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shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1104 Posts
January 10 2013 10:42 GMT
#801
The amount of buffering with this new player for GSL is completely unacceptable. I missed the big fight and this happens constantly.
Dirty Deeds...DONE DIRT CHEAP!!!
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4492 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 10:42:50
January 10 2013 10:42 GMT
#802
On January 10 2013 19:41 Dodgin wrote:
Why are Kespa players not named Fantasy Flash and Jaedong so terrible at up/down matches?

hah!, they're pretty bad too.


Well Fanta's up 1-0, so it's remains to be seen.
hi. big fan.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
January 10 2013 10:42 GMT
#803
On January 10 2013 19:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 19:35 Swisslink wrote:
On January 10 2013 19:28 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On January 10 2013 19:27 Type|NarutO wrote:
Sorry to say to all NesTea fans, but NesTea is a terrible player if you talk about progamers. He has no progress at all in his match up, no variety. He has only his ling/bane/muta style which is actually exactly what a good Terran would want to face. If FantaSy would be not as sloppy as he was, he would have won easily.

I don't understand why NesTea doesn't switch up his game. He has great mechanics, but other than that.... I cannot understand his decision to go muta/ling/bane which is basically dead against a well playing Terran. The position where FantaSy lost everything could have already been game over if he did set up his tanks and marines in a correct way.

=.=;


He's still used to winning championships off the back of bracket luck and players like Ensnare/TheWinD/Kyrix/InCa. I'm sorry, this might be a bit too harsh but he is the most overrated player in WoL and has been for over a year now. It just makes me sick to my stomach that true talent is almost never seen on camera and never talked about and never appreciated while players like NesTea are idolized all the time even though they're barely relevant anymore.


What? Overrated? He definitely WAS one of the best players, but his strengths just don't really matter any more at this stage of the game. He has always sucked against terran, that's kinda true and that might be the reason why he plays such a weird style, but he didn't do that well in the past because of luck (Wtf... Bracket Luck? you're kidding, right?).
Unfortunately he just plays horrible when it comes to Broodlord/Infestor and right now Zerg don't seem to have a chance to end a game without them :-P


Yes. He was one of the best players during late 2010-mid 2011. But everyone overrated the shit out of him for at least one year afterwards even when he fell off considerably.

As for bracket luck yes. If you seriously believe the old Code S seeding system was fine then I'm not sure what planet you live on. If it weren't so bad they would not have changed it. Not only that, I'm not sure if you realize but a big chunk of the people that NesTea beat have actually dropped out of GSL altogether in mid 2011 and were barely relevant at any point in time in terms of skill and results. Again, we're talking about players like Kyrix, TheWinD, FruitDealer (in 2011), TesteR (also in 2011), Ensnare, HongUn and InCa. Where are they now? Where were they in the beginning of 2012 at least? Right...

Again I'm not saying he's a bad player, and he deserved to be in Code S for the longest time but the fact remains that mindless fanbois love to overrate the hell out of him and make him out to be some sort of god when luck played in fact a big factor in his success. Notice how every time he butted against Mvp or MMA in 2011 he got demolished? Yeah.

Actually that's not quite what Naruto says. If you read it closely you notice Naruto says he is Nestea is good in the sense that he is mechanically good, but bad in that for some reason he refuses to make any progress in his play/strategies. Which to a degree is true, although I wouldn't personally put it in the same proportions that Naruto does.
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
January 10 2013 10:42 GMT
#804
On January 10 2013 19:41 Qwerty85 wrote:
What did Wolf mean by "lazy boy push"?


its an all in, when you get slightly ahead or the opponent doesnt tech storm, you can just pull your scvs, you dont need much micro if theres no storms thus lazy boy push
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
January 10 2013 10:42 GMT
#805
On January 10 2013 19:41 Dodgin wrote:
Why are Kespa players not named Fantasy Flash and Jaedong so terrible at up/down matches?

Because the other kespa players in the up and down suck?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51458 Posts
January 10 2013 10:42 GMT
#806

After oGs, SlayerS, Air Force Ace, MJ Team and TSL, another Korean team may be disbanded 'very soon'. Source As (Wiki)Prime just moved to a new house, it is probably (Wiki)NS HoSeo, though it could also be (Wiki)Dream Team Gaming.


This Thread
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X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
January 10 2013 10:43 GMT
#807
On January 10 2013 19:42 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 19:41 Dodgin wrote:
Why are Kespa players not named Fantasy Flash and Jaedong so terrible at up/down matches?

hah!, they're pretty bad too.


Well Fanta's up 1-0, so it's remains to be seen.


hes up 2-0
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 10:44:31
January 10 2013 10:43 GMT
#808
On January 10 2013 19:38 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 19:33 Type|NarutO wrote:
On January 10 2013 19:32 Wintex wrote:
On January 10 2013 19:27 Type|NarutO wrote:
Sorry to say to all NesTea fans, but NesTea is a terrible player if you talk about progamers. He has no progress at all in his match up, no variety. He has only his ling/bane/muta style which is actually exactly what a good Terran would want to face. If FantaSy would be not as sloppy as he was, he would have won easily.

I don't understand why NesTea doesn't switch up his game. He has great mechanics, but other than that.... I cannot understand his decision to go muta/ling/bane which is basically dead against a well playing Terran. The position where FantaSy lost everything could have already been game over if he did set up his tanks and marines in a correct way.

=.=;


He's fun to watch, does his thing, and still stays in GSL. Btw, consider a name change. That anime is horrible.


Consider thinking before posting. Might be not the reason I chose the nickname ! Also can't argue about taste.


Consider thinking before saying Nestea is a terrible player.
Considering how he dropped to Code B and still has the fighting spirit to come back for a 30 year old,
I say that is pretty impressive.

Also he is a X3 GSL Champion.

Frankly speaking,calling him terrible player is just bad from you.


Are you dumb? Watch him play. Every top foreign Zerg now is a better player and at least in ZvT more scary. Sorry to hurt your feelings with it, but I base what I write on his games, not because I dislike him. I acknowledge his fighting spirit and I'm not saying he is TERRIBLE as Starcraft 2 player, but in terms of being a full-time professional Korean, he is terrible. Thats how it is, even if its sad.

Maybe get your head out of his ass and watch the games. I don't rate players on their previous achievements.... they don't matter if you talk about current skill. NaDa in his prime of broodwar was unbelievable, owned so much and even though he was a better player overall in his future career, compared to others he wasn't just as good anymore. He had one last very intense and good OSL iirc, but well, wasnt enough.

Same with NesTea. He was a good player, maybe ahead of his opponents at his time but right now he's nothing but average. If you cannot agree with it, just don't but don't insult others nickname because their opinion hurt you. Thats ridiculous.

If you try to get as grasp of his strategical progress.. there is NONE. I can link you his GSL games from 2 years ago ZvT and from now. Only difference might be he is getting ultras occasionally now... other than that. Ling, Muta, Bane... always.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
January 10 2013 10:43 GMT
#809
inb4 HuK makes Code S and people attribute it all to PvP
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 10:43:23
January 10 2013 10:43 GMT
#810
On January 10 2013 19:42 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 19:41 Dodgin wrote:
Why are Kespa players not named Fantasy Flash and Jaedong so terrible at up/down matches?

hah!, they're pretty bad too.


Well Fanta's up 1-0, so it's remains to be seen.


He's up 2-0 I think.

JD and Flash went 3-2 in the second hardest group, not that bad.

Everyone else bombed out horribly.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
January 10 2013 10:43 GMT
#811
On January 10 2013 19:42 Chandra wrote:
Oh my opponent made colossi? I'm just going to make a few vikings, pull all my scvs, amove and auto-win.


Well MVP invented that move.

Beat Rain twice in a single series in GSL Code S Semis using that build.
Play your best
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
January 10 2013 10:43 GMT
#812
On January 10 2013 19:41 Laryleprakon wrote:
Flying really not that good lately.

This. His game vs HuK was kind of iffy, but I would say his PvT looked downright bad (compared to other top tier SC2 pros) against Center :S
Plat Support Main #believe
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 10 2013 10:43 GMT
#813
GSL S1 2013 Up & Down Matches Group E
finale (0-1) vs Huk (1-0)
Map: Whirlwind

0:00
finale spawns in the bottom left
Huk spawns in the top left
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FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4492 Posts
January 10 2013 10:43 GMT
#814
On January 10 2013 19:43 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 19:42 FataLe wrote:
On January 10 2013 19:41 Dodgin wrote:
Why are Kespa players not named Fantasy Flash and Jaedong so terrible at up/down matches?

hah!, they're pretty bad too.


Well Fanta's up 1-0, so it's remains to be seen.


hes up 2-0

Yup, misstype.
hi. big fan.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
January 10 2013 10:43 GMT
#815
Go go HuK!
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
January 10 2013 10:43 GMT
#816
So far, so good, only HuK fcked up my liquibet :D Now it's time for finale shining !
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
January 10 2013 10:43 GMT
#817
On January 10 2013 19:42 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 19:41 Qwerty85 wrote:
What did Wolf mean by "lazy boy push"?


its an all in, when you get slightly ahead or the opponent doesnt tech storm, you can just pull your scvs, you dont need much micro if theres no storms thus lazy boy push


An interesting saying. Never heard it before.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5588 Posts
January 10 2013 10:43 GMT
#818
On January 10 2013 19:41 Dodgin wrote:
Why are Kespa players not named Fantasy Flash and Jaedong so terrible at up/down matches?

I wonder if they don't take GSL seriously... It is notable that they did so much better in the OSL even though they hardly had any experience of sc2 back then.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4492 Posts
January 10 2013 10:44 GMT
#819
EG HuK Ladycall!
hi. big fan.
acidbean
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany287 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 10:44:58
January 10 2013 10:44 GMT
#820
EHQ is great ...

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