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glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
December 23 2012 06:25 GMT
#2081
On December 23 2012 15:24 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:23 glzElectromaster wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.


Yeah. Look at Machine. What has he done the past year and a half? But I'm fine. He's still a cool guy to have around.


Hey man. Bryce still has the best commercial I've seen thus far. I call him the king of the commercials.


Exactly. Good personality, worth the pay I'd say.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 23 2012 06:26 GMT
#2082
On December 23 2012 15:24 Bagration wrote:
Hindsight is 20/20. Remember that now.


Indeed. Like I said earlier guys, this happens all the time in PL when it comes to the draws and ace match. This won't be the last time you question the decisions.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
December 23 2012 06:26 GMT
#2083
On December 23 2012 15:24 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.


Of course they wouldn't. Just like the Maple Leafs.

Haha Stupid Leafs will always sucks

Lock out is kind of good for leafs fan.. no disappointment this season xD
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
December 23 2012 06:26 GMT
#2084
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.


Pretty much. Don't get me wrong here, Jaedong IS an amazing player, but his signing was still much more about the name and less about his prospective future in SC2. That's why he's being forced to stream random ladder matches instead of practicing, like he'd prefer.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
December 23 2012 06:26 GMT
#2085
I wanna read sHy's interview regarding his game vs Puma haha, I think Seeker is temp banned though so maybe won't be for a few days. Maybe wozzot or storyreader will though :D
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
December 23 2012 06:26 GMT
#2086
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.

Exactly.
EG isnt buying wins when it signs up new players or sets up things like a pro-league team. They are buying eyeballs and they do a hell of a job, even if most of their fans end up caught in a battered-wife syndrome with the team, "but they just need stephano and then they will definitely finally win something"
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
December 23 2012 06:27 GMT
#2087
On December 23 2012 15:26 andaylin wrote:
I wanna read sHy's interview regarding his game vs Puma haha, I think Seeker is temp banned though so maybe won't be for a few days. Maybe wozzot or storyreader will though :D

Lol what did Seeker do to get temp banned?
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
December 23 2012 06:27 GMT
#2088
I didn't see JYP scout the blink build. What exactly did he see? If there was a twilight council cancel, I'd think players would be more aware of building cancel tactics and that he could adjust a little better. Puma and JYP seem to be lacking patience and trying stuff that is theoretically good but not right for the situation. High ground zealots were a nice idea, but those could have done more beating down immortal shields.

On a side note, it's getting really hard not to use adblock when I hear that same boppy Mini commercial every minute.
URLateral
Profile Joined October 2012
275 Posts
December 23 2012 06:27 GMT
#2089
Stick to Liquid aces lol
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 23 2012 06:27 GMT
#2090
On December 23 2012 15:24 jworld wrote:
Is the Ace player chosen when the line-ups are submitted or when it comes to it?


Team submit their players to the referees when the score goes 3-3. However, most teams already have Ace player preparing for the map and possible opponents before hand.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 23 2012 06:28 GMT
#2091
On December 23 2012 15:26 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:24 StarStruck wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.


Of course they wouldn't. Just like the Maple Leafs.

Haha Stupid Leafs will always sucks

Lock out is kind of good for leafs fan.. no disappointment this season xD


Hopefully the NHLPA do dissolve and we get rid of the salary cap so more teams fold and we can overpay more guys just to make the first round of the playoffs again like old times. BD
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
December 23 2012 06:28 GMT
#2092
On December 23 2012 15:27 Ansinjunger wrote:
I didn't see JYP scout the blink build. What exactly did he see? If there was a twilight council cancel, I'd think players would be more aware of building cancel tactics and that he could adjust a little better. Puma and JYP seem to be lacking patience and trying stuff that is theoretically good but not right for the situation. High ground zealots were a nice idea, but those could have done more beating down immortal shields.

On a side note, it's getting really hard not to use adblock when I hear that same boppy Mini commercial every minute.


The TC was cancelled at about 75% (or greater) completion.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 23 2012 06:28 GMT
#2093
On December 23 2012 15:23 glzElectromaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.


Yeah. Look at Machine. What has he done the past year and a half? But I'm fine. He's still a cool guy to have around.

You have a point, but lets not just single out Machine. You can say the same about TL's NoNy, or even Sheth for the past 9 months. Every team has underperforming players. EG is not unique in that regard.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
December 23 2012 06:28 GMT
#2094
On December 23 2012 15:27 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:26 andaylin wrote:
I wanna read sHy's interview regarding his game vs Puma haha, I think Seeker is temp banned though so maybe won't be for a few days. Maybe wozzot or storyreader will though :D

Lol what did Seeker do to get temp banned?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696&currentpage=1483#29649

yeah I was surprised too haha.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5810 Posts
December 23 2012 06:29 GMT
#2095
On December 23 2012 15:26 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.


Pretty much. Don't get me wrong here, Jaedong IS an amazing player, but his signing was still much more about the name and less about his prospective future in SC2. That's why he's being forced to stream random ladder matches instead of practicing, like he'd prefer.

"Forced" lol. It's his employer. He's not taking up all his time streaming like Sea did in a way that would interfere with his real, confidential, practice. He streamed a little bit. He probably also goes to fan meetings and the gym. Does that mean he's being forced to sign autographs and lift weights instead of practicing, like he'd prefer? You're just putting words in his mouth.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 23 2012 06:29 GMT
#2096
On December 23 2012 15:26 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.

Exactly.
EG isnt buying wins when it signs up new players or sets up things like a pro-league team. They are buying eyeballs and they do a hell of a job, even if most of their fans end up caught in a battered-wife syndrome with the team, "but they just need stephano and then they will definitely finally win something"


They also try to buy players right as they've peaked.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
December 23 2012 06:30 GMT
#2097
On December 23 2012 15:28 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:26 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:24 StarStruck wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.


Of course they wouldn't. Just like the Maple Leafs.

Haha Stupid Leafs will always sucks

Lock out is kind of good for leafs fan.. no disappointment this season xD


Hopefully the NHLPA do dissolve and we get rid of the salary cap so more teams fold and we can overpay more guys just to make the first round of the playoffs again like old times. BD

Bahahahaha Though I can't laugh too hard at the Leafs... not like my team Montreal is doing any better -.-
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
His_fas
Profile Joined December 2012
20 Posts
December 23 2012 06:30 GMT
#2098
Yes people ... EG-TL is paying that Coach to make These decisions...

Man i'm in the wrong business.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
December 23 2012 06:30 GMT
#2099
On December 23 2012 15:29 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:26 Sub40APM wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.

Exactly.
EG isnt buying wins when it signs up new players or sets up things like a pro-league team. They are buying eyeballs and they do a hell of a job, even if most of their fans end up caught in a battered-wife syndrome with the team, "but they just need stephano and then they will definitely finally win something"


They also try to buy players right as they've peaked.


Which is the time that they're the most marketable.

As a business, EG is doing pretty well, regardless of how they're doing as a SC2 team.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 23 2012 06:31 GMT
#2100
On December 23 2012 15:30 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:28 StarStruck wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:26 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:24 StarStruck wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.


Of course they wouldn't. Just like the Maple Leafs.

Haha Stupid Leafs will always sucks

Lock out is kind of good for leafs fan.. no disappointment this season xD


Hopefully the NHLPA do dissolve and we get rid of the salary cap so more teams fold and we can overpay more guys just to make the first round of the playoffs again like old times. BD

Bahahahaha Though I can't laugh too hard at the Leafs... not like my team Montreal is doing any better -.-


Hey the Habs and Leafs would both benefit with no salary cap.
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