EPT[SPL] EG-Liquid vs CJ Entus R2 - Page 159
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birchman
Sweden393 Posts
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
e:Feel bad for JYP going to play on this map and losing to ling runbys, maybe he didnt prepare enough for this map, but still GG EGTL! | ||
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Awatsu
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61% PvT 51% TvZ 42% ZvP seems that since kespa players like mutaling and don't abuse infestors, the matchup is currently balanced for them? (lol at Ohana 8-2 for protoss) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012-2013_Proleague/Statistics | ||
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JmCw
Germany68 Posts
On January 12 2013 23:56 Awatsu wrote: it's me or terran stop winning once they started playing in a GSTL format instead of the proleague one. 61% PvT 51% TvZ 42% ZvP seems that since kespa players like mutaling and don't abuse infestors, the matchup is currently balanced for them? (lol at Ohana 8-2 for protoss) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012-2013_Proleague/Statistics you should definitely try to use an even smaller sample size in order to talk about balance. Should be more convincing then ^^ | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On January 12 2013 23:50 ppshchik wrote: HerO fanboys really need to shut the fuck up and stop seeing their hero (no pun intended) as the second coming of christ.. It's like seeing SKT1 fanboys whining about their team sending out BeSt in their ace matches instead of Bisu. HerO and Bisu are equally overrated in their respective careers. Considering he's the player Kespa protoss studied from and probably continue to do so, no. No I don't think so. And Bisu wasn't overrated. | ||
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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
On January 13 2013 00:00 DarkLordOlli wrote: Considering he's the player Kespa protoss studied from and probably continue to do so, no. No I don't think so. And Bisu wasn't overrated. He was overrated by the time BeSt became Ace material, Bisu was no where near Jangbi, or even Stork's level of success during that period. | ||
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TheShimmy
United States1808 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On January 13 2013 00:05 ppshchik wrote: He was overrated by the time BeSt became Ace material, Bisu was no where near Jangbi, or even Stork's level of success during that period. He was however the best PvZ player in the world and one of the greatest influences to the overall protoss game. Same with HerO. That and the fact that HerO continues to do well in tournaments show that HerO is not overrated by any means. He might be inconsistent and nerves get to him but in terms of skill and potential he's the best player on EGTL and one of the very best in the world. At least in my book. The only problems are his inconsistency and mentality. When HerO is comfortable and confident, he just beats almost everybody. | ||
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SkimGuy
Canada709 Posts
On January 13 2013 00:05 ppshchik wrote: He was overrated by the time BeSt became Ace material, Bisu was no where near Jangbi, or even Stork's level of success during that period. Pretty sure Fantasy is SKT1's Ace, if not their best player | ||
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2muchSWAG
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On January 13 2013 00:08 TheShimmy wrote: Stephano!! Why on Earth did they play JYP instead of JD, or Teaja? Madness.. I don't know about Taeja, but JD just game back from the U.S and was probably very jet-lagged and tired. Not the ideal conditions for an ace match. | ||
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TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
On January 13 2013 00:16 2muchSWAG wrote: Wow aside from bbyong none of these KeSPA players are even I'm code s. How did they beat the likes of code s players like Huk and stephano? And what happened to the TL portion of EGTL? Anyone have a clue as to why liquid hero or Taeja wasn't sent out? Were the TL players elsewhere at that moment? maybe they were not the right picks for the situation? Don't make a drama if one time there is no TL player used... jeez! | ||
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Tsutchie
Australia951 Posts
On January 13 2013 00:15 SkimGuy wrote: Pretty sure Fantasy is SKT1's Ace, if not their best player are we talking about broodwar or sc2 because bisu has the record for most win in proleague with 63 wins in a season, combine that with his 3 msl wins and him revolutionising pvz i dont think he is overated. in sc2 he is chobo. | ||
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IMLyte
Canada714 Posts
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Hider
Denmark9447 Posts
On January 12 2013 20:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote: No. You need to take the map into account. You NEED to. That's what ProLeague is based on. Not just who is doing good right now, who is nervous or not, who is jetlagged etc. If EG-TL wants to do better they need to seriously start taking maps into account and preparing really hard for individual maps, picking snipers and so on. This is what adds a whole 'nother layer of depth to team leagues and why it's so interesting and fun to watch. The fact that this is nothing new to Kespa teams is a big advantage toi have over EG-TL, even though on paper their line-ups might be (and most would agree) considerably weaker. I know that there is consensus amongst alot of observers of Starcraft that designing specific strategies for certain maps and developing specific builds for certain players matters a great deal - but the truth is that it actually doesn't. Most "map strategies" are figured out, and if they aren't figured out, then you need be insanely creative to figure them out which isn't always something you can just do. Also most players don't have so obviously flaws that you can just develop counter-builds to beat them. | ||
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Jochan
Poland1730 Posts
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
2. So, so much anger......... | ||
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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adhoul
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