• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:57
CEST 12:57
KST 19:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy17ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool51Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash Gypsy to Korea How Can I Add Timer & APM Count?
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group E [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F Azhi's Colosseum - Foreign KCM
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
China Uses Video Games to Sh…
TrAiDoS
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 15929 users

[SPL] EG-TL vs Woongjin Stars R1 - Page 105

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 103 104 105 106 107 113 Next
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
December 23 2012 06:25 GMT
#2081
On December 23 2012 15:24 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:23 glzElectromaster wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.


Yeah. Look at Machine. What has he done the past year and a half? But I'm fine. He's still a cool guy to have around.


Hey man. Bryce still has the best commercial I've seen thus far. I call him the king of the commercials.


Exactly. Good personality, worth the pay I'd say.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 23 2012 06:26 GMT
#2082
On December 23 2012 15:24 Bagration wrote:
Hindsight is 20/20. Remember that now.


Indeed. Like I said earlier guys, this happens all the time in PL when it comes to the draws and ace match. This won't be the last time you question the decisions.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
December 23 2012 06:26 GMT
#2083
On December 23 2012 15:24 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.


Of course they wouldn't. Just like the Maple Leafs.

Haha Stupid Leafs will always sucks

Lock out is kind of good for leafs fan.. no disappointment this season xD
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
December 23 2012 06:26 GMT
#2084
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.


Pretty much. Don't get me wrong here, Jaedong IS an amazing player, but his signing was still much more about the name and less about his prospective future in SC2. That's why he's being forced to stream random ladder matches instead of practicing, like he'd prefer.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
December 23 2012 06:26 GMT
#2085
I wanna read sHy's interview regarding his game vs Puma haha, I think Seeker is temp banned though so maybe won't be for a few days. Maybe wozzot or storyreader will though :D
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
December 23 2012 06:26 GMT
#2086
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.

Exactly.
EG isnt buying wins when it signs up new players or sets up things like a pro-league team. They are buying eyeballs and they do a hell of a job, even if most of their fans end up caught in a battered-wife syndrome with the team, "but they just need stephano and then they will definitely finally win something"
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
December 23 2012 06:27 GMT
#2087
On December 23 2012 15:26 andaylin wrote:
I wanna read sHy's interview regarding his game vs Puma haha, I think Seeker is temp banned though so maybe won't be for a few days. Maybe wozzot or storyreader will though :D

Lol what did Seeker do to get temp banned?
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
December 23 2012 06:27 GMT
#2088
I didn't see JYP scout the blink build. What exactly did he see? If there was a twilight council cancel, I'd think players would be more aware of building cancel tactics and that he could adjust a little better. Puma and JYP seem to be lacking patience and trying stuff that is theoretically good but not right for the situation. High ground zealots were a nice idea, but those could have done more beating down immortal shields.

On a side note, it's getting really hard not to use adblock when I hear that same boppy Mini commercial every minute.
URLateral
Profile Joined October 2012
275 Posts
December 23 2012 06:27 GMT
#2089
Stick to Liquid aces lol
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 23 2012 06:27 GMT
#2090
On December 23 2012 15:24 jworld wrote:
Is the Ace player chosen when the line-ups are submitted or when it comes to it?


Team submit their players to the referees when the score goes 3-3. However, most teams already have Ace player preparing for the map and possible opponents before hand.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 23 2012 06:28 GMT
#2091
On December 23 2012 15:26 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:24 StarStruck wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.


Of course they wouldn't. Just like the Maple Leafs.

Haha Stupid Leafs will always sucks

Lock out is kind of good for leafs fan.. no disappointment this season xD


Hopefully the NHLPA do dissolve and we get rid of the salary cap so more teams fold and we can overpay more guys just to make the first round of the playoffs again like old times. BD
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
December 23 2012 06:28 GMT
#2092
On December 23 2012 15:27 Ansinjunger wrote:
I didn't see JYP scout the blink build. What exactly did he see? If there was a twilight council cancel, I'd think players would be more aware of building cancel tactics and that he could adjust a little better. Puma and JYP seem to be lacking patience and trying stuff that is theoretically good but not right for the situation. High ground zealots were a nice idea, but those could have done more beating down immortal shields.

On a side note, it's getting really hard not to use adblock when I hear that same boppy Mini commercial every minute.


The TC was cancelled at about 75% (or greater) completion.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 23 2012 06:28 GMT
#2093
On December 23 2012 15:23 glzElectromaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.


Yeah. Look at Machine. What has he done the past year and a half? But I'm fine. He's still a cool guy to have around.

You have a point, but lets not just single out Machine. You can say the same about TL's NoNy, or even Sheth for the past 9 months. Every team has underperforming players. EG is not unique in that regard.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
December 23 2012 06:28 GMT
#2094
On December 23 2012 15:27 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:26 andaylin wrote:
I wanna read sHy's interview regarding his game vs Puma haha, I think Seeker is temp banned though so maybe won't be for a few days. Maybe wozzot or storyreader will though :D

Lol what did Seeker do to get temp banned?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=32696&currentpage=1483#29649

yeah I was surprised too haha.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6008 Posts
December 23 2012 06:29 GMT
#2095
On December 23 2012 15:26 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.


Pretty much. Don't get me wrong here, Jaedong IS an amazing player, but his signing was still much more about the name and less about his prospective future in SC2. That's why he's being forced to stream random ladder matches instead of practicing, like he'd prefer.

"Forced" lol. It's his employer. He's not taking up all his time streaming like Sea did in a way that would interfere with his real, confidential, practice. He streamed a little bit. He probably also goes to fan meetings and the gym. Does that mean he's being forced to sign autographs and lift weights instead of practicing, like he'd prefer? You're just putting words in his mouth.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 23 2012 06:29 GMT
#2096
On December 23 2012 15:26 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.

Exactly.
EG isnt buying wins when it signs up new players or sets up things like a pro-league team. They are buying eyeballs and they do a hell of a job, even if most of their fans end up caught in a battered-wife syndrome with the team, "but they just need stephano and then they will definitely finally win something"


They also try to buy players right as they've peaked.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
December 23 2012 06:30 GMT
#2097
On December 23 2012 15:28 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:26 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:24 StarStruck wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.


Of course they wouldn't. Just like the Maple Leafs.

Haha Stupid Leafs will always sucks

Lock out is kind of good for leafs fan.. no disappointment this season xD


Hopefully the NHLPA do dissolve and we get rid of the salary cap so more teams fold and we can overpay more guys just to make the first round of the playoffs again like old times. BD

Bahahahaha Though I can't laugh too hard at the Leafs... not like my team Montreal is doing any better -.-
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
His_fas
Profile Joined December 2012
20 Posts
December 23 2012 06:30 GMT
#2098
Yes people ... EG-TL is paying that Coach to make These decisions...

Man i'm in the wrong business.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
December 23 2012 06:30 GMT
#2099
On December 23 2012 15:29 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:26 Sub40APM wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.

Exactly.
EG isnt buying wins when it signs up new players or sets up things like a pro-league team. They are buying eyeballs and they do a hell of a job, even if most of their fans end up caught in a battered-wife syndrome with the team, "but they just need stephano and then they will definitely finally win something"


They also try to buy players right as they've peaked.


Which is the time that they're the most marketable.

As a business, EG is doing pretty well, regardless of how they're doing as a SC2 team.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 23 2012 06:31 GMT
#2100
On December 23 2012 15:30 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:28 StarStruck wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:26 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:24 StarStruck wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.


Of course they wouldn't. Just like the Maple Leafs.

Haha Stupid Leafs will always sucks

Lock out is kind of good for leafs fan.. no disappointment this season xD


Hopefully the NHLPA do dissolve and we get rid of the salary cap so more teams fold and we can overpay more guys just to make the first round of the playoffs again like old times. BD

Bahahahaha Though I can't laugh too hard at the Leafs... not like my team Montreal is doing any better -.-


Hey the Habs and Leafs would both benefit with no salary cap.
Prev 1 103 104 105 106 107 113 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RSL Revival
07:00
Season 4: Playoffs Day 7
MaxPax vs RogueLIVE!
Tasteless1923
ComeBackTV 657
CranKy Ducklings135
Rex125
3DClanTV 85
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Tasteless 1923
LamboSC2 167
ProTech133
Rex 125
MindelVK 37
Codebar 16
StarCraft: Brood War
Larva 485
Mini 335
Soulkey 279
hero 180
Pusan 162
Last 157
Hyun 140
sorry 112
Dewaltoss 112
Light 107
[ Show more ]
Shinee 87
Hm[arnc] 77
sSak 45
Free 42
Sharp 41
zelot 29
Sacsri 22
Movie 17
HiyA 17
ggaemo 13
Shine 4
Dota 2
XaKoH 1011
canceldota115
Counter-Strike
byalli108
edward79
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor166
Other Games
singsing2084
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL11779
Other Games
BasetradeTV235
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 20
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1685
• Stunt656
Upcoming Events
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3h 3m
BSL
8h 3m
Afreeca Starleague
23h 3m
Wardi Open
23h 3m
Replay Cast
1d 13h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 23h
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W1
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.