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decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 20:32:17
January 05 2013 20:30 GMT
#81
Should be a fairly easy and straightforward all kill for Flash.

Baffles my mind as to why people say his TvT is bad. It's like they don't even watch Starcraft, see that he has lost some TvT's and go "lol Flash's TvT sucks"

He has looked good in his TvT's. His TvT vs Ryung was one of the best matches of the year. He plays a style so unlike any other SC2 player.

14 cc rax gas into 3rd cc and mech? Of course he is going to lose some TvT's. The same thing happened in BW when he first implemented his style. But if you watch his mech game against TheSTC at MLG, it was beautiful and near flawless play.

His series against Last in the OSL was very good as well.

I just get tired of so many people, and not just with Flash but with the whole scene, spew shit without watching games or analyzing play. They call Major overrated, yet he displays better and more solid play than any other foreign Terran.

They herald Grubby as a top foreigner, when his series vs Sting was painful to watch. Ditto with Scarlett, who played very poor series vs Bomber and Ryung.

Analyzing games and gameplay > results.

Tim Tebow had the highest QB rating in the 4th qtr by a mile last year, and he was cut in the off season because he looked horrible, they didn't care about his results.
"Be formless like water"- Bruce Lee
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 05 2013 20:31 GMT
#82
On January 06 2013 04:53 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 04:46 Frankon wrote:
The most logical choice for EGTL for second player would be Puma or Thorzain (since Flash TvT is rather lacking). The chances of Jeadong playing are rather slim... His non ZvZ matchups suck to much.
Still EGTL should have this - winner league format heavily favors them.


He has to get passed Revival first. Why PuMa or ThorZain when you can just send TaeJa? He's a much more formidable opponent TvT wise. You're trying to beat the spread. EG and TL need to start going for the jugular. It's not just about winning anymore you need to bring that plus up.

Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 04:52 blade55555 wrote:
On January 06 2013 00:42 poorcloud wrote:
People udnerestimaing flash here.

Flash will stomp revival. He is already able to go toe-to-toe with players like Life and other top code-S players.


I feel people are underestimating revival and over estimating flash just a tad . I think the match will be closer then people think.


I'd say people are overestimating Flash, Fantasy and Jaedong.



Well idk how people are overestimating jaedong when most comments I see are of them saying he's not very good xD.

But I was more picking out flash because people are saying he's going to AK np and seem to think he's best player in the world when he's not close to that level (at least as of now imo).
When I think of something else, something will go here
T.O.P
Profile Joined December 2012
469 Posts
January 05 2013 20:35 GMT
#83
Go FlaSh!!!
I'm not the real T.O.P just a fan!
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
January 05 2013 20:37 GMT
#84
Revival please take 3 wins in a row and then Wookie reverse all-kill for my FPL. Thank you.
nmetasch
Profile Joined April 2012
United States600 Posts
January 05 2013 20:42 GMT
#85
On January 06 2013 05:30 decado90 wrote:
Should be a fairly easy and straightforward all kill for Flash.

Baffles my mind as to why people say his TvT is bad. It's like they don't even watch Starcraft, see that he has lost some TvT's and go "lol Flash's TvT sucks"

He has looked good in his TvT's. His TvT vs Ryung was one of the best matches of the year. He plays a style so unlike any other SC2 player.

14 cc rax gas into 3rd cc and mech? Of course he is going to lose some TvT's. The same thing happened in BW when he first implemented his style. But if you watch his mech game against TheSTC at MLG, it was beautiful and near flawless play.

His series against Last in the OSL was very good as well.

I just get tired of so many people, and not just with Flash but with the whole scene, spew shit without watching games or analyzing play. They call Major overrated, yet he displays better and more solid play than any other foreign Terran.

They herald Grubby as a top foreigner, when his series vs Sting was painful to watch. Ditto with Scarlett, who played very poor series vs Bomber and Ryung.

Analyzing games and gameplay > results.

Tim Tebow had the highest QB rating in the 4th qtr by a mile last year, and he was cut in the off season because he looked horrible, they didn't care about his results.


AKA Flash fanboy who hates people who have other opinions.
nmetasch
Profile Joined April 2012
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 20:44:13
January 05 2013 20:43 GMT
#86
On January 06 2013 05:31 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 04:53 StarStruck wrote:
On January 06 2013 04:46 Frankon wrote:
The most logical choice for EGTL for second player would be Puma or Thorzain (since Flash TvT is rather lacking). The chances of Jeadong playing are rather slim... His non ZvZ matchups suck to much.
Still EGTL should have this - winner league format heavily favors them.


He has to get passed Revival first. Why PuMa or ThorZain when you can just send TaeJa? He's a much more formidable opponent TvT wise. You're trying to beat the spread. EG and TL need to start going for the jugular. It's not just about winning anymore you need to bring that plus up.

On January 06 2013 04:52 blade55555 wrote:
On January 06 2013 00:42 poorcloud wrote:
People udnerestimaing flash here.

Flash will stomp revival. He is already able to go toe-to-toe with players like Life and other top code-S players.


I feel people are underestimating revival and over estimating flash just a tad . I think the match will be closer then people think.


I'd say people are overestimating Flash, Fantasy and Jaedong.



Well idk how people are overestimating jaedong when most comments I see are of them saying he's not very good xD.

But I was more picking out flash because people are saying he's going to AK np and seem to think he's best player in the world when he's not close to that level (at least as of now imo).


This guy said it perfectly... Flash isn't anything special yet...If he were, hed be more than 62.5% win ratio in round 1.

I'm not saying he doesn't have the work ethic or know how to become the best, but he needs more time, hes far from it now.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 20:50:36
January 05 2013 20:46 GMT
#87
Flash AK? No.. His TvT is weak, very susceptible to snipes. Taeja seems like a stronger terran all-around to me.

This is gonna depend on KT zergs so who knows, hope they can pull through.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
January 05 2013 20:46 GMT
#88
Loved the image of the texas shootem EGTL hhahahhaa
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
January 05 2013 20:52 GMT
#89
Inb4 Flash all-kill
rly ?
never_Nal
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica676 Posts
January 05 2013 20:56 GMT
#90
My Gawd my 2 favorite teams right now this is going to be epic starcraft :D love this
Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
January 05 2013 20:59 GMT
#91
Revival totake out 3 players and lose to stats they'll send out jyp and top it offwith taeja if need be
troi oi thang map nai!!!
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 21:02:58
January 05 2013 21:01 GMT
#92
On January 06 2013 05:30 decado90 wrote:
Should be a fairly easy and straightforward all kill for Flash.

Baffles my mind as to why people say his TvT is bad. It's like they don't even watch Starcraft, see that he has lost some TvT's and go "lol Flash's TvT sucks"

He has looked good in his TvT's. His TvT vs Ryung was one of the best matches of the year. He plays a style so unlike any other SC2 player.

14 cc rax gas into 3rd cc and mech? Of course he is going to lose some TvT's. The same thing happened in BW when he first implemented his style. But if you watch his mech game against TheSTC at MLG, it was beautiful and near flawless play.

His series against Last in the OSL was very good as well.

I just get tired of so many people, and not just with Flash but with the whole scene, spew shit without watching games or analyzing play. They call Major overrated, yet he displays better and more solid play than any other foreign Terran.

They herald Grubby as a top foreigner, when his series vs Sting was painful to watch. Ditto with Scarlett, who played very poor series vs Bomber and Ryung.

Analyzing games and gameplay > results.

Tim Tebow had the highest QB rating in the 4th qtr by a mile last year, and he was cut in the off season because he looked horrible, they didn't care about his results.

A few points:

-Flash's data set for TvT is simply too small to draw any conclusions. Sure, he lost two semi recent series in TvT, but he's only played a TOTAL of 19 official TvT matches. Kind of hard to say anything without him playing some more games.
-Grubby is a top foreigner, and played a close series against Sting. How Sting wins when he gets supply blocked so often baffles me, but that's for another day. Scarlett also won a war of attrition against Bomber despite mishotkeying lings in G1 if we're talking about MLG. I don't recall the IPL games or if they even played, and even so, I have no idea what your point is.
-Your Tebow example is, quite frankly, a terrible one. He was traded after 2011 not simply because of his play.

EDIT: My take on the matter is that from what little we've seen of Flash, he's a very good SC2 player. He is not great, but he's mechanically fantastic so he's very hard to beat. He may be in league with the likes of TaeJa one day, but I don't think he's there yet.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 05 2013 21:03 GMT
#93
People underestimating the dude with a 10 game SC2 win streak.
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derpface
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden925 Posts
January 05 2013 21:05 GMT
#94
Flash is gonna beat revivial and then hero.

After that IdrA is gonna be sent out and own faces.
gg no re #_< no1 Hydra and Leta fan >_#
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
January 05 2013 21:06 GMT
#95
On January 06 2013 00:21 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 00:06 DJHelium wrote:
Amazing picture!

Think EGTL is heavily favored in this kind of format. They would have a fair shot using Taeja only, and Revival, JYP, Jaedong and Hero are all capable of scoring multiple kills.

4-2 EGTL, just because Taeja comes out third. But it's really a guessing game.

*edit* assuming Stephano isn't there yet, otherwise add him to the list^^

Why do you think TaeJa would come out third?
Flash is supposedly weak in TvT and the only T in EGTL capable of taking him down is TaeJa, so they are likely to send him ASAP if Revival loses.


You seem to think the chance to have JD vs Flash wouldn't generate hype appeal.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 05 2013 21:07 GMT
#96
On January 06 2013 06:03 Fionn wrote:
People underestimating the dude with a 10 game SC2 win streak.

Stats is the ace now. That's why they sent out Flash first
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rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
January 05 2013 21:08 GMT
#97
That's right people. FEAR THE CHIN.
The Notorious Winkles
crashonly
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland418 Posts
January 05 2013 21:09 GMT
#98
Yess KT vs EG-TL going to be awesome!

On January 06 2013 00:18 Arceus wrote:
btw I guess no one reads Lucky Luke


Lucky Luke is awesome It's been several years since I last read any, though, so I don't really "get" the picture either. Assuming there is some joke besides it just being a funny lucky luke -themed pic.


jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
January 05 2013 21:12 GMT
#99
Flash, stats, wookie can handle anything egtl has
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Ambre
Profile Joined July 2011
France416 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 21:16:09
January 05 2013 21:12 GMT
#100
Hi,

The only players we know are the first one ? I presume other players are going to play, right ? Do we know if Stephano can play ?

E/ Also, can I watch the VODS if I suscribed the 5$ thing ?
"There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self." - Aldous Huxley
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