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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
December 23 2012 21:50 GMT
#301
timetraveler stephano.
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
December 23 2012 21:50 GMT
#302
--- Nuked ---
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
December 23 2012 21:51 GMT
#303
That looked stoppable and fair!
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
IronSquid
Profile Joined January 2012
France487 Posts
December 23 2012 21:51 GMT
#304
Poll: Recommend winners' match Game 2

Yes (19)
 
66%

No (10)
 
34%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

29 total votes

Your vote: Recommend winners' match Game 2

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend winners' match Game 3

No (8)
 
50%

Yes (4)
 
25%

If you have time (4)
 
25%

16 total votes

Your vote: Recommend winners' match Game 3

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 23 2012 21:51 GMT
#305
No festor?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
December 23 2012 21:51 GMT
#306
Winners' Match
(T)Mvp <Ohana> (Z)Stephano
(T)Mvp <Mvp Shipyard> (Z)Stephano
(T)Mvp <> (Z)Stephano

I love Mvp Shipyard
Refer to my post.
mccarthyaw
Profile Joined April 2012
50 Posts
December 23 2012 21:51 GMT
#307
Stephano is really making it a point that he does not need infestors to win games
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
December 23 2012 21:51 GMT
#308
Stephano took out Mvp, gogo Mana show that you can compete with the best
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 21:51:55
December 23 2012 21:51 GMT
#309
On December 24 2012 06:49 rasnj wrote:
At this point I think stephano is just trying to make a point with his refusal to produce infestors.

Which point would that be? That he is miles ahead of Mvp currently? Or that he doesn't even need infestors?
Snijjer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States989 Posts
December 23 2012 21:51 GMT
#310
Stephano is a boss.

No infestors, no broodlords, no problem.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
December 23 2012 21:51 GMT
#311
and not a single infestor was produced
Terran & Potato Salad.
Blackfish
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria309 Posts
December 23 2012 21:51 GMT
#312
Stephano trolling... I mean that game was one after 7 minutes rest is just some trolling never viable in a real game, you saw how the roach/hydra army melted there...
NaDa - my god | Mvp - my king | Innovation - my favorite | Terran- my race
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
December 23 2012 21:52 GMT
#313
On December 24 2012 06:51 mccarthyaw wrote:
Stephano is really making it a point that he does not need infestors to win games


He is not a patchzerg
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
December 23 2012 21:52 GMT
#314
No infestors/mutas/corruptors/brood lords

wowza
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
December 23 2012 21:52 GMT
#315
On December 24 2012 06:47 kollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 06:43 decado90 wrote:
On December 24 2012 06:39 Qwerty85 wrote:
On December 24 2012 06:37 decado90 wrote:
On December 24 2012 06:33 rasnj wrote:
On December 24 2012 06:30 littlebigs wrote:
I can't help but to see this as another zerg beating a terran. At least the usage of Hydra's makes it kinda cool.

You do realize how stupid that makes you right? Stephano plays a completely different style, and beats one of the best players in the world. He didn't abuse infestors or brood lords, so why would this be anything like what other zergs are doing?

I personally I'm not a big fan of how stephano presents himself and his mentality, but you can't help but admire his play at least. There is nothing ordinary about that.



Mvp is not "one of the best players in the world" anymore. He's fallen all the way down to 26th in tlpd and would be the underdog against quite a few foreign Zergs.


Afaik, he is the only terran that won gsl in 2012 and only terran who got to the finals of gsl in 2012.
This is a better indicator than being rated high on tlpd. He doesn't participate in that many tournaments as some other terrans like Taeja so even if he was in top form of 2011 he probably wouldn't be highest ranked terran.



Mvp actually still has the highest peak elo in SC2 history. Back when he was far and away the best player and the closest thing SC2 has had to a Bonjwa. He has falled quite far since his injury. He won a GSL, yea, but he looked ugly doing it.

If you actually watch his games you'll see his mechanics aren't up to par and his gameplay has suffered. He was dominated in the Blizzard Cup as well.


His group play has always been pretty meh, because his strength has been in preparing for games. That's why he's the only person (I think) to even get to 2 GSL finals this year, because that's where he is most comfortable playing.


And group play is far more indicative of skill than games prepared for. In group play you are forced into standard play, relying on mechanics and outplaying your opponents over the course of a long game.

You were impressed by MVP cheesing Naniwa 3 games in a row?
"Be formless like water"- Bruce Lee
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
December 23 2012 21:52 GMT
#316
That game also proved that roach hydra sucks hard once the terran is maxed out, Stephano lost something like 60 supply for 10 of MVP.
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
December 23 2012 21:52 GMT
#317
On December 24 2012 06:52 MCDayC wrote:
No infestors/mutas/corruptors/brood lords

wowza


just a roach ling attack that took down 20 some workers in the early game.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
December 23 2012 21:52 GMT
#318
On December 24 2012 06:51 Blackfish wrote:
Stephano trolling... I mean that game was one after 7 minutes rest is just some trolling never viable in a real game, you saw how the roach/hydra army melted there...

Did you not see how he demolished MKP in HSC6 just yesterday using roach hydra?
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 23 2012 21:52 GMT
#319
Well at least now we know all Zerg needs to do to win without infestors is rely on doing early game damage using the advantage of having unpunishable greed to guide the terrans hand into being greedy himself.
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
December 23 2012 21:53 GMT
#320
On December 24 2012 06:51 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 06:49 rasnj wrote:
At this point I think stephano is just trying to make a point with his refusal to produce infestors.

Which point would that be? That he is miles ahead of Mvp currently? Or that he doesn't even need infestors?


More like the fact that Zergs can still compete without Infestor/Brood Lord
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