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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
December 23 2012 21:56 GMT
#341
On December 24 2012 06:55 Avicularia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 06:53 decado90 wrote:
On December 24 2012 06:50 Scrubwave wrote:
Ultras in hots are going to be fun.



In Hots, Ultras 2 shot marines, Hydras are as fast off creep as stimmed bio, vipers pull your tanks, swarm host locusts last 25 seconds and have higher dps than a stimmed marine, and fungal is better than it is in Wings.




Terran gets......

Gets really strong medivacs, that together with marauders will just crush all roaches, and that's the main part of the army.


You only need a fusion core to start researching it.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
December 23 2012 21:56 GMT
#342
On December 24 2012 06:53 Insoleet wrote:
I think it's time to up this image again...

[image loading]


amazing, even with the american flag :D is it from assassin's creed 3 ?
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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KingOfNoodles
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia379 Posts
December 23 2012 21:57 GMT
#343
I think this style requires you to be very aggressive during certain phases of the game. The problem with roach hydra is that there isn't much micro you can do with it. Stephano must choose his fights wisely because roach/hydra can be out-microed more easier than ling/bling. Notice Stephano only engaged when it was a fight in which Mvp felt like he needed to win, and running past marines to focus tanks is just very good play in which he understands the weakness of the composition and trying to make as cost efficient trade as possible.
BronzeBas
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands76 Posts
December 23 2012 21:57 GMT
#344
On December 24 2012 06:53 Insoleet wrote:
I think it's time to up this image again...
Show nested quote +

[image loading]


Holy shitballs! Never seen that one before. Beautiful!
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
December 23 2012 21:57 GMT
#345
On December 24 2012 06:53 Insoleet wrote:
I think it's time to up this image again...

[image loading]



Hope the picture without (and with - in brackets) words get in the fanclub
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 23 2012 21:57 GMT
#346
On December 24 2012 06:52 decado90 wrote:
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On December 24 2012 06:47 kollin wrote:
On December 24 2012 06:43 decado90 wrote:
On December 24 2012 06:39 Qwerty85 wrote:
On December 24 2012 06:37 decado90 wrote:
On December 24 2012 06:33 rasnj wrote:
On December 24 2012 06:30 littlebigs wrote:
I can't help but to see this as another zerg beating a terran. At least the usage of Hydra's makes it kinda cool.

You do realize how stupid that makes you right? Stephano plays a completely different style, and beats one of the best players in the world. He didn't abuse infestors or brood lords, so why would this be anything like what other zergs are doing?

I personally I'm not a big fan of how stephano presents himself and his mentality, but you can't help but admire his play at least. There is nothing ordinary about that.



Mvp is not "one of the best players in the world" anymore. He's fallen all the way down to 26th in tlpd and would be the underdog against quite a few foreign Zergs.


Afaik, he is the only terran that won gsl in 2012 and only terran who got to the finals of gsl in 2012.
This is a better indicator than being rated high on tlpd. He doesn't participate in that many tournaments as some other terrans like Taeja so even if he was in top form of 2011 he probably wouldn't be highest ranked terran.



Mvp actually still has the highest peak elo in SC2 history. Back when he was far and away the best player and the closest thing SC2 has had to a Bonjwa. He has falled quite far since his injury. He won a GSL, yea, but he looked ugly doing it.

If you actually watch his games you'll see his mechanics aren't up to par and his gameplay has suffered. He was dominated in the Blizzard Cup as well.


His group play has always been pretty meh, because his strength has been in preparing for games. That's why he's the only person (I think) to even get to 2 GSL finals this year, because that's where he is most comfortable playing.


And group play is far more indicative of skill than games prepared for. In group play you are forced into standard play, relying on mechanics and outplaying your opponents over the course of a long game.

You were impressed by MVP cheesing Naniwa 3 games in a row?


No group play isn't more indicative of skill. Look at Proleague, it is the single most important league in Starcraft, and considered the one it takes the most skill to do well in. And that's because you prepare for your opponent. Where do you think most of the builds in BW came from? Mostly games where someone prepared against a certain person on a certain map.
jira03
Profile Joined December 2012
France1 Post
December 23 2012 21:57 GMT
#347
stephano's picture with an american flag -_-
Mother of god, go with a french flag
Picklebread
Profile Joined June 2011
808 Posts
December 23 2012 21:57 GMT
#348
ROFL MANA
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
December 23 2012 21:58 GMT
#349
On December 24 2012 06:49 rasnj wrote:
At this point I think stephano is just trying to make a point with his refusal to produce infestors.


The matchup turned upside down in early-mid game since the queen buff. It is very hard to do early pressure to zerg without going all in. The only alternative is to play greedy. Zerg can either macro like crazy (which again favors zerg as the best macro race) or kill decent amount of workers with a roach push like in game 2 because other than helions terran really has no way to control the map and helions are bad vs roaches.

That attack from Stephano is guaranteed damage to terran and terran really can't recover after that. Only situation where that game would end well for Mvp is if Stephano never made those roaches and attacked. But since he is solid zerg he knows what are current terran options and he knows he can do guaranteed damage without being all in - similar how in earlier stages of WoL terran could do guaranteed damage to zerg without being all in.

Only difference is that zerg always had late game advantage (except the turtle+ghost era) while now, terran is at a disadvantage both in the beginning but also late game stage.

Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 23 2012 21:58 GMT
#350
Full of mana!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
December 23 2012 21:58 GMT
#351
On December 24 2012 06:57 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 06:53 Insoleet wrote:
I think it's time to up this image again...

[image loading]



Hope the picture without (and with - in brackets) words get in the fanclub

It was already posted into the fan club during HSC.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
December 23 2012 21:58 GMT
#352
"germans are not supposed to be funny"

rofl so true :D
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partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
December 23 2012 21:58 GMT
#353
YAY STEPHANO
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gwixter
Profile Joined January 2011
Slovakia336 Posts
December 23 2012 21:58 GMT
#354
On December 24 2012 06:56 StarVe wrote:
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On December 24 2012 06:56 gwixter wrote:
On December 24 2012 06:54 StarVe wrote:
Stephano smashed MVP/MMA/MKP in a single week. If you had told me this last year, I'd probably have called you delusional.

games against MVP are probably older than week, but I'm not sure

Just looked it up after the games, played on the 19th.

during HSC? kind of doubt that
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neozxa
Profile Joined August 2011
Indonesia545 Posts
December 23 2012 21:59 GMT
#355
MVP should be in a hospital right now, or at least staying at home to recover. Instead he's coping with the pain to play for us

Get well soon MVP.
Keep moving forward
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4414 Posts
December 23 2012 21:59 GMT
#356
Disappointing. Just another Terran losing. Sting winning IEM singapore really was a miracle. I almost wish he didn't so that I could say Terran hasn't won a big tournament in 4 months but oh well anyone who's not biased knows they are the worst race right now.

User was temp banned for this post.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45001 Posts
December 23 2012 21:59 GMT
#357
Mana with the worst execution of play-on words ever Hopefully he plays better than he jokes ♥
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
NeutralDepot
Profile Joined December 2012
80 Posts
December 23 2012 21:59 GMT
#358
On December 24 2012 06:55 movac wrote:
my god! do wolf and khaldor ever stop casting? it seems like almost everything get's casted by them LOL. it's like they never run out of energy.

Hm and it's not like casting is any hard to do. It's a job which requires zero preparation and training actually. So why wouldn't they work. Compare that to people who work 10 hours a day in a job or players who actually have to practice to play the games the casters cast.
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
December 23 2012 21:59 GMT
#359
On December 24 2012 06:59 JJH777 wrote:
Disappointing. Just another Terran losing. Sting winning IEM singapore really was a miracle. I almost wish he didn't so that I could say Terran hasn't won a big tournament in 4 months but oh well anyone who's not biased knows they are the worst race right now.

Oh god please just shut up
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 23 2012 22:00 GMT
#360
On December 24 2012 06:59 NeutralDepot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 06:55 movac wrote:
my god! do wolf and khaldor ever stop casting? it seems like almost everything get's casted by them LOL. it's like they never run out of energy.

Hm and it's not like casting is any hard to do. It's a job which requires zero preparation and training actually. So why wouldn't they work. Compare that to people who work 10 hours a day in a job or players who actually have to practice to play the games the casters cast.

I seriously hope to god that you are trolling, or 12.
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