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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 29 2012 09:16 GMT
#1161
On December 29 2012 18:12 sharkie wrote:
Fantasy > Flash the entire year and they still call him god lol.

Flash hasn't been god since his OSL losses.


You get called god when you become the best Brood War player ever. You don't get called god when you become the become the first player to ever lose back to back finals twice.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 29 2012 09:21 GMT
#1162
On December 29 2012 18:13 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 18:09 tuho12345 wrote:
Flash lost that game b/c of his fault. He sieged up at a weird position which didn't kill much, he could have gone for the factory and starport but he didn't. Low supply mech sucks and he moved out way too early. He could have won but he made too many mistakes tho.


His move out was fine. It was just unfortunate that he attacked just as Fantasy's army was moving around his.


Even if Fantasy didn't move out, what could Flash accomplish? Unless Fantasy had all his bio in front of his tanks to get BF to death, the most Flash could have done was a light contain. And Fantasy would have just dropped Flash to death/cut off reinforcements. Flash was only on 2 base and didn't have to eco to turret up his bases.
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
December 29 2012 09:21 GMT
#1163
On December 29 2012 18:16 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 18:12 sharkie wrote:
Fantasy > Flash the entire year and they still call him god lol.

Flash hasn't been god since his OSL losses.


You get called god when you become the best Brood War player ever. You don't get called god when you become the become the first player to ever lose back to back finals twice.


Touche, dude, touche. I just can't stop laughing hahahaha, and I'm not even a KT fan or an anti-SKT.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
December 29 2012 09:23 GMT
#1164
On December 29 2012 17:22 Otolia wrote:
How could KT just win with that line-up ?! Those guys are plainly terrible individually, concretely unable to win any Bo3 (aside from Flash) but for some magical reason they are now 5-1 (if you include the walk-over they got from playing EG-TL without HerO and TaeJa). The most retarded thing in this is that all the KT fan-boys who took a leap of faith at the beginning of FPL will think they are geniuses.


Please tell me this is a joke.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 29 2012 09:24 GMT
#1165
On December 29 2012 18:21 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 18:13 GolemMadness wrote:
On December 29 2012 18:09 tuho12345 wrote:
Flash lost that game b/c of his fault. He sieged up at a weird position which didn't kill much, he could have gone for the factory and starport but he didn't. Low supply mech sucks and he moved out way too early. He could have won but he made too many mistakes tho.


His move out was fine. It was just unfortunate that he attacked just as Fantasy's army was moving around his.


Even if Fantasy didn't move out, what could Flash accomplish? Unless Fantasy had all his bio in front of his tanks to get BF to death, the most Flash could have done was a light contain. And Fantasy would have just dropped Flash to death/cut off reinforcements. Flash was only on 2 base and didn't have to eco to turret up his bases.


He could have taken on Fantasy's army in a straight up fight. At the very least, he could kill all of the depots walling off Fantasy's front. Fantasy's siege was still around a minute away, so it was the correct time to move out.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
December 29 2012 09:25 GMT
#1166
On December 29 2012 18:16 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 18:12 sharkie wrote:
Fantasy > Flash the entire year and they still call him god lol.

Flash hasn't been god since his OSL losses.


You get called god when you become the best Brood War player ever. You don't get called god when you become the become the first player to ever lose back to back finals twice.

You mean the finals that Flash failed to get to repeatedly since 2011?

(dude, "first player to lose back to back finals twice" is a hilariously bad insult, not only do you shit on the effort that he made to get there, it's also a really dumb thing to even bother tracking)
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 09:29:35
December 29 2012 09:28 GMT
#1167
On December 29 2012 18:25 scrubtastic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 18:16 GolemMadness wrote:
On December 29 2012 18:12 sharkie wrote:
Fantasy > Flash the entire year and they still call him god lol.

Flash hasn't been god since his OSL losses.


You get called god when you become the best Brood War player ever. You don't get called god when you become the become the first player to ever lose back to back finals twice.

You mean the finals that Flash failed to get to repeatedly since 2011?

(dude, "first player to lose back to back finals twice" is a hilariously bad insult, not only do you shit on the effort that he made to get there, it's also a really dumb thing to even bother tracking)

Flash was struggling with a significant arm injury all throughout 2011, he still won an MSL. Post 2011 has been a chaotic time for pro-gaming, I don't think his lack of results is that damning.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18763 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 09:33:35
December 29 2012 09:33 GMT
#1168
On December 29 2012 18:16 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 18:12 sharkie wrote:
Fantasy > Flash the entire year and they still call him god lol.

Flash hasn't been god since his OSL losses.


You get called god when you become the best Brood War player ever. You don't get called god when you become the become the first player to ever lose back to back finals twice.


Yes all that proves is that fantasy has a problem with nerves.
Skill-wise he is above Flash, has been the entire year in both BW and SC2
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
December 29 2012 09:35 GMT
#1169
I don't really care, KT beat SKT again WOOOOOOOOOOO~
"Start yo" -FlaSh
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 29 2012 09:39 GMT
#1170
On December 29 2012 18:25 scrubtastic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 18:16 GolemMadness wrote:
On December 29 2012 18:12 sharkie wrote:
Fantasy > Flash the entire year and they still call him god lol.

Flash hasn't been god since his OSL losses.


You get called god when you become the best Brood War player ever. You don't get called god when you become the become the first player to ever lose back to back finals twice.

You mean the finals that Flash failed to get to repeatedly since 2011?

(dude, "first player to lose back to back finals twice" is a hilariously bad insult, not only do you shit on the effort that he made to get there, it's also a really dumb thing to even bother tracking)


Repeatedly? You mean the only two Starleagues there were after he won his 3rd MSL, one of which was was right before he had his surgery?

It's not an insult. Obviously Fantasy was and is a very good player, but he clearly is not close to on par with Flash in terms of achievements. Sharkie just has some obsession with hating on Flash all the time, so I'm telling him why Flash is called god and Fantasy isn't.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 29 2012 09:45 GMT
#1171
On December 29 2012 18:33 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 18:16 GolemMadness wrote:
On December 29 2012 18:12 sharkie wrote:
Fantasy > Flash the entire year and they still call him god lol.

Flash hasn't been god since his OSL losses.


You get called god when you become the best Brood War player ever. You don't get called god when you become the become the first player to ever lose back to back finals twice.


Yes all that proves is that fantasy has a problem with nerves.
Skill-wise he is above Flash, has been the entire year in both BW and SC2


If you have a problem with nerves and that affects your play, then you are not as good as someone who doesn't have a problem with nerves and therefore performs better than you. That's just how competition goes.

Saying that Fantasy has been better than Flash all year in Starcraft 2 is just silly. Neither player has won anything yet. Both have done very well in Proleague this season. Neither is in code S at the moment. The fact that you dislike Flash doesn't mean that Fantasy is better.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 29 2012 09:48 GMT
#1172
On December 29 2012 18:24 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 18:21 vthree wrote:
On December 29 2012 18:13 GolemMadness wrote:
On December 29 2012 18:09 tuho12345 wrote:
Flash lost that game b/c of his fault. He sieged up at a weird position which didn't kill much, he could have gone for the factory and starport but he didn't. Low supply mech sucks and he moved out way too early. He could have won but he made too many mistakes tho.


His move out was fine. It was just unfortunate that he attacked just as Fantasy's army was moving around his.


Even if Fantasy didn't move out, what could Flash accomplish? Unless Fantasy had all his bio in front of his tanks to get BF to death, the most Flash could have done was a light contain. And Fantasy would have just dropped Flash to death/cut off reinforcements. Flash was only on 2 base and didn't have to eco to turret up his bases.


He could have taken on Fantasy's army in a straight up fight. At the very least, he could kill all of the depots walling off Fantasy's front. Fantasy's siege was still around a minute away, so it was the correct time to move out.


Don't think Fantasy's siege was that far off. Or Flash could have just pushed up to the main with his push.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 29 2012 09:53 GMT
#1173
On December 29 2012 18:48 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 18:24 GolemMadness wrote:
On December 29 2012 18:21 vthree wrote:
On December 29 2012 18:13 GolemMadness wrote:
On December 29 2012 18:09 tuho12345 wrote:
Flash lost that game b/c of his fault. He sieged up at a weird position which didn't kill much, he could have gone for the factory and starport but he didn't. Low supply mech sucks and he moved out way too early. He could have won but he made too many mistakes tho.


His move out was fine. It was just unfortunate that he attacked just as Fantasy's army was moving around his.


Even if Fantasy didn't move out, what could Flash accomplish? Unless Fantasy had all his bio in front of his tanks to get BF to death, the most Flash could have done was a light contain. And Fantasy would have just dropped Flash to death/cut off reinforcements. Flash was only on 2 base and didn't have to eco to turret up his bases.


He could have taken on Fantasy's army in a straight up fight. At the very least, he could kill all of the depots walling off Fantasy's front. Fantasy's siege was still around a minute away, so it was the correct time to move out.


Don't think Fantasy's siege was that far off. Or Flash could have just pushed up to the main with his push.


I was pretty close; ~40 seconds.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
December 29 2012 10:18 GMT
#1174
On December 29 2012 18:39 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 18:25 scrubtastic wrote:
On December 29 2012 18:16 GolemMadness wrote:
On December 29 2012 18:12 sharkie wrote:
Fantasy > Flash the entire year and they still call him god lol.

Flash hasn't been god since his OSL losses.


You get called god when you become the best Brood War player ever. You don't get called god when you become the become the first player to ever lose back to back finals twice.

You mean the finals that Flash failed to get to repeatedly since 2011?

(dude, "first player to lose back to back finals twice" is a hilariously bad insult, not only do you shit on the effort that he made to get there, it's also a really dumb thing to even bother tracking)


Repeatedly? You mean the only two Starleagues there were after he won his 3rd MSL, one of which was was right before he had his surgery?

It's not an insult. Obviously Fantasy was and is a very good player, but he clearly is not close to on par with Flash in terms of achievements. Sharkie just has some obsession with hating on Flash all the time, so I'm telling him why Flash is called god and Fantasy isn't.

So you bring up mitigating circumstances for Flash not even getting to the last two finals

yet neglect all of Fantasy's hard fucking work and his series wins, despite all his flaws and lack of completeness, to eventually become top 3 (arguably the best) player during the last year of BW and watched him not only do absurdly well in Proleague, but get all the way to the last two OSL finals

and then call him some derivative of silver surfer except using some incredibly obtuse "statistic" that emphasizes losing

how is that not an insult?

Also I don't think sharkie cares about Flash's past achievements or dominance in 2010, it seems like he's talking about the most recent performance which does matter
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 29 2012 10:19 GMT
#1175
On December 29 2012 17:29 NicksonReyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 03:30 Talin wrote:
Thanks for the FPL points KT, you had a good run, now it's time to learn where your place is. Or rather, be reminded.

On top.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Congrats. Enjoy while you can, it won't be long.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
December 29 2012 10:20 GMT
#1176
bizarro universe. kt wins 4-1 with the only loss coming from flash.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
speknek
Profile Joined February 2012
758 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 10:39:25
December 29 2012 10:38 GMT
#1177
lol everyone wins their game EXCEPT flash?
fantasy is my captain though so it's k :D
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
December 29 2012 10:43 GMT
#1178
On December 29 2012 19:19 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 17:29 NicksonReyes wrote:
On December 28 2012 03:30 Talin wrote:
Thanks for the FPL points KT, you had a good run, now it's time to learn where your place is. Or rather, be reminded.

On top.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Congrats. Enjoy while you can, it won't be long.


dem butthurt skt fans
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2349 Posts
December 29 2012 10:48 GMT
#1179
Fantasy - Flash's favorite bitch untill 2012.
Flash - Fantasy's favorite bitch since 2012.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 10:50:05
December 29 2012 10:49 GMT
#1180
I said congrats, how is that butthurt? I genuinely congratulated them, first rank in R1 is a big achievement for KT.

They were like 9th last season.
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