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On December 29 2012 20:32 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 20:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:
you guys do know that Fantasy and Flash have had their first encounter in SC2 right, there is no way to tell who is really better between the two in SC2.
on the other hand there is no denying the by the end of BW, fantasy was far far better. Fantasy was ALWAYS better at micro and winning small scale battles, Flash always relied on his over-all game plan and trying to get ahead by making ridiculously risky plays. It was true in the MSL semis and it's true when he lost 0-3. SC2 is almost entirely dependent on winning the clutch small scale battles because your entire army is in alot less places now, I don't see Flash's play style which depends on a steady methodical time frame transferring nearly as well as fantasy's play style :/. You can apply the same logic to Bisu, the tempo of his multitasking in BW was almost perfect, put that in SC2 and it doesn't even matter because the tempo is completely off.
I believe that the biggest asset of Flash is his adaptation skill. He is like a borg mothership that assimilates everything and makes it part of itself. Don't forget he used to be called cheddar terran for his cheese and unorthodox micro intensive plays, i think he will be just fine in SC2 too. He is just awaking, wait till he rubs his eyes properly.
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why do you put rain last when he doesnt even get to play. hes like one of their best.
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Too bad we didn't get to see no Rain!
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On December 29 2012 17:22 Otolia wrote:
How could KT just win with that line-up ?! Those guys are plainly terrible individually, concretely unable to win any Bo3 (aside from Flash) but for some magical reason they are now 5-1 (if you include the walk-over they got from playing EG-TL without HerO and TaeJa). The most retarded thing in this is that all the KT fan-boys who took a leap of faith at the beginning of FPL will think they are geniuses.
You're being a disrespectful prick to the players, plainly terrible players dont individually win a bo1.
Also, someone has inferiority complexes at people who just choose players they like for their FPL team? A few season back a pure SKT1 team won, why not KT this time?
TO everyone else: So happy to see KT win over SKT with only flash loosing, a fucking beautiful "shut up" to the KTFlash sayers <3
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On December 30 2012 01:23 aintz wrote:
why do you put rain last when he doesnt even get to play. hes like one of their best.
I think it works like this:
The team gets a glimpse at the upcoming mappool and submits their players for each map (excluding ace map). After this is done, the order of maps and player pairings are announced. So they couldn't know that Rain would play so late.
At least that is how I think it works.
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On December 30 2012 01:30 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2012 17:22 Otolia wrote:
How could KT just win with that line-up ?! Those guys are plainly terrible individually, concretely unable to win any Bo3 (aside from Flash) but for some magical reason they are now 5-1 (if you include the walk-over they got from playing EG-TL without HerO and TaeJa). The most retarded thing in this is that all the KT fan-boys who took a leap of faith at the beginning of FPL will think they are geniuses.
You're being a disrespectful prick to the players, plainly terrible players dont individually win a bo1. Also, someone has inferiority complexes at people who just choose players they like for their FPL team? A few season back a pure SKT1 team won, why not KT this time? TO everyone else: So happy to see KT win over SKT with only flash loosing, a fucking beautiful "shut up" to the KTFlash sayers <3
Stats/Action/CH are all really good players... I dunno why everyone is ragging on them :T
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On December 30 2012 01:36 ACrow wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2012 01:23 aintz wrote:
why do you put rain last when he doesnt even get to play. hes like one of their best. I think it works like this: The team gets a glimpse at the upcoming mappool and submits their players for each map (excluding ace map). After this is done, the order of maps and player pairings are announced. So they couldn't know that Rain would play so late. At least that is how I think it works.
hahaha no, the teams know the order of the maps
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On December 30 2012 01:49 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2012 01:36 ACrow wrote:On December 30 2012 01:23 aintz wrote:
why do you put rain last when he doesnt even get to play. hes like one of their best. I think it works like this: The team gets a glimpse at the upcoming mappool and submits their players for each map (excluding ace map). After this is done, the order of maps and player pairings are announced. So they couldn't know that Rain would play so late. At least that is how I think it works. hahaha no, the teams know the order of the maps
Ok, thanks for clarifying. I don't know why you're laughing, though.
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xpaperclip im lovin the op, nice new layout ^^
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On December 30 2012 01:23 aintz wrote:
why do you put rain last when he doesnt even get to play. hes like one of their best.
Because at the end of the day, it is not a big deal since you need to win 3 out of the first 6 to force an Ace match. Of course, there are factors like momentum but there are also factors like players being more clutch in late situations. I think they mainly look at the maps and matchups.
Of course, there is the map differential but in a 6 round season, I am not sure if that will even come into play.
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On December 30 2012 02:01 ACrow wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2012 01:49 sharkie wrote:On December 30 2012 01:36 ACrow wrote:On December 30 2012 01:23 aintz wrote:
why do you put rain last when he doesnt even get to play. hes like one of their best. I think it works like this: The team gets a glimpse at the upcoming mappool and submits their players for each map (excluding ace map). After this is done, the order of maps and player pairings are announced. So they couldn't know that Rain would play so late. At least that is how I think it works. hahaha no, the teams know the order of the maps Ok, thanks for clarifying. I don't know why you're laughing, though.
I am laughing about how twisted someone could think! :p
Not knowing the order of maps and still forcing teams to submit their entries would be very very evil imo!
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On December 30 2012 01:38 synapse wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2012 01:30 Iplaythings wrote:On December 29 2012 17:22 Otolia wrote:
How could KT just win with that line-up ?! Those guys are plainly terrible individually, concretely unable to win any Bo3 (aside from Flash) but for some magical reason they are now 5-1 (if you include the walk-over they got from playing EG-TL without HerO and TaeJa). The most retarded thing in this is that all the KT fan-boys who took a leap of faith at the beginning of FPL will think they are geniuses.
You're being a disrespectful prick to the players, plainly terrible players dont individually win a bo1. Also, someone has inferiority complexes at people who just choose players they like for their FPL team? A few season back a pure SKT1 team won, why not KT this time? TO everyone else: So happy to see KT win over SKT with only flash loosing, a fucking beautiful "shut up" to the KTFlash sayers <3 Stats/Action/CH are all really good players... I dunno why everyone is ragging on them :T
Action getting flack is understandable atleast, but CH and statstore shit up in the last seasons..
god, the most frustrating thing is the "lol jk" post he made, no idea why that agitates me, it just gets on my nerves
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Glad to see the rivalry continuing! Im excited for more epic matchups of Fanta and Flash.
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On December 30 2012 02:25 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2012 01:38 synapse wrote:On December 30 2012 01:30 Iplaythings wrote:On December 29 2012 17:22 Otolia wrote:
How could KT just win with that line-up ?! Those guys are plainly terrible individually, concretely unable to win any Bo3 (aside from Flash) but for some magical reason they are now 5-1 (if you include the walk-over they got from playing EG-TL without HerO and TaeJa). The most retarded thing in this is that all the KT fan-boys who took a leap of faith at the beginning of FPL will think they are geniuses.
You're being a disrespectful prick to the players, plainly terrible players dont individually win a bo1. Also, someone has inferiority complexes at people who just choose players they like for their FPL team? A few season back a pure SKT1 team won, why not KT this time? TO everyone else: So happy to see KT win over SKT with only flash loosing, a fucking beautiful "shut up" to the KTFlash sayers <3 Stats/Action/CH are all really good players... I dunno why everyone is ragging on them :T Action getting flack is understandable atleast, but CH and statstore shit up in the last seasons.. god, the most frustrating thing is the "lol jk" post he made, no idea why that agitates me, it just gets on my nerves
Can't forget wooki  he's doing awesome as well
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On December 30 2012 02:20 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2012 01:23 aintz wrote:
why do you put rain last when he doesnt even get to play. hes like one of their best. Because at the end of the day, it is not a big deal since you need to win 3 out of the first 6 to force an Ace match. Of course, there are factors like momentum but there are also factors like players being more clutch in late situations. I think they mainly look at the maps and matchups. Of course, there is the map differential but in a 6 round season, I am not sure if that will even come into play.
Doesn't matter for the overall game result, but it definitely matters for my FPL team 
If we had lost 4-2 with Rain and Fantasy winning, I'd be a lot better off lol
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Props to KT on this one they had some really good mindgame builds and outplayed T1. Looking forward to having round 2 in Winners League with Rain hopefully kick some ass.
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On December 30 2012 01:38 synapse wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2012 01:30 Iplaythings wrote:On December 29 2012 17:22 Otolia wrote:
How could KT just win with that line-up ?! Those guys are plainly terrible individually, concretely unable to win any Bo3 (aside from Flash) but for some magical reason they are now 5-1 (if you include the walk-over they got from playing EG-TL without HerO and TaeJa). The most retarded thing in this is that all the KT fan-boys who took a leap of faith at the beginning of FPL will think they are geniuses.
You're being a disrespectful prick to the players, plainly terrible players dont individually win a bo1. Also, someone has inferiority complexes at people who just choose players they like for their FPL team? A few season back a pure SKT1 team won, why not KT this time? TO everyone else: So happy to see KT win over SKT with only flash loosing, a fucking beautiful "shut up" to the KTFlash sayers <3 Stats/Action/CH are all really good players... I dunno why everyone is ragging on them :T
"Everybody" being two SKT1 fanboys.
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On December 30 2012 03:25 LightSpectra wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2012 01:38 synapse wrote:On December 30 2012 01:30 Iplaythings wrote:On December 29 2012 17:22 Otolia wrote:
How could KT just win with that line-up ?! Those guys are plainly terrible individually, concretely unable to win any Bo3 (aside from Flash) but for some magical reason they are now 5-1 (if you include the walk-over they got from playing EG-TL without HerO and TaeJa). The most retarded thing in this is that all the KT fan-boys who took a leap of faith at the beginning of FPL will think they are geniuses.
You're being a disrespectful prick to the players, plainly terrible players dont individually win a bo1. Also, someone has inferiority complexes at people who just choose players they like for their FPL team? A few season back a pure SKT1 team won, why not KT this time? TO everyone else: So happy to see KT win over SKT with only flash loosing, a fucking beautiful "shut up" to the KTFlash sayers <3 Stats/Action/CH are all really good players... I dunno why everyone is ragging on them :T "Everybody" being two SKT1 fanboys.
You'd be suprised, it goes way back to BW only PL where people would underrate the fuck out of them for some reason..
Atleast action had some pretty bad fails
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On December 29 2012 00:39 corumjhaelen wrote:
Just posting for old times' sake (I miss this rivalry). KT winning with Flash losing.
Too easy ~~
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Fantasy vs. Flash was pretty good, but I think this series was just KT out-preparing SKT.
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