Hero, IdrA would be so baller and I wouldnt care about loss or win.

Otherwise the whole EGTL thing is boring to watch. Seriously, if i wanna watch koreans i look at, Flash, MVP, MKP, Parting, Life etc...
Liquid and EG should stick to the old style with foreigners you can relate with.

You would love to see them get smashed week after week - even worse than now - for an entire year? A weird sense of entertainment.


Jaedong, Hero, Stephano and Huk smashed every week? ...
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
January 28 2013 17:56 GMT
#1067
On January 29 2013 02:49 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 00:15 esdf wrote:
Hmmm I don't get the logic of this, Stephano is saving his builds for Code S and thus not playing in PL, but he doesn't mind streaming 4 hours a day so every opponent in his group can dissect his play?
.


Quoting this because its hilarious the excuses of stephano not playing


They ve obviously been ordered by EG to stream.
Occultus
Profile Joined July 2011
Kenya138 Posts
January 28 2013 17:56 GMT
#1068
On January 29 2013 02:44 ES.Genie wrote:

You would love to see them get smashed week after week - even worse than now - for an entire year? A weird sense of entertainment.


Would be pretty much the same like now. Best players JD, Hero and Stephano still on the roster and the rest is good for an occasional win in a bo1. 7th or 8th place after all. Does it matter?
At the moment its like 'alright, do foreigners play today? No, well brb 2 hours and checking results'
"The greatest pleasure in life, is doing the things people say we cannot do."
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
January 28 2013 18:00 GMT
#1069
On January 29 2013 02:55 Psychobabas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 02:44 ES.Genie wrote:
On January 29 2013 02:40 Occultus wrote:
Stephano, HuK, JD, ThorZaIN, Hero, IdrA would be so baller and I wouldnt care about loss or win.

Otherwise the whole EGTL thing is boring to watch. Seriously, if i wanna watch koreans i look at, Flash, MVP, MKP, Parting, Life etc...
Liquid and EG should stick to the old style with foreigners you can relate with.

You would love to see them get smashed week after week - even worse than now - for an entire year? A weird sense of entertainment.


Jaedong, Hero, Stephano and Huk smashed every week? ...

Huk is terrible, Stephano unproven in PL format(and probably not even there for the entire season) and neither JD nor Hero are S class PL players. Pretty sure they won't do any better than they are doing now.
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
T.O.P
Profile Joined December 2012
469 Posts
January 28 2013 18:01 GMT
#1070
EG-TL overrated.. just saying.
I'm not the real T.O.P just a fan!
FineAndDandy
Profile Joined January 2013
166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-28 18:13:14
January 28 2013 18:06 GMT
#1071
On January 29 2013 02:55 Psychobabas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 02:44 ES.Genie wrote:
On January 29 2013 02:40 Occultus wrote:
Stephano, HuK, JD, ThorZaIN, Hero, IdrA would be so baller and I wouldnt care about loss or win.

Otherwise the whole EGTL thing is boring to watch. Seriously, if i wanna watch koreans i look at, Flash, MVP, MKP, Parting, Life etc...
Liquid and EG should stick to the old style with foreigners you can relate with.

You would love to see them get smashed week after week - even worse than now - for an entire year? A weird sense of entertainment.


Jaedong, Hero, Stephano and Huk smashed every week? ...


Need 6 players in regular format. If the other players can't win games, even if all 4 players here have 80% winrate, the team is still only at 41% winrate in regular format.
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
January 28 2013 18:07 GMT
#1072
On January 29 2013 03:01 T.O.P wrote:
EG-TL overrated.. just saying.


not for my anti-team :D
MiQ
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada312 Posts
January 28 2013 18:29 GMT
#1073
Why the hell are Zenio and Puma playing every damn week. Their results are beyond subpar.

When I heard of EG-TL I got excited at the thought of watching foreigners battle it out with the big boys but this is just boring to watch. Bring back HuK Stephano and Thorzain and drop half of the koreans since they obviously can't get shit done.
Tons of damage
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
January 28 2013 18:30 GMT
#1074
WTF TRAP WON!?!??!

I left because Revival had that wrapped up.

WHAT THE HELL
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
January 28 2013 18:40 GMT
#1075
On January 29 2013 02:55 Psychobabas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 02:44 ES.Genie wrote:
On January 29 2013 02:40 Occultus wrote:
Stephano, HuK, JD, ThorZaIN, Hero, IdrA would be so baller and I wouldnt care about loss or win.

Otherwise the whole EGTL thing is boring to watch. Seriously, if i wanna watch koreans i look at, Flash, MVP, MKP, Parting, Life etc...
Liquid and EG should stick to the old style with foreigners you can relate with.

You would love to see them get smashed week after week - even worse than now - for an entire year? A weird sense of entertainment.


Jaedong, Hero, Stephano and Huk smashed every week? ...

Uhh HuK is pretty bad. HerO and JD have days where they look like they don't know what they're doing.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
January 28 2013 18:43 GMT
#1076
On January 29 2013 02:23 Psychobabas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 02:21 Whatson wrote:
EG-TL was never about the foreigners. The whole "TL is a foreign team" thing is quite honestly a joke when all the results they get in tournaments and team leagues all come from the Koreans. At least Stephano wins stuff for EG. The whole Proleague endeavor was meant to be Koreans + Stephano getting all the wins, all the other foreigners tagging along for the ride.
People should just be happy they aren't last on the list, unlike a certain "foreign" team in GSTL that showed what happens when you try to field foreigners in a Korean teamleague.


Well qxc did allkill IM at one point...

Good job, he cheesed MVP...what almost 1 and a half years ago?
Doesn't prove me wrong anyways, so idk.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
January 28 2013 18:43 GMT
#1077
EG/TL's performance and the coaching decisions are a real shame for the foreign esports scene.

Why were the coaches chosen? Fire them now and bring in Nazgul as coach!

EG/TL should have a foreigner coach, because even a foreigner coach would know not to send out Puma for a 5th time.

Its just so sad........ Under the right leadership, this team would be contending.

Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
January 28 2013 19:02 GMT
#1078
I don't get why HerO, Jaedong, and Stephano aren't consistently played. With Taeja hurt, those are the three players I'd trust the most to win games. People are saying things like Stephano doesn't want to give away strats for Code S. If that's the case, have him practice the KeSPA maps in Proleague (which he should be learning anyways) and put him out on those. People are saying HerO hasn't performed that well in Proleague. This may be true, but he's much more likely to give you a chance to win games than Puma or Zenio. If their roster was healthy, they'd have HerO, Jaedong, Stephano, and Taeja. If all of those guys get played, there's a good chance you win a few games and then use the less consistent JYP and Revival to grab another and potentially win the match.

Despite me complaining though, I think not having Taeja really hurt this team, especially in Round 2. Injuries suck.
Dundron2000
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1140 Posts
January 28 2013 19:04 GMT
#1079
mah Jaedong
n.Die_Jaedong
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-28 19:18:19
January 28 2013 19:17 GMT
#1080
On January 29 2013 04:02 Swords wrote:
I don't get why HerO, Jaedong, and Stephano aren't consistently played. With Taeja hurt, those are the three players I'd trust the most to win games. People are saying things like Stephano doesn't want to give away strats for Code S. If that's the case, have him practice the KeSPA maps in Proleague (which he should be learning anyways) and put him out on those. People are saying HerO hasn't performed that well in Proleague. This may be true, but he's much more likely to give you a chance to win games than Puma or Zenio. If their roster was healthy, they'd have HerO, Jaedong, Stephano, and Taeja. If all of those guys get played, there's a good chance you win a few games and then use the less consistent JYP and Revival to grab another and potentially win the match.

Despite me complaining though, I think not having Taeja really hurt this team, especially in Round 2. Injuries suck.


Funny thing is HerO was by far their best player in Round 2.
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