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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
January 28 2013 19:23 GMT
#1081
On January 29 2013 02:55 Psychobabas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 02:44 ES.Genie wrote:
On January 29 2013 02:40 Occultus wrote:
Stephano, HuK, JD, ThorZaIN, Hero, IdrA would be so baller and I wouldnt care about loss or win.

Otherwise the whole EGTL thing is boring to watch. Seriously, if i wanna watch koreans i look at, Flash, MVP, MKP, Parting, Life etc...
Liquid and EG should stick to the old style with foreigners you can relate with.

You would love to see them get smashed week after week - even worse than now - for an entire year? A weird sense of entertainment.


Jaedong, Hero, Stephano and Huk smashed every week? ...

I am a Huk fan, but objectively speaking, watching him play, he's not good.
Refer to my post.
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-28 19:25:37
January 28 2013 19:24 GMT
#1082
On January 29 2013 03:30 Sabu113 wrote:
WTF TRAP WON!?!??!

I left because Revival had that wrapped up.

WHAT THE HELL


Yeah i know what you mean. He pretty much smashed that sentry immortal all in. Plus he had a gold base. Still lost

On January 29 2013 04:23 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 02:55 Psychobabas wrote:
On January 29 2013 02:44 ES.Genie wrote:
On January 29 2013 02:40 Occultus wrote:
Stephano, HuK, JD, ThorZaIN, Hero, IdrA would be so baller and I wouldnt care about loss or win.

Otherwise the whole EGTL thing is boring to watch. Seriously, if i wanna watch koreans i look at, Flash, MVP, MKP, Parting, Life etc...
Liquid and EG should stick to the old style with foreigners you can relate with.

You would love to see them get smashed week after week - even worse than now - for an entire year? A weird sense of entertainment.


Jaedong, Hero, Stephano and Huk smashed every week? ...

I am a Huk fan, but objectively speaking, watching him play, he's not good.


I hear people in Code S are terrible.
FineAndDandy
Profile Joined January 2013
166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-28 19:26:43
January 28 2013 19:25 GMT
#1083
On January 29 2013 04:02 Swords wrote:
I don't get why HerO, Jaedong, and Stephano aren't consistently played. With Taeja hurt, those are the three players I'd trust the most to win games. People are saying things like Stephano doesn't want to give away strats for Code S. If that's the case, have him practice the KeSPA maps in Proleague (which he should be learning anyways) and put him out on those. People are saying HerO hasn't performed that well in Proleague. This may be true, but he's much more likely to give you a chance to win games than Puma or Zenio. If their roster was healthy, they'd have HerO, Jaedong, Stephano, and Taeja. If all of those guys get played, there's a good chance you win a few games and then use the less consistent JYP and Revival to grab another and potentially win the match.

Despite me complaining though, I think not having Taeja really hurt this team, especially in Round 2. Injuries suck.



Zenio's games should be played by stephano. Other than that, not much to complain.

HerO is already in the lineup for this match, just not lucky with the map draw to get to that point. Jaedong has played good amount of games recently, with less than expected wins in all-kill format though. Puma as the best terran other than Taeja, he has to replace Taeja with his injury.

2nd tier players need to step up to win some games, can't rely upon only 4 players in regular format. Right now, supporting players can't even win 1 game.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-28 19:39:09
January 28 2013 19:38 GMT
#1084
I think the lack of foreigners is most disappointing. If Thorzain, HuK and Stephano play more often, then they would still lose, but at least there would be the excitement of having fan favorites. I would apply the same logic to picking Jaedong over Revival. I don't care that Revival might be slightly better in team-rankings or whatever, I want to be able to see Jaedong play every week and chart his progress.

I also hope that IdrA will participate during Round 4, he could very well be the best HotS player in the world right now.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
zala2023
Profile Joined April 2011
United States228 Posts
January 28 2013 19:41 GMT
#1085
Huh didnt Thorzain beat Classic in one of the earlier rounds?
Do some of you really believe that Puma(0-5) is better than Thorzain?
Sure Thorzain spend all day playing HotS, but he might get better with enough stage time and practice.
Puma peaked like 18 months ago and has been getting worse and worse ever since with no signs of improvement.
relax bro we got this
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
January 28 2013 19:42 GMT
#1086
Unfortunately, Taeja's injured, and Stephano is most likely preoccupied/being rested for Code S. Pretty big handicap on EG-TL to have their two best players out of commission, and sadly, their usually steady supports of JYP/Revival couldn't pull out the wins this time.
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
SniperVul5
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada166 Posts
January 28 2013 19:45 GMT
#1087
EG-TL KR still loses....
welcome to pro........ wait a minute...
SlayerS_BoxxY
Profile Joined June 2012
United States64 Posts
January 28 2013 19:46 GMT
#1088
On January 29 2013 04:23 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 02:55 Psychobabas wrote:
On January 29 2013 02:44 ES.Genie wrote:
On January 29 2013 02:40 Occultus wrote:
Stephano, HuK, JD, ThorZaIN, Hero, IdrA would be so baller and I wouldnt care about loss or win.

Otherwise the whole EGTL thing is boring to watch. Seriously, if i wanna watch koreans i look at, Flash, MVP, MKP, Parting, Life etc...
Liquid and EG should stick to the old style with foreigners you can relate with.

You would love to see them get smashed week after week - even worse than now - for an entire year? A weird sense of entertainment.


Jaedong, Hero, Stephano and Huk smashed every week? ...

I am a Huk fan, but objectively speaking, watching him play, he's not good.


What Huk is good at is carefully prepared timings. Proleague is a format where he could definitely contribute.
Omnidroid
Profile Joined November 2011
New Zealand214 Posts
January 28 2013 19:51 GMT
#1089
How was Jaedong's game?
hangarninetysix
Profile Joined August 2010
263 Posts
January 28 2013 20:00 GMT
#1090
Round 4, EG-TL has a good chance of doing really well with the people they have focused on HotS.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-28 20:06:22
January 28 2013 20:05 GMT
#1091
Pretty funny not to see stephano play when he's only in korea for a limited time until all the foreign tourneys ramp up again in March, then I see him not playing PL for the rest of the year or at least not very much at all.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 28 2013 20:14 GMT
#1092
On January 29 2013 04:51 Omnidroid wrote:
How was Jaedong's game?


Was very 1 sided.

Jaedong saw no forge FE went fast lair and did a speed roach timing that killed trap.

Trap went 1 gate expo into stargate + robo + twilight unless I am mistaken. When he went stargate he started out phoenix so he had 2-3 phoenix when the roach timing hit and like 4 sentries.

When I think of something else, something will go here
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-28 20:28:31
January 28 2013 20:27 GMT
#1093
On January 29 2013 04:38 Grumbels wrote:
I think the lack of foreigners is most disappointing. If Thorzain, HuK and Stephano play more often, then they would still lose, but at least there would be the excitement of having fan favorites. I would apply the same logic to picking Jaedong over Revival. I don't care that Revival might be slightly better in team-rankings or whatever, I want to be able to see Jaedong play every week and chart his progress.

I also hope that IdrA will participate during Round 4, he could very well be the best HotS player in the world right now.


The thing is, while Revival may be better in team rankings, nobody beats the dong televised, not on that team. His "nervous" is the rest of the team's hanging from 1,000 foot cliff over the top of 900 foot dinosaurs with a stiff breeze while their nose itches and saggy poop drawers. He should be the go-to zerg and he should always (unless for toms-foolery mind tricks) play ace.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-28 20:30:53
January 28 2013 20:30 GMT
#1094
On January 29 2013 05:05 Canucklehead wrote:
Pretty funny not to see stephano play when he's only in korea for a limited time until all the foreign tourneys ramp up again in March, then I see him not playing PL for the rest of the year or at least not very much at all.


If that's true, then that's exactly why I wouldn't play him. It may net you a few wins in the short-term, but if you have faith in the team and want it to grow long-term, why field players that won't be around later?
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
January 28 2013 20:43 GMT
#1095
On January 29 2013 04:24 skatblast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 03:30 Sabu113 wrote:
WTF TRAP WON!?!??!

I left because Revival had that wrapped up.

WHAT THE HELL


Yeah i know what you mean. He pretty much smashed that sentry immortal all in. Plus he had a gold base. Still lost

Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 04:23 Zenbrez wrote:
On January 29 2013 02:55 Psychobabas wrote:
On January 29 2013 02:44 ES.Genie wrote:
On January 29 2013 02:40 Occultus wrote:
Stephano, HuK, JD, ThorZaIN, Hero, IdrA would be so baller and I wouldnt care about loss or win.

Otherwise the whole EGTL thing is boring to watch. Seriously, if i wanna watch koreans i look at, Flash, MVP, MKP, Parting, Life etc...
Liquid and EG should stick to the old style with foreigners you can relate with.

You would love to see them get smashed week after week - even worse than now - for an entire year? A weird sense of entertainment.


Jaedong, Hero, Stephano and Huk smashed every week? ...

I am a Huk fan, but objectively speaking, watching him play, he's not good.


I hear people in Code S are terrible.

If he didn't get seeded to up/down he would have never gotten there. He also got demolished in code S.
Refer to my post.
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
January 28 2013 20:48 GMT
#1096
On January 29 2013 05:27 danl9rm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 04:38 Grumbels wrote:
I think the lack of foreigners is most disappointing. If Thorzain, HuK and Stephano play more often, then they would still lose, but at least there would be the excitement of having fan favorites. I would apply the same logic to picking Jaedong over Revival. I don't care that Revival might be slightly better in team-rankings or whatever, I want to be able to see Jaedong play every week and chart his progress.

I also hope that IdrA will participate during Round 4, he could very well be the best HotS player in the world right now.


The thing is, while Revival may be better in team rankings, nobody beats the dong televised, not on that team. His "nervous" is the rest of the team's hanging from 1,000 foot cliff over the top of 900 foot dinosaurs with a stiff breeze while their nose itches and saggy poop drawers. He should be the go-to zerg and he should always (unless for toms-foolery mind tricks) play ace.


Yeah sure...Stephano, Taeja and Hero are (way) better than Jaedong right now (Hero should never play an ace match though).
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
January 28 2013 20:51 GMT
#1097
On January 29 2013 04:24 skatblast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 03:30 Sabu113 wrote:
WTF TRAP WON!?!??!

I left because Revival had that wrapped up.

WHAT THE HELL


Yeah i know what you mean. He pretty much smashed that sentry immortal all in. Plus he had a gold base. Still lost

Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 04:23 Zenbrez wrote:
On January 29 2013 02:55 Psychobabas wrote:
On January 29 2013 02:44 ES.Genie wrote:
On January 29 2013 02:40 Occultus wrote:
Stephano, HuK, JD, ThorZaIN, Hero, IdrA would be so baller and I wouldnt care about loss or win.

Otherwise the whole EGTL thing is boring to watch. Seriously, if i wanna watch koreans i look at, Flash, MVP, MKP, Parting, Life etc...
Liquid and EG should stick to the old style with foreigners you can relate with.

You would love to see them get smashed week after week - even worse than now - for an entire year? A weird sense of entertainment.


Jaedong, Hero, Stephano and Huk smashed every week? ...

I am a Huk fan, but objectively speaking, watching him play, he's not good.


I hear people in Code S are terrible.

I'm tired of this argument. HuK got seeded straight into Code S. He dropped into Code B last year and would still be there if it weren't for the seed.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-28 21:46:14
January 28 2013 21:45 GMT
#1098
On January 29 2013 04:24 skatblast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 03:30 Sabu113 wrote:
WTF TRAP WON!?!??!

I left because Revival had that wrapped up.

WHAT THE HELL


Yeah i know what you mean. He pretty much smashed that sentry immortal all in. Plus he had a gold base. Still lost

Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 04:23 Zenbrez wrote:
On January 29 2013 02:55 Psychobabas wrote:
On January 29 2013 02:44 ES.Genie wrote:
On January 29 2013 02:40 Occultus wrote:
Stephano, HuK, JD, ThorZaIN, Hero, IdrA would be so baller and I wouldnt care about loss or win.

Otherwise the whole EGTL thing is boring to watch. Seriously, if i wanna watch koreans i look at, Flash, MVP, MKP, Parting, Life etc...
Liquid and EG should stick to the old style with foreigners you can relate with.

You would love to see them get smashed week after week - even worse than now - for an entire year? A weird sense of entertainment.


Jaedong, Hero, Stephano and Huk smashed every week? ...

I am a Huk fan, but objectively speaking, watching him play, he's not good.


I hear people in Code S are terrible.


Can't judge a player poorly or well based on results. If you watched his code S games he won, they were really shaky, awful games that basically indicated nothing. He hasn't shown a hint of depth in a long time.

On January 29 2013 05:05 Canucklehead wrote:
Pretty funny not to see stephano play when he's only in korea for a limited time until all the foreign tourneys ramp up again in March, then I see him not playing PL for the rest of the year or at least not very much at all.


He's focusing on GSL. Same reason we didn't see JD play before due to GSL.
Mariosatr
Profile Joined September 2012
294 Posts
January 28 2013 22:01 GMT
#1099
On January 29 2013 05:51 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 04:24 skatblast wrote:
On January 29 2013 03:30 Sabu113 wrote:
WTF TRAP WON!?!??!

I left because Revival had that wrapped up.

WHAT THE HELL


Yeah i know what you mean. He pretty much smashed that sentry immortal all in. Plus he had a gold base. Still lost

On January 29 2013 04:23 Zenbrez wrote:
On January 29 2013 02:55 Psychobabas wrote:
On January 29 2013 02:44 ES.Genie wrote:
On January 29 2013 02:40 Occultus wrote:
Stephano, HuK, JD, ThorZaIN, Hero, IdrA would be so baller and I wouldnt care about loss or win.

Otherwise the whole EGTL thing is boring to watch. Seriously, if i wanna watch koreans i look at, Flash, MVP, MKP, Parting, Life etc...
Liquid and EG should stick to the old style with foreigners you can relate with.

You would love to see them get smashed week after week - even worse than now - for an entire year? A weird sense of entertainment.


Jaedong, Hero, Stephano and Huk smashed every week? ...

I am a Huk fan, but objectively speaking, watching him play, he's not good.


I hear people in Code S are terrible.

I'm tired of this argument. HuK got seeded straight into Code S. He dropped into Code B last year and would still be there if it weren't for the seed.

If you're tired, you should at least get your facts right. HuK got a seed into up and downs and he downright deserved it, beating Fantasy, Center and Flying, but losing to NesTea and finale. He bombed out of Code S simply because he was in a very hard group with Sniper (last champ), GuMiho and Bomber (both top code S terran). He tries for the Prelims every time and gets somewhat better each time; he barely didn't make it last time. I'm sure HuK can make a decent run into Code A at least. He may not be as good as Proleague, but he did put up a good performance in GSL.
A mind sharper than any blade.
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
January 28 2013 22:01 GMT
#1100
On January 29 2013 06:45 Mohdoo wrote:


Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 05:05 Canucklehead wrote:
Pretty funny not to see stephano play when he's only in korea for a limited time until all the foreign tourneys ramp up again in March, then I see him not playing PL for the rest of the year or at least not very much at all.


He's focusing on GSL. Same reason we didn't see JD play before due to GSL.


I think it's that plus the fact the opposite team was STX Soul, the team of his direct opponent in GSL.
I'm not saying it is a good idea since STX Soul let Bogus play. I don't know.
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