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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
December 29 2012 10:49 GMT
#1181
Just saw it on eSportsTV....

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! T_T
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
December 29 2012 11:00 GMT
#1182
you guys do know that Fantasy and Flash have had their first encounter in SC2 right, there is no way to tell who is really better between the two in SC2.

on the other hand there is no denying the by the end of BW, fantasy was far far better.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2262 Posts
December 29 2012 11:08 GMT
#1183
On December 29 2012 20:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:
you guys do know that Fantasy and Flash have had their first encounter in SC2 right, there is no way to tell who is really better between the two in SC2.

on the other hand there is no denying the by the end of BW, fantasy was far far better.


It was just Fantasy getting better and Flash losing some of his form at the same moment. Fanta vs Flash, both in best shape, one against each other would be still a great Bo5 (with Flash having upper hand)
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 11:33:27
December 29 2012 11:32 GMT
#1184
On December 29 2012 20:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:
you guys do know that Fantasy and Flash have had their first encounter in SC2 right, there is no way to tell who is really better between the two in SC2.

on the other hand there is no denying the by the end of BW, fantasy was far far better.


Fantasy was ALWAYS better at micro and winning small scale battles, Flash always relied on his over-all game plan and trying to get ahead by making ridiculously risky plays. It was true in the MSL semis and it's true when he lost 0-3. SC2 is almost entirely dependent on winning the clutch small scale battles because your entire army is in alot less places now, I don't see Flash's play style which depends on a steady methodical time frame transferring nearly as well as fantasy's play style :/. You can apply the same logic to Bisu, the tempo of his multitasking in BW was almost perfect, put that in SC2 and it doesn't even matter because the tempo is completely off.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1238 Posts
December 29 2012 12:36 GMT
#1185
On December 29 2012 18:16 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 18:12 sharkie wrote:
Fantasy > Flash the entire year and they still call him god lol.

Flash hasn't been god since his OSL losses.


You get called god when you become the best Brood War player ever. You don't get called god when you become the become the first player to ever lose back to back finals twice.


gg
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece827 Posts
December 29 2012 13:05 GMT
#1186
On December 27 2012 22:21 The_Templar wrote:
KT will win 4-1, and Flash will lose.
If SKT makes it to game 6 they will probably win, however.

lol!
Neski
Profile Joined October 2012
17 Posts
December 29 2012 13:08 GMT
#1187
KT is the superior KT.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 29 2012 13:27 GMT
#1188
On December 27 2012 22:21 The_Templar wrote:
KT will win 4-1, and Flash will lose.
If SKT makes it to game 6 they will probably win, however.

I win. :D
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mRpolite
Profile Joined March 2012
189 Posts
December 29 2012 13:29 GMT
#1189
fantasy still has his number
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
December 29 2012 13:37 GMT
#1190
On December 29 2012 17:25 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 17:22 Otolia wrote:
How could KT just win with that line-up ?! Those guys are plainly terrible individually, concretely unable to win any Bo3 (aside from Flash) but for some magical reason they are now 5-1 (if you include the walk-over they got from playing EG-TL without HerO and TaeJa). The most retarded thing in this is that all the KT fan-boys who took a leap of faith at the beginning of FPL will think they are geniuses.


1) Welcome to team leagues. Wow.
2) How many Bo3's have you seen the KT players aside from Flash play, exactly?
3) Calm down.


On December 29 2012 17:29 NicksonReyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 17:22 Otolia wrote:
How could KT just win with that line-up ?! Those guys are plainly terrible individually, concretely unable to win any Bo3 (aside from Flash) but for some magical reason they are now 5-1 (if you include the walk-over they got from playing EG-TL without HerO and TaeJa). The most retarded thing in this is that all the KT fan-boys who took a leap of faith at the beginning of FPL will think they are geniuses.

Rofl. I have an all-in KT fpl team but it's not about "taking a leap of faith" but about wanting to cheer for them more and trusting them to put out good results. It's up to you whether to believe "some magical reason" or the fact that they simply can win more.


Hello fine folks, since you are way too serious about this, allow me to explain myself : This isn't a serious post, I'm just a jealous person bitching around ><' Since you look surprised (and have more than 2k posts on TL) I think you are fairly new to the LR in this part of the forum, that's usually how I post when something really surprise me. KT had none of its player qualified to the last 2 GSL, nor did they qualify for OSL. They were literally unknown.
That being said, there is nothing wrong with being a fanboy as long as you can admit you are biased. Had you read my post in the FPL thread, you would have known that I choose my team based on people I would support in the future.

Enjoy the rest of PL
4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
December 29 2012 13:42 GMT
#1191
people (flash et al) need to stop losing ravens llike that -.-
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
December 29 2012 13:47 GMT
#1192
Well, your post wasn't funny so I assumed it's serious, and you must be new to PL if you think players that perform well in the Proleague can't not suck at individual leagues.
KT had none of its player qualified to the last 2 GSL, nor did they qualify for OSL. They were literally unknown.

I mean, with that thinking, you must think Sea and Bisu were literally unknown back then.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 29 2012 14:03 GMT
#1193
On December 29 2012 20:32 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 20:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:
you guys do know that Fantasy and Flash have had their first encounter in SC2 right, there is no way to tell who is really better between the two in SC2.

on the other hand there is no denying the by the end of BW, fantasy was far far better.


Fantasy was ALWAYS better at micro and winning small scale battles, Flash always relied on his over-all game plan and trying to get ahead by making ridiculously risky plays. It was true in the MSL semis and it's true when he lost 0-3. SC2 is almost entirely dependent on winning the clutch small scale battles because your entire army is in alot less places now, I don't see Flash's play style which depends on a steady methodical time frame transferring nearly as well as fantasy's play style :/. You can apply the same logic to Bisu, the tempo of his multitasking in BW was almost perfect, put that in SC2 and it doesn't even matter because the tempo is completely off.


Hello Mvp vs MKP... Obviously, they are different players compare to Flash and Fantasy. But it shows that slightly superior micro might not always win vs better overall game plan in SC2.
catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
December 29 2012 14:14 GMT
#1194
On December 29 2012 20:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:
you guys do know that Fantasy and Flash have had their first encounter in SC2 right, there is no way to tell who is really better between the two in SC2.

on the other hand there is no denying the by the end of BW, fantasy was far far better.


Exactly. Fantasy has a small advantage now.

I think we all remember that unbelievable 5 game MSL series where Flash won 3-2. Best TvT series of all-time in Broodwar. And then Fantasy coming back in the last OSL and 3-0 Flash with a "new" no dropship style play.
Jung! Myung! Hoooooooooooooooooon! #TeamPolt
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 14:51:29
December 29 2012 14:49 GMT
#1195
Flash did beat fantasy 5 times in one day when all their WCG/MSL/Proleague games lined up.
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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
December 29 2012 15:00 GMT
#1196
On December 29 2012 22:47 NicksonReyes wrote:
Well, your post wasn't funny so I assumed it's serious, and you must be new to PL if you think players that perform well in the Proleague can't not suck at individual leagues.
Show nested quote +
KT had none of its player qualified to the last 2 GSL, nor did they qualify for OSL. They were literally unknown.

I mean, with that thinking, you must think Sea and Bisu were literally unknown back then.

Yes I am indeed new to PL. As I was never interested in BW, and I wouldn't endorse the hunchback monster that was hybrid PL.

Sea didn't have any Bo3 prior to his recruitment and the hype around him was mostly due to him switching to TL. As for Bisu, he did play a few SC 2 matches and didn't strike me as being ace material. Let's say I may have underestimate the impact of having a good team spirit and environment for something as volatile as Bo1 non-KotH style.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 29 2012 15:18 GMT
#1197
On December 30 2012 00:00 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 22:47 NicksonReyes wrote:
Well, your post wasn't funny so I assumed it's serious, and you must be new to PL if you think players that perform well in the Proleague can't not suck at individual leagues.
KT had none of its player qualified to the last 2 GSL, nor did they qualify for OSL. They were literally unknown.

I mean, with that thinking, you must think Sea and Bisu were literally unknown back then.

Yes I am indeed new to PL. As I was never interested in BW, and I wouldn't endorse the hunchback monster that was hybrid PL.

Sea didn't have any Bo3 prior to his recruitment and the hype around him was mostly due to him switching to TL. As for Bisu, he did play a few SC 2 matches and didn't strike me as being ace material. Let's say I may have underestimate the impact of having a good team spirit and environment for something as volatile as Bo1 non-KotH style.


I think he is referring to BW Sea and Bisu. They were both monsters in PL but Sea didn't do well in individual leagues and Bisu in OSL qualifying.

And I think same is true for SC2 as well. Some players just perform better in team leagues. Think of players like Yonghwa.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 29 2012 15:28 GMT
#1198
DON'T CARE

MY BOI BEAT FLASH

GG.
WriterXiao8~~
Solarsail
Profile Joined July 2012
United Kingdom538 Posts
December 29 2012 15:33 GMT
#1199
On December 29 2012 14:39 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 14:38 Solarsail wrote:
I need KT to win but Flash to lose to have any shot at winning FPL.

...not happening.


awkward position there.


Happened.
Everyone left over is a member of the OP race and you have to figure out which one of them is the least OP. - CosmicSpiral
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
December 29 2012 16:10 GMT
#1200
On December 29 2012 20:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:
you guys do know that Fantasy and Flash have had their first encounter in SC2 right, there is no way to tell who is really better between the two in SC2.

on the other hand there is no denying the by the end of BW, fantasy was far far better.

Yeah and both were manhandled by Jangbi during that period. Does it mean anything now? Fantasy won the first battle. The real war is yet to start though...
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