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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 10 2013 10:44 GMT
#821
On January 10 2013 19:43 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 19:38 FakeDeath wrote:
On January 10 2013 19:33 Type|NarutO wrote:
On January 10 2013 19:32 Wintex wrote:
On January 10 2013 19:27 Type|NarutO wrote:
Sorry to say to all NesTea fans, but NesTea is a terrible player if you talk about progamers. He has no progress at all in his match up, no variety. He has only his ling/bane/muta style which is actually exactly what a good Terran would want to face. If FantaSy would be not as sloppy as he was, he would have won easily.

I don't understand why NesTea doesn't switch up his game. He has great mechanics, but other than that.... I cannot understand his decision to go muta/ling/bane which is basically dead against a well playing Terran. The position where FantaSy lost everything could have already been game over if he did set up his tanks and marines in a correct way.

=.=;


He's fun to watch, does his thing, and still stays in GSL. Btw, consider a name change. That anime is horrible.


Consider thinking before posting. Might be not the reason I chose the nickname ! Also can't argue about taste.


Consider thinking before saying Nestea is a terrible player.
Considering how he dropped to Code B and still has the fighting spirit to come back for a 30 year old,
I say that is pretty impressive.

Also he is a X3 GSL Champion.

Frankly speaking,calling him terrible player is just bad from you.


Are you dumb? Watch him play. Every top foreign Zerg now is a better player and at least in ZvT more scary. Sorry to hurt your feelings with it, but I base what I write on his games, not because I dislike him. I acknowledge his fighting spirit and I'm not saying he is TERRIBLE as Starcraft 2 player, but in terms of being a full-time professional Korean, he is terrible. Thats how it is, even if its sad.

Maybe get your head out of his ass and watch the games. I don't rate players on their previous achievements.... they don't matter if you talk about current skill. NaDa in his prime of broodwar was unbelievable, owned so much and even though he was a better player overall in his future career, compared to others he wasn't just as good anymore. He had one last very intense and good OSL iirc, but well, wasnt enough.

Same with NesTea. He was a good player, maybe ahead of his opponents at his time but right now he's nothing but average. If you cannot agree with it, just don't but don't insult others nickname because their opinion hurt you. Thats ridiculous.


Nada vs Jangbi, never forget.
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Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
January 10 2013 10:44 GMT
#822
On January 10 2013 19:43 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 19:38 FakeDeath wrote:
On January 10 2013 19:33 Type|NarutO wrote:
On January 10 2013 19:32 Wintex wrote:
On January 10 2013 19:27 Type|NarutO wrote:
Sorry to say to all NesTea fans, but NesTea is a terrible player if you talk about progamers. He has no progress at all in his match up, no variety. He has only his ling/bane/muta style which is actually exactly what a good Terran would want to face. If FantaSy would be not as sloppy as he was, he would have won easily.

I don't understand why NesTea doesn't switch up his game. He has great mechanics, but other than that.... I cannot understand his decision to go muta/ling/bane which is basically dead against a well playing Terran. The position where FantaSy lost everything could have already been game over if he did set up his tanks and marines in a correct way.

=.=;


He's fun to watch, does his thing, and still stays in GSL. Btw, consider a name change. That anime is horrible.


Consider thinking before posting. Might be not the reason I chose the nickname ! Also can't argue about taste.


Consider thinking before saying Nestea is a terrible player.
Considering how he dropped to Code B and still has the fighting spirit to come back for a 30 year old,
I say that is pretty impressive.

Also he is a X3 GSL Champion.

Frankly speaking,calling him terrible player is just bad from you.


Are you dumb? Watch him play. Every top foreign Zerg now is a better player and at least in ZvT more scary. Sorry to hurt your feelings with it, but I base what I write on his games, not because I dislike him. I acknowledge his fighting spirit and I'm not saying he is TERRIBLE as Starcraft 2 player, but in terms of being a full-time professional Korean, he is terrible. Thats how it is, even if its sad.

Maybe get your head out of his ass and watch the games. I don't rate players on their previous achievements.... they don't matter if you talk about current skill. NaDa in his prime of broodwar was unbelievable, owned so much and even though he was a better player overall in his future career, compared to others he wasn't just as good anymore. He had one last very intense and good OSL iirc, but well, wasnt enough.

Same with NesTea. He was a good player, maybe ahead of his opponents at his time but right now he's nothing but average. If you cannot agree with it, just don't but don't insult others nickname because their opinion hurt you. Thats ridiculous.

harsh but true.
Maruprime.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 10 2013 10:44 GMT
#823
On January 10 2013 19:42 Darkthorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 19:41 Dodgin wrote:
Why are Kespa players not named Fantasy Flash and Jaedong so terrible at up/down matches?

Because the other kespa players in the up and down suck?


Shy is pretty good though
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
January 10 2013 10:44 GMT
#824
where is the flying that beat mvp and parting in the osl ?
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
January 10 2013 10:45 GMT
#825
C'mon Huk, win the next game and go up 2 - 0.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
January 10 2013 10:45 GMT
#826
On January 10 2013 19:43 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 19:38 FakeDeath wrote:
On January 10 2013 19:33 Type|NarutO wrote:
On January 10 2013 19:32 Wintex wrote:
On January 10 2013 19:27 Type|NarutO wrote:
Sorry to say to all NesTea fans, but NesTea is a terrible player if you talk about progamers. He has no progress at all in his match up, no variety. He has only his ling/bane/muta style which is actually exactly what a good Terran would want to face. If FantaSy would be not as sloppy as he was, he would have won easily.

I don't understand why NesTea doesn't switch up his game. He has great mechanics, but other than that.... I cannot understand his decision to go muta/ling/bane which is basically dead against a well playing Terran. The position where FantaSy lost everything could have already been game over if he did set up his tanks and marines in a correct way.

=.=;


He's fun to watch, does his thing, and still stays in GSL. Btw, consider a name change. That anime is horrible.


Consider thinking before posting. Might be not the reason I chose the nickname ! Also can't argue about taste.


Consider thinking before saying Nestea is a terrible player.
Considering how he dropped to Code B and still has the fighting spirit to come back for a 30 year old,
I say that is pretty impressive.

Also he is a X3 GSL Champion.

Frankly speaking,calling him terrible player is just bad from you.


Are you dumb? Watch him play. Every top foreign Zerg now is a better player and at least in ZvT more scary. Sorry to hurt your feelings with it, but I base what I write on his games, not because I dislike him. I acknowledge his fighting spirit and I'm not saying he is TERRIBLE as Starcraft 2 player, but in terms of being a full-time professional Korean, he is terrible. Thats how it is, even if its sad.

Maybe get your head out of his ass and watch the games. I don't rate players on their previous achievements.... they don't matter if you talk about current skill. NaDa in his prime of broodwar was unbelievable, owned so much and even though he was a better player overall in his future career, compared to others he wasn't just as good anymore. He had one last very intense and good OSL iirc, but well, wasnt enough.

Same with NesTea. He was a good player, maybe ahead of his opponents at his time but right now he's nothing but average. If you cannot agree with it, just don't but don't insult others nickname because their opinion hurt you. Thats ridiculous.

If you try to get as grasp of his strategical progress.. there is NONE. I can link you his GSL games from 2 years ago ZvT and from now. Only difference might be he is getting ultras occasionally now... other than that. Ling, Muta, Bane... always.


He didn't insult your nickname?
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Prugelhugel
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria637 Posts
January 10 2013 10:45 GMT
#827
eh ge huk ladyboy!
"This map definitly needs more rocks" - No SC2 player ever
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 10 2013 10:45 GMT
#828
COME ON HUK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
January 10 2013 10:45 GMT
#829
On January 10 2013 19:45 Prugelhugel wrote:
eh ge huk ladyboy!


Lol, that is not Dragon playing.
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
January 10 2013 10:46 GMT
#830
See GOM player was awesome. This is what flash gets you.
Someone call down the Thunder?
teamamerica
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States958 Posts
January 10 2013 10:46 GMT
#831
On January 10 2013 19:43 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 19:42 Chandra wrote:
Oh my opponent made colossi? I'm just going to make a few vikings, pull all my scvs, amove and auto-win.


Well MVP invented that move.

Beat Rain twice in a single series in GSL Code S Semis using that build.


To be fair in the one game I remember him doing it, Rain randomly moved out of his ramps right as Flash was attacking and got caught completely unprepared.
RIP GOMTV. RIP PROLEAGUE.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
January 10 2013 10:46 GMT
#832
On January 10 2013 19:43 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 19:38 FakeDeath wrote:
On January 10 2013 19:33 Type|NarutO wrote:
On January 10 2013 19:32 Wintex wrote:
On January 10 2013 19:27 Type|NarutO wrote:
Sorry to say to all NesTea fans, but NesTea is a terrible player if you talk about progamers. He has no progress at all in his match up, no variety. He has only his ling/bane/muta style which is actually exactly what a good Terran would want to face. If FantaSy would be not as sloppy as he was, he would have won easily.

I don't understand why NesTea doesn't switch up his game. He has great mechanics, but other than that.... I cannot understand his decision to go muta/ling/bane which is basically dead against a well playing Terran. The position where FantaSy lost everything could have already been game over if he did set up his tanks and marines in a correct way.

=.=;


He's fun to watch, does his thing, and still stays in GSL. Btw, consider a name change. That anime is horrible.


Consider thinking before posting. Might be not the reason I chose the nickname ! Also can't argue about taste.


Consider thinking before saying Nestea is a terrible player.
Considering how he dropped to Code B and still has the fighting spirit to come back for a 30 year old,
I say that is pretty impressive.

Also he is a X3 GSL Champion.

Frankly speaking,calling him terrible player is just bad from you.


Are you dumb? Watch him play. Every top foreign Zerg now is a better player and at least in ZvT more scary. Sorry to hurt your feelings with it, but I base what I write on his games, not because I dislike him. I acknowledge his fighting spirit and I'm not saying he is TERRIBLE as Starcraft 2 player, but in terms of being a full-time professional Korean, he is terrible. Thats how it is, even if its sad.

Maybe get your head out of his ass and watch the games. I don't rate players on their previous achievements.... they don't matter if you talk about current skill. NaDa in his prime of broodwar was unbelievable, owned so much and even though he was a better player overall in his future career, compared to others he wasn't just as good anymore. He had one last very intense and good OSL iirc, but well, wasnt enough.

Same with NesTea. He was a good player, maybe ahead of his opponents at his time but right now he's nothing but average. If you cannot agree with it, just don't but don't insult others nickname because their opinion hurt you. Thats ridiculous.

He got out of the hell known as code B on his first try.
Something people strave for months if not a year long that still no foreigner ever made (except open seasons).
He may not be as good as he used to be but please, he aint nearly as bad as you make him out to be.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
January 10 2013 10:46 GMT
#833
Lag so annoying.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
January 10 2013 10:46 GMT
#834
On January 10 2013 19:42 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 19:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On January 10 2013 19:35 Swisslink wrote:
On January 10 2013 19:28 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On January 10 2013 19:27 Type|NarutO wrote:
Sorry to say to all NesTea fans, but NesTea is a terrible player if you talk about progamers. He has no progress at all in his match up, no variety. He has only his ling/bane/muta style which is actually exactly what a good Terran would want to face. If FantaSy would be not as sloppy as he was, he would have won easily.

I don't understand why NesTea doesn't switch up his game. He has great mechanics, but other than that.... I cannot understand his decision to go muta/ling/bane which is basically dead against a well playing Terran. The position where FantaSy lost everything could have already been game over if he did set up his tanks and marines in a correct way.

=.=;


He's still used to winning championships off the back of bracket luck and players like Ensnare/TheWinD/Kyrix/InCa. I'm sorry, this might be a bit too harsh but he is the most overrated player in WoL and has been for over a year now. It just makes me sick to my stomach that true talent is almost never seen on camera and never talked about and never appreciated while players like NesTea are idolized all the time even though they're barely relevant anymore.


What? Overrated? He definitely WAS one of the best players, but his strengths just don't really matter any more at this stage of the game. He has always sucked against terran, that's kinda true and that might be the reason why he plays such a weird style, but he didn't do that well in the past because of luck (Wtf... Bracket Luck? you're kidding, right?).
Unfortunately he just plays horrible when it comes to Broodlord/Infestor and right now Zerg don't seem to have a chance to end a game without them :-P


Yes. He was one of the best players during late 2010-mid 2011. But everyone overrated the shit out of him for at least one year afterwards even when he fell off considerably.

As for bracket luck yes. If you seriously believe the old Code S seeding system was fine then I'm not sure what planet you live on. If it weren't so bad they would not have changed it. Not only that, I'm not sure if you realize but a big chunk of the people that NesTea beat have actually dropped out of GSL altogether in mid 2011 and were barely relevant at any point in time in terms of skill and results. Again, we're talking about players like Kyrix, TheWinD, FruitDealer (in 2011), TesteR (also in 2011), Ensnare, HongUn and InCa. Where are they now? Where were they in the beginning of 2012 at least? Right...

Again I'm not saying he's a bad player, and he deserved to be in Code S for the longest time but the fact remains that mindless fanbois love to overrate the hell out of him and make him out to be some sort of god when luck played in fact a big factor in his success. Notice how every time he butted against Mvp or MMA in 2011 he got demolished? Yeah.

Actually that's not quite what Naruto says. If you read it closely you notice Naruto says he is Nestea is good in the sense that he is mechanically good, but bad in that for some reason he refuses to make any progress in his play/strategies. Which to a degree is true, although I wouldn't personally put it in the same proportions that Naruto does.


I agree with NarutO in that NesTea is mechanically good. With this post I was just explaining my reasoning and trying to make these fanbois understand that I'm not intending to hurt them in the feelings but just stating the obvious truth and providing examples for why NesTea has been overrated and why luck played a factor in his success.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
January 10 2013 10:46 GMT
#835
anyone else getting lag post on here please http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?page=3&topicid=229020&kind=8&isdesc=

Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1105 Posts
January 10 2013 10:46 GMT
#836
On January 10 2013 19:46 teamamerica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 19:43 FakeDeath wrote:
On January 10 2013 19:42 Chandra wrote:
Oh my opponent made colossi? I'm just going to make a few vikings, pull all my scvs, amove and auto-win.


Well MVP invented that move.

Beat Rain twice in a single series in GSL Code S Semis using that build.


To be fair in the one game I remember him doing it, Rain randomly moved out of his ramps right as Flash was attacking and got caught completely unprepared.


He pulled it against PartinG as well.
Dirty Deeds...DONE DIRT CHEAP!!!
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
January 10 2013 10:46 GMT
#837
buffering
yo
cbRRRR
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany179 Posts
January 10 2013 10:47 GMT
#838
Stream down for me :x
twitch.tv/cbrofl
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
January 10 2013 10:47 GMT
#839
Four gate!!
Shaddar
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
675 Posts
January 10 2013 10:47 GMT
#840
Go finale!
Why is Check 6 afraid of Infinity Seven? Because Infinity Seven Team 8 Day [9]
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