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proofy
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada283 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 06:22:37
December 23 2012 06:22 GMT
#2061
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
December 23 2012 06:22 GMT
#2062
On December 23 2012 15:19 anrimayu wrote:
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On December 23 2012 15:16 BoZiffer wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:14 Footler wrote:
TL needs to bring over TLO, he is in good form lately and might perform a bit better than certain other players we have been seeing. Hell, even Sheth might be worth the risk, he's been known to surprise every once in a while.


...what? Good lord, you cannot be serious.


TLO improved a lot recently, so he's a much better choice than the current players. Sheth is going through some stuff, so he's out though.


Thorzain and huk look like they don't know wtf they're doing out there in Proleague. Much as the community loves TLO for some reason, he is not on the level of those two players at all. Having him play in one of these matches would be a joke, even if your post wasn't/.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
December 23 2012 06:22 GMT
#2063
On December 23 2012 15:21 andaylin wrote:
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On December 23 2012 15:21 Stanlot wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:20 oBlade wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:18 whirlpool wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:14 oBlade wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:12 whirlpool wrote:
lol i think EG-TL expected JD ace match, thats why they sent JYP , zerg killer lol

If you believe that EG-TL was expecting JYP to beat Jaedong in an ace match, then I seriously question either you or EG-TL's ability to understand Starcraft.


why ? JYP known for his vZ and JD fucking awful vs protoss, he still cant handle immortal sentry allin.

They're on the same team.

I was hoping someone would bring this up. The whole time I was reading this exchange, I was WTF-ing pretty hard.

Yeah I was confused too and decided not to hahaha

i assumed someone just typo'd and neither realised it

oh well, had a good laugh, needed it after the end of that series >_<
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glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
December 23 2012 06:22 GMT
#2064
On December 23 2012 15:21 mordk wrote:
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On December 23 2012 15:17 Adersick wrote:
Ack, so close. JYP can play damn well, he just needs to adjust to the tournament setting, focus on keeping a clear mind to ensure that his early attacks are clean and efficient. Good showing by EG-Liquid, Proleague is far from over, so I have high hopes! EG-TL fighting!

JYP has had bad performances for the longest time.. I can hardly remember the last time he played a really good game against a good opponent. I get that coach would want to field him to give him experience, but right now he's pretty much a rookie. You don't send rookies as ACE unless you got something very special going on. Just by experience, even with that terrible map and with how he's performing vs P, even JD would have been a better choice.

Personally, I would have chosen HerO, he looked extremely confident, and that plays a huge part on PL matches, particularly on ACE matches.


He looked in good shape GSL Season 4 this year. He only lost in Code A because ma boy Maru played an excellent PvT against an improved JYPvT.

But since then, only zergs + PartinG have looked good. Maybe Bogus too.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
December 23 2012 06:22 GMT
#2065
On December 23 2012 15:19 anrimayu wrote:
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On December 23 2012 15:16 BoZiffer wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:14 Footler wrote:
TL needs to bring over TLO, he is in good form lately and might perform a bit better than certain other players we have been seeing. Hell, even Sheth might be worth the risk, he's been known to surprise every once in a while.


...what? Good lord, you cannot be serious.


TLO improved a lot recently, so he's a much better choice than the current players. Sheth is going through some stuff, so he's out though.

you keep saying foreigners like TLO keep improving but tbh it's all about the result. Yeah may be he did well in R8 in HSC. But I'm sure he'll choke or lose in high level matches...
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
December 23 2012 06:23 GMT
#2066
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
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On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.

And what marketing value do JYP and PuMa have?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 23 2012 06:23 GMT
#2067
On December 23 2012 15:16 BoZiffer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:14 Footler wrote:
TL needs to bring over TLO, he is in good form lately and might perform a bit better than certain other players we have been seeing. Hell, even Sheth might be worth the risk, he's been known to surprise every once in a while.


...what? Good lord, you cannot be serious.


I don't place HSC really high on my list. I do enjoy watching it though but TLO has been playing a wee bit better of late but I don't think he'd be as much help either. It would be nice to see him on the bench though
T.O.P
Profile Joined December 2012
469 Posts
December 23 2012 06:23 GMT
#2068
eg-tl so overrated! just saying. I like them but i will always cheer for the underdogs Stars are the underdog because they didnt play sc2 for about 2-3 years. Well i will always cheer for eg-tl team. hehe gg!
I'm not the real T.O.P just a fan!
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 23 2012 06:23 GMT
#2069
On December 23 2012 15:21 Slardar wrote:
Most matches went as I predicted, minus the ace. Would have never guessed JYP being sent out when you have TaeJa, JD, HerO present. Also Shy was an odd choice as well, no SoulKey? O_O!


I think they might have expected JD, Taeja. And shy is pretty solid in all 3 match ups.
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
December 23 2012 06:23 GMT
#2070
I know in BW some players were said to have gotten sent out in the ace match so they could redeem themselves/get revenge for a previous loss. But, seeing JYP's reaction, I don't see how it's worth it. Especially not worth the risk of devastating a player when you have good options if not better options to send. A player that goes 0-1 has a lot harder of a time putting the loss on himself than a player that went 0-2. I think only S class players should be put in that spot.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 23 2012 06:23 GMT
#2071
On December 23 2012 15:22 Jtom wrote:
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On December 23 2012 15:19 Exarl25 wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:16 Jtom wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:11 soulist wrote:
I'm not sure how you guys are blaming JYP for this. He clearly did the right move for what he scouted. He just got mind-gamed. He played what he saw. Fuck off you stupid shits.

I like JYP, but 1 base colossus against blink stalker is not a good idea.


What he did would have made 0 sense against blink stalker. He knew there was no blink. That kind of push is actually pretty strong against a FE and works a lot of the time. His micro was subpar with his Zealots stuck behind an Immortal that got focused down instantly. With better control and not wasting that warp in on the Zealots on the high ground he could have possibly won that.

When did he scout the twilight cancel? I'm pretty sure his robo bay was almost done before any observers were in Shy's base.

he realised when blink stalkers didn't hit him at the normal timing
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glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
December 23 2012 06:23 GMT
#2072
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
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On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.


Yeah. Look at Machine. What has he done the past year and a half? But I'm fine. He's still a cool guy to have around.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
jworld
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia41 Posts
December 23 2012 06:24 GMT
#2073
Is the Ace player chosen when the line-ups are submitted or when it comes to it?
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
December 23 2012 06:24 GMT
#2074
On December 23 2012 15:14 Footler wrote:
TL needs to bring over TLO, he is in good form lately and might perform a bit better than certain other players we have been seeing. Hell, even Sheth might be worth the risk, he's been known to surprise every once in a while.


Thanks for the laugh.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 23 2012 06:24 GMT
#2075
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.


Of course they wouldn't. Just like the Maple Leafs.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 23 2012 06:24 GMT
#2076
Hindsight is 20/20. Remember that now.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 23 2012 06:24 GMT
#2077
On December 23 2012 15:23 glzElectromaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.


Yeah. Look at Machine. What has he done the past year and a half? But I'm fine. He's still a cool guy to have around.


Hey man. Bryce still has the best commercial I've seen thus far. I call him the king of the commercials.
Footler
Profile Joined January 2010
United States560 Posts
December 23 2012 06:25 GMT
#2078
On December 23 2012 15:16 BoZiffer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:14 Footler wrote:
TL needs to bring over TLO, he is in good form lately and might perform a bit better than certain other players we have been seeing. Hell, even Sheth might be worth the risk, he's been known to surprise every once in a while.


...what? Good lord, you cannot be serious.


Ok maybe Sheth was a bit of a stretch to suggest but yes TLO is very plausible imo. TLO is very creative and could be fielded on one of these stranger maps and in current form is at least as competent if not more so than Zenio, JYP, Puma, Thorzain and Huk whom have all been fielded at some point so far.
I am The-Sink! Parting bandwagoner before it became a soul train.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
December 23 2012 06:25 GMT
#2079
On December 23 2012 15:21 Slardar wrote:
Most matches went as I predicted, minus the ace. Would have never guessed JYP being sent out when you have TaeJa, JD, HerO present. Also Shy was an odd choice as well, no SoulKey? O_O!


The weakest matchup for the stronger of those three players (taeja and JD) is by FAR protoss.

Couple that with the fact that soulkey is obviously the strongest player on woongjin, so EG-TL is prepared for and expecting him, and all of a sudden sOo seems like a great choice.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
December 23 2012 06:25 GMT
#2080
On December 23 2012 15:23 glzElectromaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:22 proofy wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:17 UnKooL wrote:
Alex Garfield better throw down the real talk with JYP and Puma, they have not improved in the past year.

Sponsors have never pressured EG for underperforming players, said so by Alex Garfield himself in an interview recently. It's about marketing, not in-game performance.


Yeah. Look at Machine. What has he done the past year and a half? But I'm fine. He's still a cool guy to have around.

He has done his job: being an marketing employee.
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