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Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
December 23 2012 21:43 GMT
#281
This game shows another problem: GREED
1) Z can be greedy, and terrans can't punish it.
2) T can be greedy, and zergs can punish it.
NeutralDepot
Profile Joined December 2012
80 Posts
December 23 2012 21:43 GMT
#282
On December 24 2012 06:42 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 06:40 dangthatsright wrote:
What do hydras actually add to the composition against ground mech that more roaches wouldn't?
The way that looked, it feels like the same thing would have worked with straight roaches.
I guess you could deal with the banshee or something but I don't think the banshee was doing damage fast enough to make much of a difference anyways


Hydras don't take the Siege Tanks bonus damage against armored.

They die in 3 shots just like roaches.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
December 23 2012 21:43 GMT
#283
I guess Mvp is not dead because he has triple OC but... definitely not even.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
December 23 2012 21:44 GMT
#284
Where does Stephano ID come in fact ?
The legend of Darien lives on
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
December 23 2012 21:44 GMT
#285
On December 24 2012 06:43 NeutralDepot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 06:42 Salteador Neo wrote:
On December 24 2012 06:40 dangthatsright wrote:
What do hydras actually add to the composition against ground mech that more roaches wouldn't?
The way that looked, it feels like the same thing would have worked with straight roaches.
I guess you could deal with the banshee or something but I don't think the banshee was doing damage fast enough to make much of a difference anyways


Hydras don't take the Siege Tanks bonus damage against armored.

They die in 3 shots just like roaches.


Well they take less splash damage then
Revolutionist fan
decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
December 23 2012 21:45 GMT
#286
On December 24 2012 06:44 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 06:43 NeutralDepot wrote:
On December 24 2012 06:42 Salteador Neo wrote:
On December 24 2012 06:40 dangthatsright wrote:
What do hydras actually add to the composition against ground mech that more roaches wouldn't?
The way that looked, it feels like the same thing would have worked with straight roaches.
I guess you could deal with the banshee or something but I don't think the banshee was doing damage fast enough to make much of a difference anyways


Hydras don't take the Siege Tanks bonus damage against armored.

They die in 3 shots just like roaches.


Well they take less splash damage then



2 more range and much higher dps as well.
"Be formless like water"- Bruce Lee
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 23 2012 21:45 GMT
#287
On December 24 2012 06:44 mr_tolkien wrote:
Where does Stephano ID come in fact ?

Character Distephano from an Alien movie.
Taryssa
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1628 Posts
December 23 2012 21:46 GMT
#288
pretty late +1 mech
gwixter
Profile Joined January 2011
Slovakia336 Posts
December 23 2012 21:46 GMT
#289
On December 24 2012 06:44 mr_tolkien wrote:
Where does Stephano ID come in fact ?

http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0000881/
"If you can chill, chill" - Liquid`Tyler || <3 Kiira Korpi :D
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
December 23 2012 21:46 GMT
#290
Rofl, standard 15 minute ling speed.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
KingOfNoodles
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia379 Posts
December 23 2012 21:47 GMT
#291
Stephano getting ling speed at 15:25
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 23 2012 21:47 GMT
#292
On December 24 2012 06:43 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 06:39 Qwerty85 wrote:
On December 24 2012 06:37 decado90 wrote:
On December 24 2012 06:33 rasnj wrote:
On December 24 2012 06:30 littlebigs wrote:
I can't help but to see this as another zerg beating a terran. At least the usage of Hydra's makes it kinda cool.

You do realize how stupid that makes you right? Stephano plays a completely different style, and beats one of the best players in the world. He didn't abuse infestors or brood lords, so why would this be anything like what other zergs are doing?

I personally I'm not a big fan of how stephano presents himself and his mentality, but you can't help but admire his play at least. There is nothing ordinary about that.



Mvp is not "one of the best players in the world" anymore. He's fallen all the way down to 26th in tlpd and would be the underdog against quite a few foreign Zergs.


Afaik, he is the only terran that won gsl in 2012 and only terran who got to the finals of gsl in 2012.
This is a better indicator than being rated high on tlpd. He doesn't participate in that many tournaments as some other terrans like Taeja so even if he was in top form of 2011 he probably wouldn't be highest ranked terran.



Mvp actually still has the highest peak elo in SC2 history. Back when he was far and away the best player and the closest thing SC2 has had to a Bonjwa. He has falled quite far since his injury. He won a GSL, yea, but he looked ugly doing it.

If you actually watch his games you'll see his mechanics aren't up to par and his gameplay has suffered. He was dominated in the Blizzard Cup as well.


His group play has always been pretty meh, because his strength has been in preparing for games. That's why he's the only person (I think) to even get to 2 GSL finals this year, because that's where he is most comfortable playing.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
December 23 2012 21:48 GMT
#293
wowser didn't belief I would ever see hydra ultra again in a televised match. Well didn't used this combo for a while either. (Stole it from Stephano when he wasn't that popular)
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
December 23 2012 21:48 GMT
#294
I dont think I've ever seen 3-3 hydras in action o.O
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
December 23 2012 21:48 GMT
#295
you know i have a friend that started starcraft 2 recently, he told me that against terran he used hydra to counter some drop (it was almost 2 month ago), i laughed so hard at him, and now i see stephano doing this, lmao
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
December 23 2012 21:49 GMT
#296
Lol Mvp was spreading his bio.
Taryssa
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1628 Posts
December 23 2012 21:49 GMT
#297
9 ultras inc
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 23 2012 21:49 GMT
#298
Haha, Khaldor, "Oh mann", accidental German.
dangthatsright
Profile Joined July 2011
1160 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 21:50:27
December 23 2012 21:49 GMT
#299
On December 24 2012 06:42 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 06:40 dangthatsright wrote:
What do hydras actually add to the composition against ground mech that more roaches wouldn't?
The way that looked, it feels like the same thing would have worked with straight roaches.
I guess you could deal with the banshee or something but I don't think the banshee was doing damage fast enough to make much of a difference anyways


Hydras don't take the Siege Tanks bonus damage against armored.


It seems to still be 3 shots to kill either way, so in terms of defensive stuff, I'm not seeing it.
Maybe the range/dps difference would be more clear in a game where the meching player is set up differently, cause mvp might have just died to a lot of things at that time.
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
December 23 2012 21:49 GMT
#300
At this point I think stephano is just trying to make a point with his refusal to produce infestors.
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